Yagami
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3/5 at the back? Oh, no...
Nothing like going to the other end of the spectrumBetter to get someone out of fashion in really, Alan Curbishley perhaps.
We've signed some very good players from Sporting. Time to do the same with the manager.
Yep, don’t fancy LVG though where we’re controlling the ball with zero penetration.I just hope he’s the first manager we’ve had since probably LVG (?) who values having a midfield and controlling games.
I’m absolutely sick to death of watching every team we play, no matter the level of opposition or result, consistently control games and dominate the ball.
Would love a feedback post from one of our Sporting posters
Look up @Sly’s post. He has been posting all day about this.
Be aware that I'm biased but Amorim will, in my opinion, be one of the top managers in Europe. I've been a Sporting fan for more than 3 decades now and this is the best football I've seen us play without a doubt.
Amorim is a brilliant man manager and very astute tactically. I just love how we play attacking football. I've never seen us play defensively. Probably the reason why City destroyed us. But he is a young manager and he learned from that.
If he ever became United manager, you wouldn't have to worry about defensive boring football. He's completely against that, although he became more pragmatic when facing top, superior opposition. Our goal average in Portugal is 30 scored and only 2 conceded. In the CL we scored 6 and conceded 1. Next two matches against City and Arsenal in the CL will show his real worth.
Which is possible now that we got rid of one Dutchman. We have a vacancy to fill the cheesehead quota.As he likes wingbacks….
Frimpong and Davies in the summer please!
EtH looked like a great appointment too don't forget. Amorim like Ten Hag had success in lesser leagues.
Me? I would at least have sounded out managers who have been a hit in the Prem. Emery might be persuaded. Thomas Frank, I think, deserves a chance. We need to get back to appointing best in class. Whether this is that, well im not sure.
But we will support if finalised.
Apologies for sharing my opinion.What utter nonsense. It's reported he's on a wage of around £2m at the moment so triple that would take him to around what ETH was on. How is that backing ourselves into a corner?
Yep, don’t fancy LVG though where we’re controlling the ball with zero penetration.
No doubt he is one of the most exciting options, sans maybe Nagelsman. But managers are only as good as the squad they get. I have zero confidence in our current squad or in INEOS's ability to dig up any money for AmorimDoesn’t matter, Amorim is only 39. Ten Hag had a much more impressive CV than Pep when Barca hired him in 2008, Arteta, Slot, Maresca, Ange, Howe, Kompany, Terzic, I could go on. I think it’s indisputable that Amorim is a very progressive appointment and one we can all get behind as United fans.
Many times. Want me to @ you every time it happens?Have you ever said anything remotely positive on this forum?
Again you’re harping on this “tripled” wages without even knowing if it’s accurate. Why?
The facts are less important to those who are still upset about the guy who was sacked this morning.What bizarre minutiae to get stuck on. We neither know what he's earning at Sporting, nor what he might be earning at United. What's the point of your outrage?
It is unclear how soon they will be able to get him. Hopefully before the January window, but seems hard to to pull that off. Could be in January or afterHe would have 28/29 EPL matches to try and be successful and the winter transfer window to improve the squad and maybe get a couple of players that suit his style and formation. He would have 5 Europa League games to try and get into the 8 in that league.
Currently in Portugal he has a 72% win rate but how that translates to England and in particular the Premier League, is anybody’s guess, let’s take 15% off and hope he can implement his ideas and maybe achieve a 57% win rate, all hypothetical I Know but that would give him say 16 wins 7 Draws 6 Defeats.
He might finish with 66 Points and that’s definitely 5th to 7th place. If he has a win rate of 61% win rate probably looking at 18 wins 6 draws and 5 defeats so 71 points which is probably 4th to 5th and probably CL football, as you can see they had to act now to give him a chance of achieving something in this season, it also means they have to support him in the January transfer window now too?
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Frimpong and Davies in the summer please!
Not outrage, I’m simply reacting to that particular report but I thought we were putting the stupid Disneyland stuff behind us but hiring someone and immediately tripling their salary smacks very much of the bad old days under Ewar Woowar.What bizarre minutiae to get stuck on. We neither know what he's earning at Sporting, nor what he might be earning at United. What's the point of your outrage?
