Ruben Amorim | United meet Sporting release clause

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amolbhatia50k said:
That's a generous way of putting it. You cannot compare City as a normal club with the sugar daddy 115 charges era. They had a couple of disappointing seasons prior to Pep's arrival but just that was coming off two league tiles in three years and a 2nd place finish in the other year.
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I’m not sure if you’re agreeing or disagreeing with me here, but they spent an incredible amount of money in the run up to those two titles. Signing the likes of Aguero and Silva with rumours of under the table payments in an era of looser FFP.

It’s hard to predict how the 115 charges case will go, but I’d be amazed if they can carry on spending with impunity if they have their sponsorships downgraded. I’m not sure players like Haaland/Gvardiol are jumping ship for City as eagerly with no Pep and “normal” wages.
 
Sarni said:
Liking the fact many people are saying he's great at building team spirit and atmosphere in the locker room. It was one of my biggest gripes with ten Hag, his 'hard disciplinarian' demeanor was extremely was pure nonsense.
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ETH never lost the dressing room even after multiple thrashings and bad results. I'd say he was pretty good with building team spirit. If you think ETH had a hard disciplinarian demeanor then you're living in fantasy land.
 
crossy1686 said:
Hold on to your bollocks
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Eesh. Lot of pressure on young Yoro. Not for the first time I find myself wondering how the feck we spent so much money on centre backs and still don’t have any pace in central defence.
 
AngeloHenriquez said:
He offered that it "Wasn't done" last night after the sporting game, do we think that's just lip service?
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Why wouldn’t it be?
We’ve talked to him
We’ve sorted out the arrangements with Lisbon

If he had any reservations about taking over, to the point where things weren’t sorted, we wouldn’t have proceeded with Sporting.
 
Coops73 said:
And you clearly haven’t been to a “third world” country or even Manchester, yeah some areas of Britain or any country in the western/modernised world or however you want to phrase it have poor or run down areas.

But Third world? I’ve seen some shit written on these forums but you’ve just won the Bollocks d’or.
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He's taking shite mate. Manchester is great with some beautiful areas. Third world hahaha.
 
Desert Eagle said:
ETH never lost the dressing room even after multiple thrashings and bad results. I'd say he was pretty good with building team spirit. If you think ETH had a hard disciplinarian demeanor then you're living in fantasy land.
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He even branded himself as a hard disciplinarian. He was very inconsistent in applying it and some players seemed to have a longer leash but he was definitely trying to come across as one.

I don’t actually know whether he’s lost the dressing room or not, or how players felt. I’m not going to try to debate that as I have zero knowledge.
 
NotChatGPT said:
Why wouldn’t it be?
We’ve talked to him
We’ve sorted out the arrangements with Lisbon

If he had any reservations about taking over, to the point where things weren’t sorted, we wouldn’t have proceeded with Sporting.
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Not just giving them the money, he would have just said, I am staying not leaving if that was the case.

He kept mentioning he will explain everything in a statement, you only do that if you are leaving.
 
sepulturite said:
Did you see them all on a Thursday, a Friday and on Saturday and then did you chill on Sundays?
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Aw yis. Plenty of them. Seems like it's becoming a trend. But this time it's different, gonna chill on sunday looking at Ruben David.
 
McLvnsMuse said:
We know Antony isn’t good enough. I do wonder what happens with Licha. I like him but I have my reservations. Especially in the league.
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We know nothing about how the new manager will rate and use our squad, and how they will perform under him. Antony might have a role to play, he might have a renaissance. Unlikely, but far from impossible. I can't wait to see what happens.
 
This will be announced tomorrow morning after tonight’s game no doubt.
can we start the back / sack thread early doors?
 
I wonder if the posters wetting themselves over Amorin were also the ones wetting themselves over ETH being appointed.. and probably the first to start the latest manager out thread. Then shout ever louder about sack and bring in the next lamb to the slaughter.

Amorin has done very well at Sporting. Can he cut it at a huge club with huge pressure in the premier league? Impossible to say but I won’t be getting too excited too quickly. Judge him at the end of the season assuming he’s the next chosen one. He’s a gamble.

