How was he very inconsistent in applying it?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) are here to give their reaction just hours after the news has broke. Where did it all go wrong for ETH? What's next for United? and what were the highlights?
They also react to United's loss away at West Ham, including a breakdown of that ridiculous VAR decision.
How was he very inconsistent in applying it?
Or maybe they gave everything but were setup poorly?
Ten Hag's game plan was trying to resign the last title winning team
Interesting on Welbeck. I've always like him but his age, lack of a prolific record and sketchy injury record (although it's been okay over the last couple of years) makes him a bit of an odd target to have. He's started the season very well but that isn't the norm for him. You can't look back and think if only we had Welbeck just cause he's got 6 in 9 so far this season for Brighton.
My point is he’d better be!
Fecking hell Tom Cleverly making his much anticipated return!
I would have preferred Tuchel over Amorim too but there would be question marks over any new manager we get except for Pep. I don't think anyone is certain of success but at least we have a better chance now with ETH gone.
Two in 50 while true is a bit misguiding. They won 2 titles in 4 years before Pep went there. They won’t be as dominant without Pep, of course, but they will continue being one of the top clubs in Europe.
It’s kind of funny that Ten Hags targets range from Dutch players he’s worked with or ex United players
Two league titles in the 5 years before you mean. At least be straight up about it ffs
1 fast CB is fine, City get away with it.
ten Hag getting sacked didn't leak until minutes before the announcement.
How do you not understand that everyone is a gamble especially seeing how it went with ethl?
I agree. In my view, his English was only good rather than excellent.
His interviews were sometimes a little frustrating to listen to as he seemingly struggled to articulate what he was thinking or feeling at times. With English not being the first language of most of the players, I can't imagine that they found it any easier.
I think this level of communication can be effective in giving facts and delivering instructions, but will come up short when trying to express more emotional and inspirational messages needed to really motivate and impassion the players.
Tuchel is more of a known gamble. His ceiling is already known to me, I couldn’t pretend to be excited for him. The England job suits him much better. Going for a young up and coming manager is a gamble, but he can grow with this changing club. It’s an ideally timed appointment overall with INEOS just coming in.
No wonder we struggled badly under Fergie with his scottish dialect.
£5m for his staff and extra to release early as Portuguese law means they have to give 30 days notice once a clause has been paid.
No no, he's right.
Where do you live?
Sorry if already answered...What happened between him and West Ham? Did they reject him in the summer?
Well logic would tell me that after paying the release clause this was done obviously
It’s just the press conference was a bit flat, he said he’s taking training today and didn’t even say bye to the fans at last nights final whistle.
Not sure what I was expecting but just seemed like he hadn’t 100% made his mind up
So many words yet you said absolutely nothing
Having a thick accent/dialect is very different to not having the words to express yourself.
Christ, talk about awkward.
This whole place is pointless with this attitude? “Stop discussing things”?
Where do you live?
The past 30 years: UK, US; recently, Singapore and now Malaysia. (But worked across 20+ countries, three continents.)
So nothing to do with EtH?
If they play well then they didn't give everything. If they don't play well then they are shit.
0 responsibilities on manager.
I completely agree as the difference in quality for the Dutch and Portuguese league to the Premier League is massive but Inacio and Hjmuland walk into our starting eleven whilst I’d take Diomande, Edwards and Gyokeres over Lindelof, Antony and Zirkzee.
No Nikes though - the sponsors won’t be happy!
We've literally agreed their buy out clause.
A true politician!So many words yet you said absolutely nothing
It shouldn’t be ignored that generally Dutch managers have faired a hell of a lot worse in the PL than Portuguese managers. The transition between the two leagues seems quite a lot better coming from Portugal.
It’s just a funny claim, don’t really understand the need to make things up just to come up with more negativity. We have assistants that do translations, same as we had under Ferguson..It’s not like there’s few interviews where ex players laugh about how they understood feck all coming from Fergie, especially when he was mad.
I don't think he completely lost the dressing room but a section of players definitely weren't convinced by him and he was never really able to inspire the team to give 100%, likely as a consequence.
It wouldn’t surprise me, level in Portugal is generally higher, but then again i suppose that Jose Mourinho is the only real success story so far?
Christ. I just can't see how this guy motivates players at this level. Fair play to him for the few times he did, considering how awkward and uninspiring he comes across.
At the highest level but the PL has had a lot more successful Portuguese managers than Dutch ones, even if they’re just mid table teams.
I don’t think he lost the dressing room but they definitely had no idea what they were doing. The capitulation every time we had a lead showed that. We will obviously see a different approach which may make us look like a different team.
Who are we talking?
Silva? Nuno?
Cheers!
I think he will learn after a season that with the intensity both on and off the field, he will recognise the need or utilisation for a larger squad -- especially considering the expectations of a club like United.
The other learning curve that he will need to undertake will be the exposure to the variety of managers (all with massive budgets; even Ipswich's budget will dwarf that of any of the top three Portuguese clubs ) --- and the resources to implement their respective footballing philosophies.
How much that will affect his more dogmatic approach will certainly be tested.