Ye I love it when we announce on the pitch. It raises the atmosphere
Ruben Amorim | United meet Sporting release clause
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) are here to give their reaction just hours after the news has broke. Where did it all go wrong for ETH? What's next for United? and what were the highlights?
They also react to United's loss away at West Ham, including a breakdown of that ridiculous VAR decision.
He wasn't dropped. On contrary, he became even more important after Coates went back to Uruguay. He had a very good start of the season. He was injured and he just returned recently. Yesterday was a league cup game and he was probably spared.
I’m so excited to see Amorims first line up and in a potential 3-4-3
I never thought I’d be excited to see us lineup with 3 at the back, but here we are. 
Villas Boas?
I mean, the most obvious recent dutch managers would be Guus Hiddink, Koeman, Van Gaal, Jol.
Suppose there’s no point in mentioning De Boer.
Mmm strange reaction. Ofcourse is has to do with a manager how he set the team up or if he has lost the dressing room. No one is saying otherwise right?
Just because EtH ultimately failed, doesn't mean he wasn't worth the punt at the time. I think he was actually the right kind of appointment, it just ultimately didn't work out, partly because of the mess he inherited (and actually did well to address in that first season) and partly because of the protracted takeover.
Amorim is a punt, but at this point any manager is going to be. There isn't an obvious appointment, like Klopp for Liverpool or Pep for City. Tuchel certainly wasn't that. I'm sure he'd have done ok, but his record isn't exactly guaranteed success.
I'd be interested to see:
------------------------Onana
---------De Ligt----Evans*----Martinez
Mazraoui---Mainoo---Ugarte---Dalot
----------Bruno--------------Garnacho
---------------------Hojlund
*Yoro when fit, obviously
------------------------Onana
---------De Ligt----Evans*----Martinez
Mazraoui---Mainoo---Ugarte---Dalot
----------Bruno--------------Garnacho
---------------------Hojlund
*Yoro when fit, obviously
Likewise, it also seems INEOS agree. I rather this situation where we waited to sack Ten Hag and get someone they believe in rather than someone for the sake of it.
Tuchel has a proven history of being a 18 month manager and quite toxic, not something this squad needs.
This squad needs a coach to improve them and teach them, something I think Amorim can do.
I prefer them being incompetent and bottling it like so many have said here, than being reactive like the old regime. We saw many many fans cry for Woodward back "If it was Woodward he would have got sacked and Tuchel in". There is a reason Woodward was sacked too, for that reason, being reactive.
Wouldn’t you want the best aerial presence in the middle I.e. De Ligt? And the legs of Yoro at RCB?
It's a major problem for our squad in general but that side there is far too slow, particularly the back 3
The best thing about all this is that OT will be rocking tonight and on Sunday. First for Ruud, then for him. Predicting two wins and a style of play to be recognisable almost instantly.
Tuchel is known to be problematic, and he’s happy to voice his issues in public when he doesn’t get what he wants. He seems less than ideal for a setup where he needs to work closely with a sporting director. Obviously a good manager, by all means, but i doubt he would’ve been a good fit.
We offered him a contract that took away his ability to complain about getting things he didn't want because he wasn't allowed input in those things as the 'Head Coach'. He decided against it though.
Exactly, so many fans want the person with titles under his belt without looking at the profile and what the club is doing.
We have changed our transfer approach to younger players, which means they need to grow, in order to do that, they need to be coached.
Hiring a Tuchel who doesn't coach / improve players, would be counter productive to our new methods.
Secondly, look at the teams that are higher up the table, all have coaches rather than disciplinarians. That is the modern way, you have to be able to coach a system to players.
I was just giving my opinion, not making things up - I generally felt from the start that he struggled to fully express himself in some interviews as he doesn't seem to have a wide vocabulary when trying to articulate himself emotionally in English. That's the impression I got since his first interview and I hoped it would improve.
To me, teh Hag often seemed to be struggling to find the right words, with his staccato like sentences often fractured with hesitations and the "...eh?" I sometimes found it quite awkward and difficult to listen to as I didn't feel that he was able to say exactly what he wanted to say. A good example is in the video which someone posted here recently. I wouldn't call that a case of great motivational speaking.
What's funny is you comparing him to Ferguson. Anyway I will leave it there - if you think ten Hag's communication was not a problem then we'll have to agree to disagree.
Why do you think people flock to the UK then to want to live there?
Sounds like bs. Dan Ashworth has spoken freely about how he works and how it’s always a collaboration with the manager because there’s no point in spending money on a player that the manager doesn’t want. The manager will always have input.
Reading that Athletic article, I'm actually quite convinced that Amorim and a future management change did at least partially factor into our Summer transfer plans. The article mentions that the ownership structure are not concerned about a change to a 3ATB system, and I have to wonder if that's because they have already prepared for it?
It would've tickled my "we're regressing year after year into a non serious club" side
Just for fun
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————Rio——Stam——Vidic
Beckham Keane Scholes Giggs
—————Ronaldo—Rooney
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Would those profiles work in this system?
——————-Schmeichel
————Rio——Stam——Vidic
Beckham Keane Scholes Giggs
—————Ronaldo—Rooney
————————RVN
Would those profiles work in this system?
I mean that team would absolutely piss this league
That lot could work in any system. 11 total legends!
It took less than 25 seconds in that video for him to wheel out the “full squad available” nonsense and give the players an excuse not to perform. No wonder the players looked completely uninspired under him when they’re being told we can only perform when everyone is available.
That team would turn Pep into a meth addict.
He wasn't good enough a decade ago. Unlikely that has changed in his early 30s
It wouldn't even be fair on the rest of the league, really.
Same! I actually think we have a better squad for 3-4-3 than our current system.
It´s going to be refreshing to see somthing new for a change.
To be fair we got a lot of warnings from Ajax fans about his reluctance to change things in games which we all witnessed once he joined us.
Didn’t say it was a good idea to be fair
I worry that this is all playing out in public. If he decides not to come it will be yet another huge humiliation for our banter club…
Hindsight is 20/20. I was ‘wetting myself’ over EtH when appointed because he’d done well at Ajax playing some good football and coached up players to get the best out of them.
I feel the same about this appointment, again he’s my preferred option and the one I wanted the most but didn’t think it would actually happen. Of course its a gamble, every signing is but doesn’t mean its going to fail just because Ten Hag didn’t work out.
Relax, you think we’d trigger his release clause if we didn’t get assurances that he was willing to take the job?
It should also make us harder to play against. And a more solid team
So you’d have been “wetting yourself” if we hired Tuchel instead?
Hardly compared him with Ferguson, i just don’t see why we’re actively trying to create problems when it’s not like there’s not enough problems to talk about in the first place. It’s not like it was portraited as a major issue that we had to use translators in order to communicate with a shitload of players in the past. The same can easily be said about how training sessions were delegated to other members, like Phelan or Carlos.
Do i think that Ten Hag’s less than flawless English was ideal, both for communicating with players and for press conferences, nah. Do i think it contributed all that much to our on the pitch issues? I seriously doubt it.
It's like he is pissing in his shorts while he is standing up in front of everybody trying to deliver a war cry.
Is INEOS off the hook with this appointment?