Sky have gone from him being the most promising manager (when linked to City) to now being in-experienced. sh!tshow
Ruben Amorim | United meet Sporting release clause
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) are here to give their reaction just hours after the news has broke. Where did it all go wrong for ETH? What's next for United? and what were the highlights?
They also react to United's loss away at West Ham, including a breakdown of that ridiculous VAR decision.
I didn't read back far enough to get the full context of your post, so apologies for that.
But since I did take you out of context, I'll give an example of a manager who has had both relative success and instant change in playing style, Emery at Villa.
Alvaro doesn’t have the legs to play that role. Although he’d be decent cover as a LCB.
Shaw started as LWB against Italy in the Euros final and was excellent
Yup. We lack players who are strong runners. Eriksen, Zirkzee and Casemiro are the obvious ones, but also Mainoo is no strong runner. Rashford, Garnacho and Shaw have great pace but lack stamina to run up and down the pitch for 95 minutes. Ugarte and Bruno are strong runners.
It will be a challenge to play any other game than counter attacking with the current group of players, as ETH discovered. West Ham first half was great however.
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He’s world class when fit.
I can’t help but think this is an Omar Berada led appointment.
I really do think City were lining him up with Viana joining ahead of him and Berada knows that not only can we get a top class talent but we can also put a stick in City’s spokes while we are at it.
I really do think City were lining him up with Viana joining ahead of him and Berada knows that not only can we get a top class talent but we can also put a stick in City’s spokes while we are at it.
Our very own Peter Kenyon.
I think people got fairly poor info about ETH at Ajax. He had haller up front for a season and played a lot more like we saw at united. Most games they are playing minnows so people look at average possession etc and extrapolate nonsense.
Reading about amorim, the same issues apply, but in bigger domestic games or European games they give up a lot of possession, so I think that is probably the base case for style.
I don't watch much football anymore, but he sounds like a promising candidate.
I'm seeing people having concerns about playing three at the back, which I don't really get. Playing three at the back can he plenty offensive and might even suit the players we have through the middle of the park. I'm more interested in how we line up up front. Højlund is kinda the only out and out striker so he's a given unless we bring someone else in. But who plays along him? And will it be two up top or two behind the striker?
I saw someone was concerned about not playing with wingers, but should we really be worried about that? Our wingers haven't exactly performed consistently so we might as well try something else.
I also think we can forget about bringing a lot of players in and if we can only sign one player in the next transfer window it needs to be a left back/wingback as we haven't fielded a recognised left back since Shaw was fit for about three games in January or whenever it was.
I'm seeing people having concerns about playing three at the back, which I don't really get. Playing three at the back can he plenty offensive and might even suit the players we have through the middle of the park. I'm more interested in how we line up up front. Højlund is kinda the only out and out striker so he's a given unless we bring someone else in. But who plays along him? And will it be two up top or two behind the striker?
I saw someone was concerned about not playing with wingers, but should we really be worried about that? Our wingers haven't exactly performed consistently so we might as well try something else.
I also think we can forget about bringing a lot of players in and if we can only sign one player in the next transfer window it needs to be a left back/wingback as we haven't fielded a recognised left back since Shaw was fit for about three games in January or whenever it was.
Fitness is the reason for the *.
He's either fit or he isn't, there's no fit enough for CB but not LWB unless his legs are entirely gone
Caught him out once when he wrote a piece about the end of Frank O'Farrell's reign at United. He wrote about stuff that happened during a match at Sehurst Park in December 1972 as if he were there. I commented that he could have no first-hand knowledge as the game was played 4 years before he was born. The comment was deleted in short order. He's a bluffer.
True. I’d be very happy if we switched to 3 at the back and think it will suit our CBs. Luckily aswell we can play the 3 at top with wingers or even change it to 3-5-2 with 2 up top.
Could be the word has got out that Pep isn’t leaving City next summer and United and Amorim made their move?
He’s doing a great job with Sporting and is a young manager with further potential. Obviously, given our track record with managers since Fergie retired, there is no guarantee of success, but it’s an exciting possibility. We really need to find the right man this time.
Attacking wingbacks.. Defensive wingers... pick your poison.
Just making my point mate - that with a good manager, the style of play and the system can change and be visible within weeks.
And never kicked a ball since. I'd hope I'm wrong on this but he'll never be fit enough to be a wing back at this point of his career and the injury troubles he's had. Its an extremely demanding position
Glad to be wrong for once.
Doesn't really prove it either way though. Can still be that they didn't want to because of cost, it just reached the point where they simply had to. The knock on impact of the £20m+? will be felt somewhere down the line.
For once
City saving face?
Seems that way to me too.
I had that same feeling!
‘Left’
He also left Sporting to go home to sleep. What kinda guy leaves a title race to go home to sleep?
Problem with ETH was that he underestimated the physical requirements for this league which meant that his style wasn't transferable to the PL and United with the players he spent a fortune on. Look at Antony, looks like a top winger in Holland but can't hack it in the PL. His failure to recognise this and adapt is what cost us because watching Arsenal they play a similar style albeit with more emphasis on possession, maybe another reason why it failed cause it must taxing to be on the backfoot two or three passes after exerting energy to win the ball back every other move.
Didn’t aim at you. It was aimed at the people who don’t think 3-5-3 is possible in the PL.
The City briefs are hilarious. Didn't the same happen with Ronaldo (and Maguire and Sanchez but there's only so much PTSD I can bring up)?
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Dyslexia then?
Just jokingI'm trying not to get too excited... but I am really looking forward to the rest of the season now.
Hope this good feeling lasts.
Hope this good feeling lasts.
He’s seen the back of every manager we bring in ha
I agree that our squad lacks dynamic players, but I also think that ETH's tactical setup, which had Casemiro covering about 50 square yards last season and his lack of rotation exaggerated the lack of athleticism in the squad.
I thought it was pure nonsense all along tbh. It would be pretty wild if we were the only club that I know of who couldn't afford to sack a manager. I'm pretty sure it was also debunked several times on here. Anyhow, onwards and upwards.
The predictable City brief that they were never interested.
Never fancied her anyway mate.
Maybe, or it could just be that he was the best manager available.
Very easy to write United off when they’re stinking up the bottom half having now racked up a catalogue of failed managers.
Knew little of him but from what I can tell it might be. Onana; Mazraoui, Yoro, de Ligt, Martinez, Dalot; Mainoo, Ugarte; Zirkzee, Fernandes; Højlund. Ish? With Garnacho, Amad and Rashford getting s fair share of minutes too.
So he will come at the end of the season, correct? Or is he really going to leave sporting during the season?
The theory that they didn't want to sack him because of cost is a non starter really. Why?
Go check in the summer, many were reporting the cost to be £17m anyway.. so there is no difference in cost sacking him then and now.
If as per people say, cost is the reason he wasn't sacked, we would be appointing Potter, Southgate, Xavi as manager, rather than paying a release clause for a manager.