Sorry mate, I read that other answer only latter !@Redfrog you are about an hour late with that, do try to keep up mate!
Ruben Amorim | United meet Sporting release clause
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) are here to give their reaction just hours after the news has broke. Where did it all go wrong for ETH? What's next for United? and what were the highlights?
They also react to United's loss away at West Ham, including a breakdown of that ridiculous VAR decision.
Was Carrick younger? Gotta be close.
Exactly. You’d think our fans would finally start to understand the short cycle life of players and managers in the modern game and stop pining for those in perpetuity
I believe Matt Busby was 36
Isn't Abola the worst of the portuguese sources? I get them all confused, I know their media is full of utter shite though.
I think that's all countries in fairness.
TBF to me I didn't get past the first line of his post.
Damn!
Obviously I don't know Man United's history as well as most in here but I'm surprised I didn't know he was so young.
Pure vibes because it doesn’t work on FIFA. Conte won the league with 3 at the back. It doesn’t have to be a defensive formation, you can still play high up the field.
Oh no, what ever will we do? It’s almost like modern football teams fire under performing managers and United won’t be the only team doing so if that is the case.
true. Just years of Gaitan rumours, I won't forgive.so what’s the plan lads ???
What about that guy that said no to Liverpool he must be good ???
Amorim it is
What about that guy that said no to Liverpool he must be good ???
Amorim it is
If Google and my maths is right then Wilf McGuinness was even younger when he succeeded him at 32 or 33!
Hopefully a bit more like the former than the latter.
Pep and Klopp aren't the norm for managers, we should stop trying to recreate it and just play the cards as they currently lie. Arteta has won feck all yet, he's made arsenal compete, but if he can't get his team over the line then it's all for nothing
City prior to Pep swapped managers fairly regularly and got 2 league titles out of mancini and Pellegrini.
All we can ask for from whoever the new manager is for him to progress the team, hopefully to the point where we are title contenders, but if it isn't, leaving the team in a better place than he found it will be good enough.
We are currently a mess and incremental progress is the way to go. I hope amorim can be the man to oversee all those incremental steps, but if he isn't, that's football, we go again and find someone who we think can build on his work further.
Yeah Carrick was 40 too, so he was older than Amorim
He was here just a few months.
I’m already looking forward to the media headline once we beat our rivals:
“Liverpool get Rim job as United trash them” (get it get it? amoRIM?!)
“Liverpool get Rim job as United trash them” (get it get it? amoRIM?!)
What the feck has Ruud done?
From what I've seen his Sporting team close spaces in an organised manner, hence having such high possession by winning the ball back quickly. But I wouldn't equate it to the gegenpressing we've seen from Klopp's teams for example. Is it less extreme and more measured, which probably does suit our team better as they certainly aren't conditioned for such high intensity running.
On top of Busby, Crickmer, McGuinness, Sexton were all younger, too.
Chapman the same age.
Hilditch was younger and, like Giggs, a player at the same time.
he also left Sporting towards end of title charge to go and have talks with West Ham
We honestly have no idea. It's like when people were saying Carrick and McKenna were useless because they were part of Ole's setup.
Amorim will obviously decide who he wants as part of his coaching setup but having heard Ruud talk about the game I wouldn't be surprised if he likes having him around.
United’s youngest.
Ye. Amorim will be 2nd youngest in the league
Oops, just checked and you're right! I was a decade off!
McKenna is 38. So third.
You need to give a manager some time, but I think a direction should be evident early on. Just listening to someone talking about Amorim on the radio, he seems to have had early success with his ideas at Braga and then at Sporting.
In my opinion, success leads to longer serving managers, not the other way around. Momentum is a big deal in football - and it seems to apply both when you're doing well and when the wheels come off, when it's hard to turn things around, especially with the pressure put on managers by the press.
Was gonna say, I know skin care wasn't a big thing in the 70s but bloody hell!
I'm guessing Wilf was the youngest of the lot?
People will make any old shit up to support their narrative that we’re toxic and everything is a mess and everyone has to go.
Ruud hasn’t don’t anything apart from have a fight with Ten Hag on the touchline because his game plan was all over the place.
Argh of course. Forgot about him.
The west ham episode is still very weird though. He did come to his senses soon enough but man looked lost for a while once Chelsea rejected him and went with Maresca.
Possible to defend with 3 at the back, but impossible to attack with an extra player in midfield and attack.
Impossible even if you add a 12th player.
Never change Caf.
Sporting Lisbon have a game tonight. Will he be in the dug out for that?
That’s why conte won the league using 3 at the back. It’s actually better to attack like that because you have extra cover at the back which gives more freedom going forward.
He’ll be in Manchester tonight you would imagine
The 3 at the back discourse stems way way back. English players don't understand 3 at the back football, it's all about the 4, anything else is a disaster.
Steve McLaren wanted to play 3 at the back for England and did. He sent the team sheet up, ITV lined it up as a 3-6-1 or whatever it was at the time and then spent every minute of pundit time criticising the foreign concept that is the 3.
It's why 9 times out of 10 whenever you see a team sheet it's a 4-3-3 or a 4-5-1. You even see it with City sometimes where they will put down a safe formation but then they get on the pitch and the commentator will say so and so actually seems to be playing in Midfield or whatever.
For whatever reason, old hats associate 3 at the back as a back 5, and even worse so that knowledge becomes generational despite the fact that a lot of teams build with 3 at the back in modern football. Southgate has not modernised that opinion either.