Ruben Amorim | United meet Sporting release clause
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) are here to give their reaction just hours after the news has broke. Where did it all go wrong for ETH? What's next for United? and what were the highlights?
They also react to United's loss away at West Ham, including a breakdown of that ridiculous VAR decision.
Big day tomorrow then? Presented on the pitch before the game and in the dugout for Sunday then yeah?
This is all incidental and will not be the reason he will fail if he is to do so.
Onana
De Ligt Maguire Martinez
Mazraoui Mainoo Ugarte Amass
Bruno Garnacho
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I am genuinely happy to see my United fans in real life very excited about getting Amorim. We would seriously appreciate you being shit for one more week. I don’t think it is too much to ask! 
Suspect this gets done because - considering how much we dilly dallied - we likely wouldn't have sacked Ten Hag without a replacement pretty much signed/sealed.
So the big question is, how do we all watch Sporting tonight?
100%
It is delusional to think that any quality coach is going to be stuck in one formation and unable to adapt their style to different league and different squad
The definition of a good tactical coach is that they need to develop new system for premier league and current United squad specifically
Anything less is amateur hour.
Until proven otherwise, we should give Amorim the benefit of doubt that he is not primitive and knows what he is doing
It's a league cup game so we will probably not play at full strength.
They've already basically admitted they made 1 big mistake last summer, would the really want to admit to another by bringing Alvaro back and a bigger price than they sold him for in the summer.
wasn't ineos who agreed the loan option
Well we did insert a buy-back clause for a reason.
I’m optimistic about this, I’m very happy ETH is gone. I’m realistic that the upcoming managers from other leagues don’t always make it.
Vilas Boas, ETH, Emery (arsenal), Postecoglu are four that sping to mind but Klopp, Wenger, Mourinho show that lesser known managers can make it.
Vilas Boas, ETH, Emery (arsenal), Postecoglu are four that sping to mind but Klopp, Wenger, Mourinho show that lesser known managers can make it.
It was INEOS who allowed him to leave permanently though rather than convincing him to stay.
Be interesting to see if players out injured all of a sudden push themselves and are miraculously back a bit quicker now.
Don’t know too much about the new man but the stuff I read is promising. Fingers crossed it all falls into place from here.
Don’t know too much about the new man but the stuff I read is promising. Fingers crossed it all falls into place from here.
Feels abit early to add him on that list. Think he'll do well in Spurs eventually.
Benfica had the option..
Surely Bruno can’t still be captain. Who could he give it to?
They can only use that option if the player agree's to it, INEOS could still have convinced him to stay.
He doesn’t play a 343 standard formation he likes one second striker type and one playmaking winger as the two behind the out and out number 9, his favoured formation is 3421 set up but he wants his GK and Defence to play a high line so it’s almost 1-3-2-5 as he tries to own the other team in their own half, the keeper is 15-20 yards higher than penalty Area, the 3 man defence on the half way line 2 Man mobile midfield 20 yards higher and the 5 attacking players, rotating with the wing backs, key to success as when they lose the ball he demands that they get back into 5-4-1 defensive strategy.
Players like Lenny Yoro, Martinez and De light will benefit as they will have a far more compact defensive unit with Ugarte and Mainoo in front of them.
Martinez will be able to use his passing game to be far more effective and United will need an offensive left wing back, Alvero Fernandez and Ben Chillwell are back on the menu as relative cheap options that are suitable to his system.
Disagree.
Surely a Portuguese manger will stick with his countryman and one of our best players.
I like him, as a Glaswegian I thought he was amazing for Celtic. I can sense the vultures and press circling though and Levi won’t accept 5th or 6th as he actually thinks they are a massive club.
De Ligt
The player agreed to it when they went on loan
I loved Bruno in the first few seasons but I can’t see his body language as captain material.
Another manager/coach to United's grinding machine, good (ok) coaches and players end up to be shit.
Of course he can. I would say the vast majority of managers arriving in these circumstances wouldn't change the captain upon arriving. Further down the line, maybe.
I'm pretty sure you repeadly said we couldn't afford it?
That makes sense, I guess the back 3 (alongside a out-and-out destroyer type) would provide that adequate cover like you say; if Matheus Nunes can play there effectively - somebody I would consider to profile as a slightly more offensive-minded midfielder than Mainoo - I'm sure it can work for Kobbie. Here's hoping he can regain the form from last year under a new manager!
Maguire would be hilarious. I wouldn't be surprised if it's still Bruno, he isn't going to upset the apple cart over something so trivial.
How refreshing is it that the club actually seems to have a plan and the ability to make it happen quickly? You could argue they could have done something sooner with ETH, but if they manage to turn it around with only 1 game with an interim I'd say that's worked out well.
Bruno worries me in any system in any style of play that any manager we hire.
Bruno is capable of playing CM/AM/RW or even LW. He's probably a master of none of them but will probably get a key role in the starting 11. He's become a jack of all trads type.
I don't know a lot about the 3-4-3 preferred by Amorin but I wouldn't trust Bruno in a CM 2 (I'd opt for Ugarte/Mainoo) and would prefer we played Garnacho or Amad off the RW. If he plays narrow forwards, again i'd like to see Amad playing there or possibly even Mount. Bruno cant dictate a game from deep for me - he's not tactically aware enough.
I dont think we'd need to spend as drastic as 200Mil but the Left Wing back area would be an urgent need, the rest would come in to replacements for those the new gaffer doesn't fancy.
New manager, new system, we may even see some players pick up some form and belief and fit into the style of play needed. Anthony, Zirkzee for example may excel in a different environment.
There is the caveat that he needs to apply for a right to work in the UK permit which can take up to 3 weeks, my guess is RVN is doing 4 games, Leicester (Carabo cup), Chelsea (PL), Leicester (PL) and PAOK (Europa league), if Everything is settled Ruben first game will be Ipswich away on 24th November, he has a month to evaluate the squad, give his list for January for the players he needs asap to implement his style and then inevitably get turned down as we’ve got no money !
No reason to ruffle feathers so early on the tenure. It's a meaningless post anyway - leaders are doing to lead.
I think the squad building efforts this summer put us in a decent position already. We have an array of CBs and Wide center backs. The LB / LWB situation is the biggest problem but I think he just has to find solutions there either by promoting from within or drafting in players like Antony.
The Davies links from earlier this week make sense in this context as well.
Didn't the club have a plan when getting ten Hag though?
Ugarte and Mainoo sounds quite tasty to be honest. Though it was awful the one time it happened.
Ye but we can’t really go of a lot of partnerships under ETH as the system was a complete mess.
Which is something we're likely going to do more often in the future. Sell the young players who are very talented but not quite able to break into our team, but put a decent buy-back clause in there. Them actually being owned by their new team (as opposed to just being on loan) makes it more likely they get the gametime and develop in a way that they won't here, and if things go well enough we can bring them back fairly easily.
surely the mainstay in the starting 11, who captained us to a cup final victory over the best team in Europe a few months ago... surely that guy will instantly be stripped of the captaincy by the incoming manager.