Looks like he takes over immediately.
Ruben Amorim | United meet Sporting release clause
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) are here to give their reaction just hours after the news has broke. Where did it all go wrong for ETH? What's next for United? and what were the highlights?
They also react to United's loss away at West Ham, including a breakdown of that ridiculous VAR decision.
Well maybe not Garnacho, but the point I'm making is that he's only got ETHs team to play with.
The point remains the same, talking about tactics and formations doesn't change the fact that half the team is shite and he can't sprinkle pixie dust over them just because he's a new manager.
Ten Hag shit the bed far too quickly to wait for the end of the season. Which could really leave the next manager in a rough situation if the rot is hard to address
Didn’t Ange change Spurs in a few weeks?
That's a bit extreme, no sane candidate is going to accept such a silly contract. My point was that we should be ready to lose money and terminate useless managers quickly. Call it the cost of doing business.
Some rumours City contacted him and promised him he's a candidate who will take over after Pep.
But can he do it on a cold Wednesday evening in the Vanarama?
If Ten Hag was as bas as everyone says he was, then he will pick up and the players will play better.
Look at Villa, I bet you said the same thing about them players when Unai took over?
You talk about Bruno and Rashford turning into world beaters? but we have seen them capable of doing so..
Half the team isnt shite.. thats your opinion based on watching under this manager.. Dalow, Maz, De Ligt, Licha, Yoro, Mainoo, Ugarte, Bruno, Rashford, Garnacho, Hojlund, Casemiro are not shit players.
That would just be a back 5.
Amorim uses attacking wingers as his “wing backs”. Nuno Santos for example, a Winger all his life.
Imagine thinking they have the pull to block a move just because he might get the chance to interview for a job.
Very true. Thanks again.
115 charges can't promise anything to anyone right now. It's just BS.
True. But on the other hand its a huge risk career wise to take over United at this point.
And we're off. Didn't take the Guardian's Jonathan Wilson long to pen an article about the 'enormous risk' Amorim is taking if he comes here. Meanwhile, in another column, Nick Hopkins - a fan - writes that Ten Hag 'got the club' and didn't deserve the sack.
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...anchester-united-he-deserved-better-than-this
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ter-united-ruben-amorim-erik-ten-hag-football
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...anchester-united-he-deserved-better-than-this
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ter-united-ruben-amorim-erik-ten-hag-football
Yeah feel exactly the same only because have concerns we don't have the players for his 3-4-3, also how will he cope with that step up from managing Sporting. That's the only reason Nagelsmann was above him on my wish list as he had already managed a huge club.
Was just going to post this haha... they're such a smalltime club. No matter how much success they've had lately.
Did he?
I agree they're not all shit players that's why I didn't list them all and I've never seen Dalow play, who's he?
But let's not pretend that Amorim is going to turn them around, into a top 4 club, within a couple of weeks like some people are suggesting. I get the new manager bounce and all that and I also get, and hope, that his style of play and tactics are better than ETHs.
But let's not get ahead of ourselves and automatically think that, just because he's brought in, that some of the players currently playing poorly are going to turn in Ronaldos and Messis overnight, because they won't.
Some posters will have you believe Shaws injury record will improve, just because Amorims been appointed. It won't.
I'm a big fan of Amorim, I want him at United, but let's not get ahead of ourselves and instantly believe he's going to fix everything. It's not 60 Minute Makeover.
I quite like Jonathan Wilson, at least when he talks about obscure football tactics from the 1970s or whatnot. But he really has it in for United these days.
I don't know anything about their relationship but his body language made me feel like he doesn't get along with the ex-sporting lisbon dof/the new city dof as much as people seem to think.
Ah the old 'We weren't interested in him anyway"
They'll be seething if we pull this off. He was 100% one of their main targets without a doubt
REDEMPTION ARC INCOMING
Stylistically at least, that might be a better fit for him than as a pure attacking winger. Whether he can regain some form - or indeed whether his best form would ever be good enough - remains to be seen. But I wouldn't be surprised to see him tried as a left wingback at some point.
Quite possibly just speculations from some journos since Hugo Viana, Sporting's director, is going to replace Begiristain at City.
Okay so you said you dont think they are all shit, listed 3.. Bruno Rashford Garnacho, then said half the team, didn't realise a team consists of 6 players. This is 11 a side not 6 a side btw.
No one said that the players will turn into Messi or Ronaldo, that is you assumption that fans think that.
What I am expecting is a more compact team, defending as a team.
Well I dont see many people saying he will fix everything either, again you are claiming things that maybe 1 or 2 poster is saying and making it seem like its the whole fanbase.
Yes he clearly did. Starting last season they were night and day and just a few weeks of preseason.
Have you seen noticed bar a very few headcases, players tend to behave under good managers. Take a look at all the top clubs who play good football, win titles. All their players tend to behave well, train well and play well. Majority of the players respect good coaches/managers. It's just like any other job, if your boss is a moron and makes bad decisions, he is not going to be respected.
Yoro/Lindelof De Ligt/Maguire Martinez/Shaw
Dalot/Mazraoui Mainoo/Eriksen Ugarte/Casemiro Shaw/Malacia/Amass
Diallo/Fernandes Hojlund/Zirkzee Rashford/Garnacho
I honestly think less stress would be put on Shaw’s body as a left sided centre back and back up to Martinez, I’d move Malacia on and offer Davies the world to join us than use Amass as back up or bring Alvaro back from Benfica for the €16 million buy back clause.
I did see we’ve been linked with Quenda at Sporting a lot over the past few days so a right hand side going forward of Diallo, Quenda and Lacey with Antony moved on would be ideal, looking at the squad we’ve got I think 3-4-3 with two inside forwards either side of a main striker is probably the best set up which is perfect for Amorim.
The only left footer we have that could possibly play LWB fit is Antony.
Dalot/Maz can't - we need someone who can hold width playing on their natural foot.
Apart from that, I think our squad is pretty well set up for a 3-4-3.
Dalot/Maz can't - we need someone who can hold width playing on their natural foot.
Apart from that, I think our squad is pretty well set up for a 3-4-3.
Antony revival at WB could be legendary
I think we'll be surprised how much better SOME of these may look under a new manager with a better system. Maybe it's naivety but I do think they are better than what they've shown.
I personally refuse to engulf myself in any tactics applied by Amorim at his current club. I did that with ETH and we know what happened at Utd.
If he is to be the new coach, I wanna assess him based on nothing but fresh information
If he is to be the new coach, I wanna assess him based on nothing but fresh information
Most definitely. Couldn't believe I was seeing predicted XI's with Shaw at left wing back. Not a mission he would ever be fit enough for that role whereas left side of a three at the back would be perfect for him, rotating with Martinez.
Is the sticking point the transfer veto, as it seems to have been with Tuchel?
And you think Anthony “holds width”? When has he done that?
No indication of that. Think Sporting are trying to lineup a replacement before he leaves.