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Ruben Amorim | United meet Sporting release clause
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) are here to give their reaction just hours after the news has broke. Where did it all go wrong for ETH? What's next for United? and what were the highlights?
They also react to United's loss away at West Ham, including a breakdown of that ridiculous VAR decision.
Hey guys it is my first post on this forum despite that I have been reading it on the last few hours, Sporting CP fan here and a long time Manchester United fan since the Eric Cantona days (probably the first non-Portuguese League player I have ever admired) and specially since that epic 2-1 final in Camp Nou against Bayern Munich. While honestly I hope that, somehow, this is not true, I gotta say here that Ruben Amorim is definitely the best pick for Utd as when he arrived to Sporting we were in a similar crisis as Man Utd currently is, with the difference that we had no money whatsoever to sign good players which I believe it is not the case here. He has little to zero tolerance to lack of commitment and his big strength as a coach is to have a locker room that is a focused, united, dedicated group with hunger for wins and for trophies. While he improved a lot on the quality of football, I still believe that team atmosphere management, motivation, etc, its his biggest strength.
This man won two leagues for us in four years and I believe that 99% of our supporters do not remember the last coach who could do such a thing. I have read Sly's posts and they pretty much explained everything very well but I just signed up here to say that if this is the new coach for Man Utd, please support this man and give him time as he is the man for the job. 100%.
Again, I hope this is not true but, if so, I am happy that is for a club like Manchester United and I hope it is the turning point that this club deserves.
P.S: It is pronounced "Roobehn"
This man won two leagues for us in four years and I believe that 99% of our supporters do not remember the last coach who could do such a thing. I have read Sly's posts and they pretty much explained everything very well but I just signed up here to say that if this is the new coach for Man Utd, please support this man and give him time as he is the man for the job. 100%.
Again, I hope this is not true but, if so, I am happy that is for a club like Manchester United and I hope it is the turning point that this club deserves.
P.S: It is pronounced "Roobehn"
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Managers are dirt cheap. If this is the guy they want then they need to stop quibbling over an 8 million quid release clause.
If your prized manager costs the same as a backup goalkeeper do the deal
If your prized manager costs the same as a backup goalkeeper do the deal
Wanted him in United since last summer. I really think that only someone young and energetic can handle this mess
If he is willing to leave Sporting, we shouldn't hesitate
If he is willing to leave Sporting, we shouldn't hesitate
I think you’ve proved my point for me. Take his age out of the equation for a second, he’s achieved very little apart from a league and cup win at Bayern which is the bare minimum that club expects to win each year.
When will this deal be finalised? Tomorrow? I already have my zipper open and I keep pressing the F5 button.
A bit of hope has been the worst thing in recent years, as this team has always pushed you down and brought you back to earth. This time it's different. Isn't it?
A bit of hope has been the worst thing in recent years, as this team has always pushed you down and brought you back to earth. This time it's different. Isn't it?
Don't think a CL semi final with Leipzig is very little to be fair
Amorim can't be buy.
you got itsure, go for it
They do expect to win it, but hist replacement, Tuchel managed to fail to achieve it, so - it is not guaranteed, is it?
Imagine if he came here and two weeks in he says he can't play the style he played at Sporting?
Ah I remember being excited by one of these videos….when we hired ETH. Can’t add links but it’s
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FLZkqQsREFgDo anyone know if Amorim gets his coaches with him?
It’s the Phone!
A beauty of supporting Man United is that we’ll never have to worry about how deep our owners’ pockets are as the club generates so much revenue anyway. We all know Ruben will be spending upwards of net £100m next summer.
As for our current squad, yes, I share your concerns. I can’t shake off the feeling that they’ve hammered the final nail into Erik’s coffin this season. Martinez (Palace away), Casemiro (Liverpool home) and Dalot (West Ham away) amongst others have done inexplicable things that no manager can prevent. That is why there will be a £100m window come the summer as our team desperately needs an overhaul.
Does Amorim has the experience and skills to manage united?
His footballing experiences seems to be contained within Portuguese football and he's also quite young. Maybe want someone young and fiery.
His footballing experiences seems to be contained within Portuguese football and he's also quite young. Maybe want someone young and fiery.
Good news on the speed of appointing new manager, we should keep an open mind about him and judge him on how the team performs.
Woohoo! Let's go.
If he comes in and we start scoring goals, that say alot about the bald headed man and his excuses.
Amorim is a very good choice but it all depends on the recruitment if he is to succeed. The EPL is different challenge and it requires a high level of physical and athletic flooring to succeed to compete with the very best. If you have a high level in that regard then the intensity of your own game will go up levels and will in-turn provide a solid platform for the team's more technically proficient players to thrive. We're not even close to the bench mark in the league in that regard and even teams like Spurs and Villa are much stronger than us when it comes to eating up ground quickly and closing off the space hence their coaching staff have tools at their disposable which allows them to play a more expansive game with a higher intensity which gets the crowd going.
The current Man Utd team is weak when it comes to closing off spaces due to the reasons stated above. And the biggest problem is in midfield where not only do we lack physicality and athleticism but also a creative element. And as good as Eriksen has been in central midfield, we need a higher level of creativity with added dynamism which is missing right now. So Amorim is a good choice but if they carry on mis-diagnozing the problems then it won't be long before a section of the fan base turns on Amorim. Because it doesn't matter how good of a coach you're if you don't have the tools at your disposable to execute your principles on the pitch in a EPL that is very strong both as far as opposition teams and opposing coaching acumen is concerned.