*Yawn*The facts are less important to those who are still upset about the guy who was sacked this morning.
Money Talks that’s why he’s leaving Mid season and United in Portugal and Spain still represent a big deal.I think he's a really good coach and I would be delighted (and surprised) if he agrees to leave mid-season. The run of fixtures we have coming up is also relatively forgiving for a new manager. Can't help but feel this all could have been resolved much more satisfactorily last summer, though. United never fail to makes things harder for themselves than they need to be.
His most impressive achievement as the underdog team manager was at Leipzig "After finishing top of their group, RB Leipzig reached the Champions League knockout the first time in their history. On 10 March 2020, following Leipzig's 4–0 win against José Mourinho's Tottenham Hotspur, Nagelsmann became the youngest coach ever to win a UEFA Champions League knockout tie.On 13 August, RB Leipzig defeated Spanish side Atlético Madrid 2–1 in the quarter-finals, making Nagelsmann the youngest coach to ever progress to the Champions League semi-finals"Sorry but can someone please enlighten me to what Nagelsmann has achieved in his managerial career that is so incredible?
I understand he started managing very young and did well with Hoffenheim, which rightly earned him a lot of praise. He then did an okay job at Leipzig, but didn’t win anything. He then went to Bayern and did nothing spectacular before getting sacked.
In Amorim’s short spell with Braga he did an incredible job and won them the Portuguese cup. He then rejuvenated Sporting who hadn’t won the league for 20 years, which had been dominated by the more financially powerful Porto and Benfica, with limited resources and regularly selling his best player each year. He’s won the league twice in 4 years with Sporting and is now 9 wins in 9 this year, looking on track to make that 3 in 5 years.
If Nagelsmann had gone on to at least make a genuine title challenge against Bayern at Leipzig, then I’d see something. But he seems incredibly overhyped as a manager based on his actual achievements. Just feels like the epitome of a hipster manager.
Talk sport are saying he could be in charge before or after the Chelsea Game. However he will need players that suit his formation.It is unclear how soon they will be able to get him. Hopefully before the January window, but seems hard to to pull that off. Could be in January or after
Cutting edge journalism! I could have come up with that to be fair.Talk sport are saying he could be in charge before or after the Chelsea Game.
For sure. Would love to see him sooner rather than later, though. No desire to watch Ruud cosplaying Ole for any longer than we have toTalk sport are saying he could be in charge before or after the Chelsea Game. However he will need players that suit his formation.
Same source for the reports of trebling his wages, FYI.Cutting edge journalism! I could have come up with that to be fair.
sure, go for itMany times. Want me to @ you every time it happens?
That might make it a more difficult deal with sporting, also I kind of feel bad for Ruud, hopefully Amorim would evaluate everyone and see what is neededHopefully he brings his coaches with him. Don’t want him to work with current coaches
I know, but ‘before or after the Chelsea game’ is hardly specific is it?Same source for the reports of trebling his wages, FYI.
Well they ruled out we bring him in during the Chelsea game, that's somethingI know, but ‘before or after the Chelsea game’ is hardly specific is it?
It isn't, and it says something about the credibility of the source.I know, but ‘before or after the Chelsea game’ is hardly specific is it?
I’m not sure I can see RVN, Hake, Georgsson and Van Rouwelaar all going just months after being hired. Would be the quickest rebuild in the clubs history, and that’s saying something!Hopefully he brings his coaches with him. Don’t want him to work with current coaches
I'd expect a staggered approach. Him bringing one or two with him when signing, and maybe some more in the summer after working with our staff and assessing themI’m not sure I can see RVN, Hake, Georgsson and Van Rouwelaar all going just months after being hired. Would be the quickest rebuild in the clubs history, and that’s saying something!
I don’t attribute any credibility to TS, it’s just the principle of tripling a guys wage unnecessarily that gripes. And to be fair I didn’t notice it was TS source until it was pointed out.It isn't, and it says something about the credibility of the source.
Well they ruled out we bring him in during the Chelsea game, that's something