Exactly, we must not forget, and I would assume the majority of United fans haven't, how expert our club/ players are at destroying managers. Will we see a line of players (a la Martial), sit out their contracts and the circus is on repeat, or can Amorim perform a Dr. Frankenstein and shock some life into them ? Here's Hoping.
Ruben Amorim | United meet Sporting release clause
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) are here to give their reaction just hours after the news has broke. Where did it all go wrong for ETH? What's next for United? and what were the highlights?
They also react to United's loss away at West Ham, including a breakdown of that ridiculous VAR decision.
He's got to go blud
But if we are, that's life of a football club? No team is guaranteed success and if this bloke gets three years and it doesn't work out, what can you say really beyond he was given time and it didn't go as we'd hoped.
What 14th? As shite as we've been post Fergie, that is unprecedented
Don't see it personally, most of the fat contracts for hopeless players should be a thing of the past by then, so at the very least the squad will be massively different and we'll be in a completely different place attitude and financial wise.
We haven't even agreed compensation yet. He's still a Sporting manager. He will probably need to apply for a working visa too.
I wonder if he's really wedded to three at the back. From what we hear, the club wants to dictate the style rather than bend to each coach. Could definitely be an option, but somehow can't see us becoming a three at the back side. Guess we will find out.
I'm ready to be hurt again, unfurl the Portuguese flags!
I'd certainly hope so under the new regime. I don't see us watching slop for so long like we suffered with Ten Hag before the plug is pulled.
Not 14th specifically, just looking for a new manager.
Naively the ETH felt right at the time and gave me some hope, which was sort of reinforced during the first season. Now I’m just fully jaded, and basically think any manager will fail here.
So the age and the fact that Frank hasn’t won a trophy with an underdog side without a budget prompts you to compare him to Moyes? I think you forget that managers from small countries have a much longer road to English football and therefore are usually older than their colleagues from Spain, Portugal, Germany and Italy. Frank has a lot more in common with Amorim than with Moyes.
He's old enough to be Jonny Evans' big brother
I for one welcome our new Portuguese overlords.
Ten Hag was the right choice. I don't feel silly for believing in him and thinking he was a great appointment. I don't feel burned to the point of other people who are now seemingly scared of going for young up and coming coaches.
I mean we have 6 centre backs, attacking full backs and hardly any defensive cover in midfield. Seems like our squad is perfectly set up for 3 atb!
We've had two long term managers in our history. It's rare for any club to have a manager who lasts as long as a decade. Of course it's more likely than not we'll be looking for a new manager in 3-5 years. United fans need to look at it from the perspective of what is the norm in sport, rather than from the perspective of a United fan who grew up only knowing United being managed by Ferguson
I don’t even have an opinion on Amorin, to be honest. Will tune in and hope for the best. He and the higher-ups will need to make tough decisions if he is to succeed, though. That’s probably my main concern. Do they have the balls to potentially get rid of the Rashford’s and Bruno’s if necessary?
The only way this bloke is here in 3 years time is because he deserves to be. I feel, or maybe I want to be confident that's the case.
Yet you’ve already decided we’ll be back in the same position in 2-3 years.
Some of you are absolutely miserable.
Most big teams play some variation of 3-2-5 when in possession anyway, so the difference is not as big as it was back in the day. However I do agree that we need to make sure players we get for Amorim would be compatible with future managers too.
So be it. We will eventually find the one to get us back on track. If it's not Amorim, we move on to the next one and the next one if need be. I just hope the guys fetishising over backing the manager at all costs have finally learnt their lesson.
Cape Verde United.
They shouldn't hire him then, they should go for a manager that already plays like they want. It makes no sense to get a manager and tell him to change the style that made him successful.
True, but the tenures of Pep, Klopp and Arteta suggests that we may need to progress with one manager over a longer period. Only Chelsea really gets away with having success and swapping managers constantly.
Here is what going to happen since I just came back from the future. We will get Amorium, then in 2 years he won't be doing well and everyone here is waiting for him to be sacked. Negelsman will be leaving the German national and go to Man City (while we crying for missing on him). Xavi alonso will be one his second year in Madrid doing well. Tuechel doing pretty well in England and rumors will be back again that we are after tuechel also pochetinho as well cause why not since we hear his name every year.
