Ruben Amorim | United meet Sporting release clause
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Who would have been your preference?
Best choice available to suit our aspirations. Unai would be a close 2nd, but he's more of a safe guarantee us CL manager and the odd cup games. I'm not satisfied with that nor should any of you.
Now that we actually have competent people in charge and our managers aren't making stupid transfer decisions all our managers have to focus on are 3 things:
1. Tactics
2. Player Development
3. Culture
What makes him great is he has a clear style that is highly effective xG differential that doesn't require big money to build. And our squad fits well into it. Even the useless pieces make more sense in his tactics like Antony who's a better inverted RWB than an actual RW. No starting LB, no worries we just need a LCB who can fluidly play as a LB. Wait don't we have someone named Martinez who plays both roles for club and country.
The pieces that don't fit with his style? Casemiro, Erikson, and Rashford. No way, are you telling me he's more likely to not want to play our least effective players? YES!!
We'd only need to sell those 3 and buy a LWB, backup LW, and backup CM and we're all set.
This sounds like a weird idea because already it's sounding like some intelligent thought is being put into our decisions.
The other 2 points are easy, dudes highly charismatic and has developed a ton of young players
Now that we actually have competent people in charge and our managers aren't making stupid transfer decisions all our managers have to focus on are 3 things:
1. Tactics
2. Player Development
3. Culture
What makes him great is he has a clear style that is highly effective xG differential that doesn't require big money to build. And our squad fits well into it. Even the useless pieces make more sense in his tactics like Antony who's a better inverted RWB than an actual RW. No starting LB, no worries we just need a LCB who can fluidly play as a LB. Wait don't we have someone named Martinez who plays both roles for club and country.
The pieces that don't fit with his style? Casemiro, Erikson, and Rashford. No way, are you telling me he's more likely to not want to play our least effective players? YES!!
We'd only need to sell those 3 and buy a LWB, backup LW, and backup CM and we're all set.
This sounds like a weird idea because already it's sounding like some intelligent thought is being put into our decisions.
The other 2 points are easy, dudes highly charismatic and has developed a ton of young players
So you got one out of three. Well done.
Good to have you back mate!
I just hope Amorim has already identified issues with the squad and sought assurances on whom he can move out and told the board what type of signings he'll need if this is not supposed to go another circle of false dawns.
Does Sporting have a good academy? What's his record like for playing youngsters in the first team?
That’s not my point. The only similarity between Haller and Højlund is that they’re both massive. Haller is infinitely closer to a Chris Wood in terms of profile than Højlund. He’s a proper target man, while Højlund is at his best when he’s either running the channels or in behind.
Gyokeres’ playing style is much closer to Højlund’s than Haller’s, hence I think Amorim is better equipped than Ten Hag to get the best out of Rasmus.
What are you talking about? Before Sporting He managed Casa Pia for 4 games and then Braga for 13 games
That was not Braga B. That I think was I the 3rd division of Portugal, well before Braga.
So he managed three clubs, and you said only one. Why are you misrepresenting his career?
Or should I say three roles.
So far, you’ve said he’s managed for less than two and a half years, when it’s actually double that, at five years. And that he had only managed Braga B before his current role. You seem quite desperate to discredit rhe guy by using made up facts.
Anyway, my original post was even though I will be very glad if we sign him, I think it is a massive step-up for him, straight into probably the most difficult managerial job in football
Is this a question??!
Man, it's so good to see you back again! And, yea I agree we need to raise the physicality of this team. I remember you made the same points for ETH as well and we did suffer because of the lack them. We atleast tried to address the athleticism part this summer with the signings of De Ligt and Ugarte and Yoro. I hope we continue in the same way with our recruitment in the future windows as well and target players with the right physical profile at the right age.
He has managed 1 club before sporting. That is Braga for 13 games
Unless you want to count the 4 games he coached at Casa Pia, I'm just going by what Transfermarkt says. Maybe they have got it wrong
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Jokes aside, Figo, CR, Nani, Quaresma, Moutino, Carvalho are some of the recent times graduates. Futre too? older fella. Played in the UK.
The Sporting Academy is probably one of the top 10 academies in the world - if not top 5.