The club imo screwed up, (again) Touchel was there for there for the taking in summer.
 
nunopires2001 said:
As a Sporting Clube de Portugal fan, you can't imagine how devastating the news of Amorim's departure was for all of us.
In 50 years, I've never seen Sporting play so well, so mechanically and dominantly.
Ruben Amorim is a very special coach. A tremendous communicator, with a charisma the size of the world.
Every one of Amorim's press conferences is a special moment.
As has been said, he is a coach of fixed ideas, he clings to a plan he believes in and nothing in this world makes him change!
He also needs a lot of autonomy, he has to have the full ability to control or bypass all decisions related to football. This point has already been a problem in the past.
I believe that with him, Manchester United could be fighting for the title in 2 or 3 years.
But they will have to be patient and fully believe in his work process.
For my part, I have a huge sadness that he has left in this way, it ends up being a betrayal to leave like this in the middle of the season. Sporting has the chance to win 2 championships in a row, something we haven't achieved in 70 years.
But anyway, enjoy his work.

You're going to love Amorim.
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I hope to God you are right, because this sounds almost exactly like the posts we had about Ten Hag a couple of years ago...
 
Told them last night he still hasn’t made his mind up. Or is he just saying that
 
RedIan said:
I wonder if the posters wetting themselves over Amorin were also the ones wetting themselves over ETH being appointed.. and probably the first to start the latest manager out thread. Then shout ever louder about sack and bring in the next lamb to the slaughter.

Amorin has done very well at Sporting. Can he cut it at a huge club with huge pressure in the premier league? Impossible to say but I won’t be getting too excited too quickly. Judge him at the end of the season assuming he’s the next chosen one. He’s a gamble.

The club imo screwed up, (again) Touchel was there for there for the taking in summer.
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I’m glad we missed out on Tuchel in favour of Amorim.
 
abailey123 said:
This will be announced tomorrow morning after tonight’s game no doubt.
can we start the back / sack thread early doors?
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Possibly gets announce pre match tonight. If he travels this morning, we’ll see him in the stands tonight. Give the crowd a boost
 
RedIan said:
I wonder if the posters wetting themselves over Amorin were also the ones wetting themselves over ETH being appointed.. and probably the first to start the latest manager out thread. Then shout ever louder about sack and bring in the next lamb to the slaughter.

Amorin has done very well at Sporting. Can he cut it at a huge club with huge pressure in the premier league? Impossible to say but I won’t be getting too excited too quickly. Judge him at the end of the season assuming he’s the next chosen one. He’s a gamble.

The club imo screwed up, (again) Touchel was there for there for the taking in summer.
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Whats with the hard on for Tuchel?
 
It’s not guaranteed he’s coming.
All we know for sure is what the official and personal statements say.
An approach has been made to Sporting, with an offer for compensation and Amorim has been offered the job, with a contract to be negotiated.
We don’t know if Utd and Sporting have even started negotiating a deal, based on our offer?
On the other hand, it could be close to finalisation, with an announcement coming in the next day or two.
He could still turn us down and stay, rather than take on this poisoned chalice.
Whatever, all the speculation has now become pointless until we know one way or the other.
 
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romufc said:
Not just giving them the money, he would have just said, I am staying not leaving if that was the case.

He kept mentioning he will explain everything in a statement, you only do that if you are leaving.
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I’d imagine that he’d be under instructions to not announce anything during a Sporting Lisbon press conference either.

Either way, i’d be absolutely amazed if things aren’t done and dusted and that it’s just a matter of finer details before he’s announced.
 
Banana Republic said:
It’s not guaranteed he’s coming.
All we know for sure is what the official and personal statements say.
An approach has been made to Sporting, with an offer for compensation and Amorim has been offered the job, with a contract to be negotiated.
He could still turn us down and stay, rather than take on this poisoned chalice.
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Don’t be silly. We don’t make the approach to Sporting, with the compensation being done, if we weren’t sure that Amorim was onboard with it. It would be a PR disaster for the club to do all of that only to be turned down.
 
Banana Republic said:
It’s not guaranteed he’s coming.
All we know for sure is what the official and personal statements say.
An approach has been made to Sporting, with an offer for compensation and Amorim has been offered the job, with a contract to be negotiated.
We don’t know if Utd and Sporting have even started negotiating a deal, based on our offer?
On the other hand, it could be close to finalisation, with an announcement coming in the next day or two.
He could still turn us down and stay, rather than take on this poisoned chalice.
Whatever, all the speculation has now become pointless until we know one way or the other.
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If there is a release clause there doesn’t need to be a negotiation with Sporting and I like to think if we are at the point of meeting said clause it’s because Amorim has made it clear he wants to join.

