Ruben Amorim | United meet Sporting release clause

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But if we are, that's life of a football club? No team is guaranteed success and if this bloke gets three years and it doesn't work out, what can you say really beyond he was given time and it didn't go as we'd hoped.
Exactly. You’d think our fans would finally start to understand the short cycle life of players and managers in the modern game and stop pining for those in perpetuity
 
so what’s the plan lads ???

What about that guy that said no to Liverpool he must be good ???

Amorim it is
 
Damn!

Obviously I don't know Man United's history as well as most in here but I'm surprised I didn't know he was so young.

If Google and my maths is right then Wilf McGuinness was even younger when he succeeded him at 32 or 33!

Hopefully a bit more like the former than the latter.
 
True, but the tenures of Pep, Klopp and Arteta suggests that we may need to progress with one manager over a longer period. Only Chelsea really gets away with having success and swapping managers constantly.

Pep and Klopp aren't the norm for managers, we should stop trying to recreate it and just play the cards as they currently lie. Arteta has won feck all yet, he's made arsenal compete, but if he can't get his team over the line then it's all for nothing

City prior to Pep swapped managers fairly regularly and got 2 league titles out of mancini and Pellegrini.

All we can ask for from whoever the new manager is for him to progress the team, hopefully to the point where we are title contenders, but if it isn't, leaving the team in a better place than he found it will be good enough.

We are currently a mess and incremental progress is the way to go. I hope amorim can be the man to oversee all those incremental steps, but if he isn't, that's football, we go again and find someone who we think can build on his work further.
 
Yeah Carrick was 40 too, so he was older than Amorim
Carrick looks way younger here:

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Thanks. High pressing oriented too?
From what I've seen his Sporting team close spaces in an organised manner, hence having such high possession by winning the ball back quickly. But I wouldn't equate it to the gegenpressing we've seen from Klopp's teams for example. Is it less extreme and more measured, which probably does suit our team better as they certainly aren't conditioned for such high intensity running.
 
Damn!

Obviously I don't know Man United's history as well as most in here but I'm surprised I didn't know he was so young.
On top of Busby, Crickmer, McGuinness, Sexton were all younger, too.

Chapman the same age.

Hilditch was younger and, like Giggs, a player at the same time.
 
so what’s the plan lads ???

What about that guy that said no to Liverpool he must be good ???

Amorim it is
he also left Sporting towards end of title charge to go and have talks with West Ham
 
What the feck has Ruud done?

We honestly have no idea. It's like when people were saying Carrick and McKenna were useless because they were part of Ole's setup.

Amorim will obviously decide who he wants as part of his coaching setup but having heard Ruud talk about the game I wouldn't be surprised if he likes having him around.
 
True, but the tenures of Pep, Klopp and Arteta suggests that we may need to progress with one manager over a longer period. Only Chelsea really gets away with having success and swapping managers constantly.

You need to give a manager some time, but I think a direction should be evident early on. Just listening to someone talking about Amorim on the radio, he seems to have had early success with his ideas at Braga and then at Sporting.

In my opinion, success leads to longer serving managers, not the other way around. Momentum is a big deal in football - and it seems to apply both when you're doing well and when the wheels come off, when it's hard to turn things around, especially with the pressure put on managers by the press.
 
We honestly have no idea. It's like when people were saying Carrick and McKenna were useless because they were part of Ole's setup.

Amorim will obviously decide who he wants as part of his coaching setup but having heard Ruud talk about the game I wouldn't be surprised if he likes having him around.
People will make any old shit up to support their narrative that we’re toxic and everything is a mess and everyone has to go.

Ruud hasn’t don’t anything apart from have a fight with Ten Hag on the touchline because his game plan was all over the place.
 
The west ham episode is still very weird though. He did come to his senses soon enough but man looked lost for a while once Chelsea rejected him and went with Maresca.
 
3 at back will never work in EPL.
It’s possible to defend with 3-5-3 but you just can’t have an attacking side with that format.

I hope he changes to 4 at back.

Possible to defend with 3 at the back, but impossible to attack with an extra player in midfield and attack.

Impossible even if you add a 12th player.

Never change Caf.
 
Sporting Lisbon have a game tonight. Will he be in the dug out for that?
 
3 at back will never work in EPL.
It’s possible to defend with 3-5-3 but you just can’t have an attacking side with that format.

I hope he changes to 4 at back.
That’s why conte won the league using 3 at the back. It’s actually better to attack like that because you have extra cover at the back which gives more freedom going forward.
 
Pure vibes because it doesn’t work on FIFA. Conte won the league with 3 at the back. It doesn’t have to be a defensive formation, you can still play high up the field.

The 3 at the back discourse stems way way back. English players don't understand 3 at the back football, it's all about the 4, anything else is a disaster.

Steve McLaren wanted to play 3 at the back for England and did. He sent the team sheet up, ITV lined it up as a 3-6-1 or whatever it was at the time and then spent every minute of pundit time criticising the foreign concept that is the 3.

It's why 9 times out of 10 whenever you see a team sheet it's a 4-3-3 or a 4-5-1. You even see it with City sometimes where they will put down a safe formation but then they get on the pitch and the commentator will say so and so actually seems to be playing in Midfield or whatever.

For whatever reason, old hats associate 3 at the back as a back 5, and even worse so that knowledge becomes generational despite the fact that a lot of teams build with 3 at the back in modern football. Southgate has not modernised that opinion either.
 
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