If he is hired, it is interesting to see yet another Portuguese coach replacing a Dutch coach after the latter winning the Fa Cup ,like Mourinho to van Gaal 8 years ago.
Hope we won't end up the same fate of sacking the coach after a disastrous 3rd year.
Hope we won't end up the same fate of sacking the coach after a disastrous 3rd year.
Seems like you’re deliberately looking for a negative on this appointment, to me, halving his managerial years and pointing to coaching licences. You do you, though.
We have gone down the proven managerial road before and where has that gotten us? LVG and Mou are seasoned. ETH had plenty of experience in various countries and worked with Pep ffs and what did he do for us? Who would be your choice?
Would be interested to hear who @UnofficialDevil would prefer we hire
If Amorim signs, I still want the club and Amorim to get rid of Rashford. We still need to replace Shaw and Rashford regardless of who the manager is.
It's one of the top academies in the world mate
Nah. Not true. I am very excited about this appointment, honestly I am. I just said in the first post that it might be too much of a step up for him, based on his CV. I also said I hope not.
You're the one accusing and getting touchy for no reason.
5 at the back? Feck no.
Leave that crap for Seria A. No proper team plays 3-5-2. Not one that will win PL or the CL, anyway.
Leave that crap for Seria A. No proper team plays 3-5-2. Not one that will win PL or the CL, anyway.
My choice is Amorin. I'm pleased with the decision.
My heart tell me to jump for joy but my brain is telling me been here before stats don’t mean shit it’s a results business, time will tell…
Give it a brake will you. What's wrong with you.
Thanks guys @saik
Let's hope collectively they can have a strategy which correlates to a way of playing the game that raises the physical and athletic flooring of the team along with the technical aspects of progressing the ball in confined spaces against the opponent's high pressure tactics.
So if you have a strong base as a team where you're adept at controlling the space with a high volume of players committed in the opponent's half along with strong build up capabilities in possession from the back-line through into deeper midfield. Then the foundation is set (imo) to create a team that is capable of pinning the opposition in their own half with the added ability of controlling the opponent's counter attacks. So it comes down to identifying players with the correct attributes for different phases of play without compromising on the technical aspects of playing the ball forward.
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Okay. It’s just confusing to suggest you feel it could be too much of a step up, but he’s also your favourite choice for the job.
Was a genuine question, because your opinion differed from my own, and I was interested to hear who you would prefer and why.
Conte literally won the league with Chelsea playing that system less than a decade ago.
Tuchel won the CL with Chelsea 3 at the back.
He’s also said to be flexible in his formation and adjusts depending on the personnel at hand. Be interesting to see what he thinks of our bunch!
I don’t really understand this take. The Portuguese league is just not remotely comparable to the PL when it comes to finances. And that is true of every aspect - player wages, manager wages, sponsorship deals, revenues etc.
Conte won the league with that formation.
Tuchel won the CL. Inzaghi made the CL final last year with it.
Chelsea have won both playing 3 at the back in pretty recent history.
I actually think our team is uniquely setup to play 3 at the back with our newly found CB depth. It would give a new lease to someone like Maguire who actually plays really well in a 3.
It also help limit the amount of overhaul our front line needs. We don’t have any decent wingers. The ones we have all like to play narrow which this helps. The biggest gap in that formation would be LWB. We’d need to go for someone like Davies.
It also help limit the amount of overhaul our front line needs. We don’t have any decent wingers. The ones we have all like to play narrow which this helps. The biggest gap in that formation would be LWB. We’d need to go for someone like Davies.
Alonso also dominated the bundesliga playing 3 at the back. It's a nonsense take that 3 at the back is for underdogs or a 'defensive' style of football. In most cases, it's actually used with a progressive, attacking style of football.
People have already mentioned Chelsea, but have a look at how City play, you'd be surprised.
I don’t get people that are hung up playing a 3 in the back formation. Nearly every top team builds out of the back in a 3 at the back formation in modern times. Hell, ETH had us doing it. City do it. Pool do it. It’s very modern. Just because they don’t lineup that way doesn’t mean they don’t use it.
Conte and Tuchel, two of the managers that I'd hate the most seeing at Untied and they both use 3-5-2 and one has fluked a CL win with it. Now I'm convinced.
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