This is done.
 
NotChatGPT said:
Don’t be silly. We don’t make the approach to Sporting, with the compensation being done, if we weren’t sure that Amorim was onboard with it. It would be a PR disaster for the club to do all of that only to be turned down.
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That would be entirely plausible, if it wasn’t for the fact Utd leaks like a sieve, when it comes to insider information getting out.
 
DJ_21 said:
Possibly gets announce pre match tonight. If he travels this morning, we’ll see him in the stands tonight. Give the crowd a boost
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Really hoping that happens. Be great if he is on the pitch pre game.
 
I hope he wears an armband like he does at Sporting. Like a five-star general prowling the touchline motivating his troops.
 
Banana Republic said:
That would be entirely plausible, if it wasn’t for the fact Utd leaks like a sieve, when it comes to insider information getting out.
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Like only now finding out we’ve had talks with Amorim over the last week?

We’ve had talks with him. It’s resulted in us approaching Sporting to sort out his clause. We wouldn’t be doing that if he wasn’t convinced about taking over. Not even we are that incompetent.
 
RedIan said:
I wonder if the posters wetting themselves over Amorin were also the ones wetting themselves over ETH being appointed.. and probably the first to start the latest manager out thread. Then shout ever louder about sack and bring in the next lamb to the slaughter.

Amorin has done very well at Sporting. Can he cut it at a huge club with huge pressure in the premier league? Impossible to say but I won’t be getting too excited too quickly. Judge him at the end of the season assuming he’s the next chosen one. He’s a gamble.

The club imo screwed up, (again) Touchel was there for there for the taking in summer.
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I mean, I would hope that club supporters are excited about Amorin now and also that they would be unhappy if we were sitting in 14th two and a half years later.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Eesh. Lot of pressure on young Yoro. Not for the first time I find myself wondering how the feck we spent so much money on centre backs and still don’t have any pace in central defence.
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Yoro is very quick?
 
RedIan said:
I wonder if the posters wetting themselves over Amorin were also the ones wetting themselves over ETH being appointed.. and probably the first to start the latest manager out thread. Then shout ever louder about sack and bring in the next lamb to the slaughter.

Amorin has done very well at Sporting. Can he cut it at a huge club with huge pressure in the premier league? Impossible to say but I won’t be getting too excited too quickly. Judge him at the end of the season assuming he’s the next chosen one. He’s a gamble.

The club imo screwed up, (again) Touchel was there for there for the taking in summer.
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Its funny you talk about wetting themselves but you are still twerking for Tuchel who is a worse coach.

Can Tuchel cut it under pressure? Bucked at Bayern and PSG under pressure. His style is outdated and is not known to improve players.

Amorim on the other hand is a young coach who can improve players whilst playing in an expansive system.

No one is getting that excited either, the excitement is Ten Hag is sacked and a new manager is in.

If in 2 years we are 14th then he will be sacked too, at least he will get 2 odd years, the manager you are twerking for normally blows up in 18 months.
 
Desert Eagle said:
ETH never lost the dressing room even after multiple thrashings and bad results. I'd say he was pretty good with building team spirit. If you think ETH had a hard disciplinarian demeanor then you're living in fantasy land.
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I think we will see in the performances next couple of weeks if he lost the dressing room or not. Are they really that shit or didn’t they give everything.
 
Sarni said:
He even branded himself as a hard disciplinarian. He was very inconsistent in applying it and some players seemed to have a longer leash but he was definitely trying to come across as one.

I don’t actually know whether he’s lost the dressing room or not, or how players felt. I’m not going to try to debate that as I have zero knowledge.
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He also branded himself as a great tactician and we saw how that worked out. Every manager needs to balance the carrot and the stick and Amorim will be no different.
 
Amsterdam Devil said:
I think we will see in the performances next couple of weeks if he lost the dressing room or not. Are they really that shit or didn’t they give everything.
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I really hope we see massive improvements straight away. These are not bad players.

Hopefully Amorim coaches and gets the best out of some of these players. He has alot of players to chose from so has his work cut out for him.
 
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