Non-compete has nothing to do with your period of notice. A notice period prevents you from being sacked (or leaving) on the spot.
Ruben Amorim | United meet Sporting release clause
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) are here to give their reaction just hours after the news has broke. Where did it all go wrong for ETH? What's next for United? and what were the highlights?
They also react to United's loss away at West Ham, including a breakdown of that ridiculous VAR decision.
He'll get a lot of time from the management guys at United because he's their first appointment. Also from a financial standpoint a big deal has been made about how we had to be careful with Ten Hag due to being close to PSR regulations so we probably couldn't afford to sack him until 18 months / 2 years in anyway.
Given the shambles so far this season he's basically got a free pass until next season and given there is still 3/4s of this season to go he'll have a much better idea of what he needs by the summer transfer window.
Also the fans will always give the manager time, the match going fans never turned on ETH despite being responsible for our 2 worst ever PL starts and our terrible record in Europe.
The only ones that might not give him time are the players and they are the only ones you didn't mention
I think you're misinformed. RA had a lot to say about the transfers, if he didn't want a player the player didn't come, if he wanted player X then it was player X until he said that it's time to move on for player Y. RA and Hugo Viana were 2 hands on one stomach. Hugo Viana understood that it wasn't a good thing to get a player that the coach doesn't want. At my other club I saw last year what it is if your technical director and the coach don't have the same view on players.
In one of his recent press conferences he said, that he had stability at Sporting and that he was heared for every decision surrounding the first team and probably no other coach in Portugal had that.
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They don’t, it’s just an excuse to scrounge more money out of us.
It's also fair, given we are 3 months into a season and they are trying to win a title while we are about to take their manager and a bunch of their coaching staff.
Bloody kids. Get back to school.
Just in time for a much easier fixture list (on paper) which will hopefully see better results and avoid immediate media/social media pressure.
Sure that’ll come at some time though…
Honestly, the only ever time I've seen that formation look good was when Poch was at Spurs and he had that pivot of Dembele and Dier I think it was,
and Jose when he was at Chelsea, you need to solid athletic DMs for it to work.
It is not really. You must look from employers view. You have manager (not talking just about football now) who is in charge for ton of important things and if he is leaving you would expect that he makes transition easier. Delegate some of his current business, informs you about some things, finish some (important) things which he started etc....
Without notice period he can leave same day and leave your business in complete mess.
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Really hope he can call out the media / refs and not be like ETH.
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From what I hear, Amorim doesn't behave in this way.
She'll find Mr right eventually
Yes definitely, this is the most important trait he needs to have.
Constantly calling out referees, getting himself huge fines and touchline bans. I can practically smell our next premier league title.
You don't want a manager working with the team who has little to no interest in how the next couple of games go for the team you're forcing him to stay and manage. You're better off putting an interim in.
I'd seen quite a few Sporting fans say that on various social media but I'm happy to be corrected if that's not the case.
If it doesn't work out, club shouldn't hesitate to sack him as well. Every manager stays at United 6 months too long. Ten Hag perhaps even stayed 12-13 months too long, though Fa Cup win was enjoyable.
This reminds me a bit of when Chelsea sacked Mourinho in 2016. We were in 16th in the table and the very next game was at home vs Sunderland. Before the game, Mourinho stans were saying 'let's see, if we continue losing, then it's proof Mourinho was working with a bunch of duds who have no business being at Chelsea, but they were also saying if they play well and win then it's proof they all downed tools.
Either scenario conveniently absolved Mourinho. We put in a brilliant performance and comfortably beat Sunderland 3-1 and of course the prevailing narrative from that season was the players downed tools.
Will we get a new manager bounce tonight and Sunday? Nah that only happens to teams we play.
With Sporting playing again on Friday, I assume the poor guy has to do another press conference tomorrow! Home to City next Tuesday as well but you'd like to think everything would be done by then.
Who else if the leaves on the spot?
Enough of the personal insults and the homophobic slurs. Thanks.
Plus Eth was supposedly stubborn with his approach. And slow at making substitutions
Hopefully this move gets finalized soon and Amorim gets to work.
Playing three at the back Amorim style actually solves a few issues for us; our dearth of fit left backs can be countered by rotating in wingers. Our lack of midfielders is mitigated by needing only two out and out midfielders.
Amorim is stylistically close enough to Ten Hag to make the succession a good fit. He is inheriting a better squad than 10Hag, so will need less time in my opinion.
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Yoro De Ligt Martinez
Dalot Ugarte Mainoo Garnacho
Amad Højlund Bruno
Playing three at the back Amorim style actually solves a few issues for us; our dearth of fit left backs can be countered by rotating in wingers. Our lack of midfielders is mitigated by needing only two out and out midfielders.
Amorim is stylistically close enough to Ten Hag to make the succession a good fit. He is inheriting a better squad than 10Hag, so will need less time in my opinion.
Onana
Yoro De Ligt Martinez
Dalot Ugarte Mainoo Garnacho
Amad Højlund Bruno
Anyone? Surely they have a coach who can step in and replace him within the next two weeks. That's what an interim is.
Rumoured to have a 30days gardening leave in his contract.
I disagree on both points but let’s leave it there as it’s nothing to do with the thread.
In Portugal normally the coaches of the big 3 - the other teams I don't know - , talk to the press the day before the game, a flash after the game for the TV station who broadcasted the game and after the game in the stadion.
I would change Garnacho and Amad.
I reckon the first game he manages for us will be Ipswich after the international break.
People probably got a little excited yesterday after Sporting sent the message to the securities market.
Not strong enough to win the PL, but we actually have a strong squad that should be in the top four right now. Our glaring weakness in terms of the squad is the absence of a goal scorer — which is a strange thing for a club like United to be bereft of. You could add to that no LB when Shaw is out, which means no LB at all, as I don’t rate Malacia as anything more than emergency cover when he is fit.
Klopp got away with it and now Liverpool get decisions go their way every week.
Fergie did it all the time.
Well yes, but without any notice, you're talking hours and days instead of weeks
Sorry you're right too.
Yes but that release clause has a 2.5 week notice period and one article I read said it could be up to a month but wasn’t clear why. So to get him immediately or asap they are negotiating a fee
But they can pay more to get him released with reduced notice period and also have to buy his staff
You could say the same about Amorim, he's Benfica fan and was ready to drop us for West Ham and now leaving us in the middle of the season.
Portuguese law. Very unlikely that Sporting hold him to that, they will want to get a new manager in asap and move on.
Agreed - you take the fine by calling someone out but start the idea of a biased ref/a certain team getting favourable decisions and the refs, who are human, then start to try and prove that is not the case.
We fired Ten Hag and put Ruud in right away, I'm sure no one came into work in the morning thinking that would happen. We wouldn't have dreamed of firing Ten Hag and then telling him to work 30 days notice so we can find a replacement. Same goes for any departure. Once they're gone, they're gone. You don't want them hanging around the place talking to other people about where they're going. At the point he signs the contract he's an employee of someone else. Why would Sporting want a Manchester United employee in their changing rooms speaking to their staff and players? It's a massive distraction and a tapping up risk.
Don't see how Portuguese employment law holds up in the UK. He won't be serving any notice period.