I also think it would great if Amorim could start immediately. It would give him a free pass for the rest of the season to hopefully diagnose the issues. I think there's a real advantage to coming in mid-season which gives you more time to put things right without added pressure.
I don't see the issue with playing 3 at the back generally but it might be a issue with the players we have, so I think he'll compromise. But compromising on a formation doesn't mean you have to compromise on your system of play or principles. It's just a formation.
His tactics are simple and effective where his teams look to build up from the back before transitioning the ball quickly into advanced forward positions. He doesn't like to over play with passes and his players from the back line and midfield look to break lines consistently. There's a few interesting players in the SCP team who look very interesting as far as helping us raise the physical and athletic flooring of the team. And if the long-term plan is to go with a back 3, then I really hope we go for the young Ivorian CB (Diomande) who I think could develop into a really good player with all the physical, athletic and technical qualities for the EPL.
The current Man Utd team is weak when it comes to closing off spaces due to the reasons stated above. And the biggest problem is in midfield where not only do we lack physicality and athleticism but also a creative element. And as good as Eriksen has been in central midfield, we need a higher level of creativity with added dynamism which is missing right now. So Amorim is a good choice but if they carry on mis-diagnozing the problems then it won't be long before a section of the fan base turns on Amorim. Because it doesn't matter how good of a coach you're if you don't have the tools at your disposable to execute your principles on the pitch in a EPL that is very strong both as far as opposition teams and opposing coaching acumen is concerned.
I also think it would great if Amorim could start immediately. It would give him a free pass for the rest of the season to hopefully diagnose the issues. I think there's a real advantage to coming in mid-season which gives you more time to put things right without added pressure.
I don't see the issue with playing 3 at the back generally but it might be a issue with the players we have, so I think he'll compromise. But compromising on a formation doesn't mean you have to compromise on your system of play or principles. It's just a formation.
His tactics are simple and effective where his teams look to build up from the back before transitioning the ball quickly into advanced forward positions. He doesn't like to over play with passes and his players from the back line and midfield look to break lines consistently. There's a few interesting players in the SCP team who look very interesting as far as helping us raise the physical and athletic flooring of the team. And if the long-term plan is to go with a back 3, then I really hope we go for the young Ivorian CB (Diomande) who I think could develop into a really good player with all the physical, athletic and technical qualities for the EPL.
I think this might be too much of a difficult job for him. From 4 years of managing in the Portuguese league to probably the most difficult managerial position in the world.Too much of a step-up.
Obviously, hope I'm wrong.
But a career from Braga to Sporting in 4 years and then to Manchester United does seem a bit steep.
The amount of time Hag was given here is almost the whole of Amorins career as a manager.
Obviously, hope I'm wrong.
But a career from Braga to Sporting in 4 years and then to Manchester United does seem a bit steep.
The amount of time Hag was given here is almost the whole of Amorins career as a manager.
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Pretty sure that isn’t correctWow
He's been Sporting manager since 2020?
And managed two other clubs before that, I believe
Yep he's been a manager since 2018.
What Braga b? And he didnt even have a licence, then apparently got fined
It’s not, that’s what I was remarking on.
He has been a licenced manager since 2020 when he took over Braga
Happy enough with this
Just glad they haven't gone for Southgate
Just glad they haven't gone for Southgate
No, not just Braga B. I mean you’re using the internet, so I assume you know this.
And even by your own metric, it’s four years, not two and a half. Why do you feel the need to post needless negative hyperbole for the sake of it?
We were never interested in Southgate.
He just fits our squad too well and it makes too much sense.
Stop this possesion football shit that everyone seems to crave and let's find the best manager that fits our group of players.
Ugarte will be doing his job, 3 world class CB's, Rashford, Garnacho & Amad playing closer to the centre around Hojlund so the creativity has to come centrally than from out wide and maybe even Antony as a LWB
Stop this possesion football shit that everyone seems to crave and let's find the best manager that fits our group of players.
Ugarte will be doing his job, 3 world class CB's, Rashford, Garnacho & Amad playing closer to the centre around Hojlund so the creativity has to come centrally than from out wide and maybe even Antony as a LWB
He played against (and got battered by) Ten Hag's Ajax, while at Sporting. Twice.
Why do people just confidently state things that are obviously complete bollocks and can be checked in 5 seconds?
I would imagine the salary of the Manchester United manager is not based on what the employee earned at his last job! You seem to have taken quite an issue with this tripling thing without knowing what the numbers even mean. If it takes for him to triple his wages to reach the bracket of what a Manchester United manager earns, then it will be tripled. This isn’t a marketing job with some sort of industry standard 15% pay rise policy. Our manager, and players, will earn significantly more than their Sporting counterparts, and even then, we may be able to afford to pay it far more comfortably than Sporting can afford to pay theirs.
A large part of the attraction of players and staff perfecting their crafts to a level where they can join one of the world’s biggest clubs is because they pay big money. We’re not going to pay him based on Sporting’s salary, just like Sporting would not pay a player we sell to them anywhere near what they were paid here. It’s really such a non-issue.
Alright, I exaggerated a little. I thought to myself, Ten Hag has been here 3 seasons, Amorin has been managing for 4 seasons. Still, it's a massive step-up. He is inexperienced, with just a few years of managing in the Portuguese league.
But I said, I hope I am wrong.