Wheels on the bus go rounds and rounds...
Lisbon fans must be fuming at this, given they are flying in their league.
What if Bruno and Rashford suit the new managers system? I am not a complete expect on his tactics but doesn't he like to have 1 quick player on the LAM position for transitions?
He also likes players in the half spaces? Isnt Bruno one of the best in the attacking half space?
I actually think the player that will benefit most from his system will be Mason Mount, Almorin loves players who can play the bounce football where you play one touch football in the central zones.
That right winger for Ajax looks amazing.
I've been watching a lot of Sportings setup and phases of play. If we can get Amorim in, I think it's gonna be pretty essential that we try and go for Gyokeres and Diomande. But unlike with Ten Hag, I think just those 2 could be the only players that we'd actually need given what we have at our disposal currently. Gyokeres and Hojlund can play the same role but there's a bit more seasoning from Gyokeres, and also a perfect foil for a player like Hojlund who's still only young.
Our Cb options are OK with Yoro, Martinez and De Ligt the likely starters but I think Diomande should be 100% our main target to solidify our options there. The potential with him looks incredible, and adding that to what Yoro offers, we could be set for a while where playing 3 or 2 at the back.
Our Cb options are OK with Yoro, Martinez and De Ligt the likely starters but I think Diomande should be 100% our main target to solidify our options there. The potential with him looks incredible, and adding that to what Yoro offers, we could be set for a while where playing 3 or 2 at the back.
Please don't mention Arteta in the same breath as the other two. He has won less than Ten Hag and I would bet my house on it that it isn't changing anytime soon.
Guardiola and Klopp are probably up their in the top 5/10 managers of all time debate, even before their respective tenures at City and Liverpool. Backing them and giving them time only made sense.
Will he be your youngest ever perm manager?
Isnt Brighton’s manager younger?
By a distance yeah.
Looking for a new manager to pass the baton three seasons after the previous appointment is absolutely normal in the world of football. It's waiting for a coach to last a decade here that's an exercise in futility.
If dyscalculia is a s rife as it seems, it won’t be an issue for most games.
I get those being cautious and feeling like we will be back here again in a couple of years.
We have had 11 years of repeating the cycle of new managers. Whilst you are being a bit pessimistic you're also being honest.
It is what it is, we all just have to hope this is the right man. Being successful as a football club isn't some mythical mystery, it's putting good people in the right positions and making good decisions.
Berrada, Wilcox and Ashworth seem to be rated highly and something that is different from the last 11 years is that this is the first manager who's been chosen by them rather than Ed Woodward and his mates.
If the concern is that he's a similar profile to Ten Hag then honestly we have tried nearly every profile of manager so we could always have that concern. There are also some subtle differences.
He is 15 years younger than Ten Hag, also Ten Hag won the league for the first time after 4 years in Ajax, Amorim has won it for the first time in 19 years at Sporting so you could say he seems slightly more transformative. You can also tell he is obviously a drastically better communicator.
I understand not wanting to get caught out acting like we have found the new Messiah, I've been there and done it too. He does seem exciting though.
We have had 11 years of repeating the cycle of new managers. Whilst you are being a bit pessimistic you're also being honest.
It is what it is, we all just have to hope this is the right man. Being successful as a football club isn't some mythical mystery, it's putting good people in the right positions and making good decisions.
Berrada, Wilcox and Ashworth seem to be rated highly and something that is different from the last 11 years is that this is the first manager who's been chosen by them rather than Ed Woodward and his mates.
If the concern is that he's a similar profile to Ten Hag then honestly we have tried nearly every profile of manager so we could always have that concern. There are also some subtle differences.
He is 15 years younger than Ten Hag, also Ten Hag won the league for the first time after 4 years in Ajax, Amorim has won it for the first time in 19 years at Sporting so you could say he seems slightly more transformative. You can also tell he is obviously a drastically better communicator.
I understand not wanting to get caught out acting like we have found the new Messiah, I've been there and done it too. He does seem exciting though.
This fella is a weirdo
What's that got to do with it?
He misread perm for prem I reckon
He's younger even than Giggs was when he was our interim