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€3.50 ph and all the pastel de nata he can eat from the matchday catering.

No. No I don’t. Why is that relevant?

Because Portugal is a significantly less expensive place to live than the UK.
 
Cause I don’t either. If he is earning €1M then tripling it to €3m isn’t a big deal. If he is earning €5m then tripling to €15m is a big deal. Also we don’t know what exactly is true. Just cause talk sport said he is going to triple his wages doesn’t mean it’s true.
Yeah I get that, but it’s symbolic isn’t it. Not increased wage, not even doubled but more than tripled. Maybe I’m tight, but that doesn’t seem like a suitable way to proceed.
 
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Yoro De Ligt Martinez
Mazraoui Eriksen Ugarte Garnacho
Bruno Mainoo
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Garnacho would be a very, very attacking option at LWB, but with Mazraoui and that back 3 swinging in behind him I think you could make it work. I also think long term, he’ll look for a more deep lying playmaker in beside Ugarte and we’ll see Mainoo used in a more advanced role. Whether or not Eriksen would be suitable for that role I’m not sure.

I’ve read a few comments about our squad not being intelligent enough for his tactics, but I wouldn’t leave Kyle Walker in a room with scissors unsupervised and Jack Grealish licks windows in his spare time, yet Pep played them in a treble winning side.

Ten Hag just never had the charisma or personality to inspire players with the oceans of information he was loading on them. By all accounts, Amorim excels in that regard.

That line up would haemorrhage goals down the left and has virtually no goals in it. Although it's hard to see where the goals come in any setup given the squad we have.
 
Yeah I get that, but it’s symbolic isn’t it. Not increased wage, not even doubled but more than tripled. Maybe I’m tight, but that doesn’t seem like a suitable way to proceed.
No, it's not symbolic. It's just the difference of wealth between the leagues and clubs.
 
No im not. I’m saying tripling his wage is unnecessary at this early stage. We are backing ourselves into a corner financially again. I’d hoped the new people and INEOS would be smarter than that.

He was on £2.15m per year at sporting so if he’s been offered £6.5/7m per year over 5 years it’s £33m, we’ve thrown that away with Antony in the last three years and paid Sancho half that a year for playing for Dortmund and Chelsea in the last 12 months.


In real terms it’s £2/3m less than ETH, £13m less than Pep, £8m less than Arteta, similar to Arnie Slott, £2m more than Enzo Maresca, £1.8m less than Unai Emery,

So in the grand scheme of things it’s more than fare if he produces the goods.

If he wins big at United with in 2/3 years he’ll be offered double that just to keep him from Madrid or Barcelona. Let’s unite and get behind him, let’s hope part of him saying yes was a decent budget in winter transfer and Summer transfer windows.
 
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The main issue with Eth was exactly his inability to put his own stamp on this squad.
He did better until he started to put his stamp on this team..... thats when things went to shit
 
Would be an interesting appointment. I haven't exactly watched much of him, but clearly he's one of the most sought after managers in Europe right now so that had to count for something. Of course, so too was Ten Hag.

I like that fact he's quite young for a coach, so I'd hope that would mean he's very progressive. His stats as a manager are very impressive, as if winning a club their first league title in 19 years.

Sounds like the tactics would be a bit of an adaption, but I'd kill for a bit of exciting attacking football at this point.

Very surprised to see us target a manager under contract at the moment though.
 
Yeah I get that, but it’s symbolic isn’t it. Not increased wage, not even doubled but more than tripled. Maybe I’m tight, but that doesn’t seem like a suitable way to proceed.

Fair Point, but I’m not sure that’s relevant to somebody earning tens of thousands every week. And I’m not saying we shouldn’t increase his wage, but 3 times more seems excessive as a starting point.
Again you’re harping on this “tripled” wages without even knowing if it’s accurate. Why?
 
Wing backs are essential to his system so he'll demand that the club get at least two or three in in the summer. I think he'll want someone faster than Martinez for the LCB role too.
 
Fair Point, but I’m not sure that’s relevant to somebody earning tens of thousands every week. And I’m not saying we shouldn’t increase his wage, but 3 times more seems excessive as a starting point.
What bizarre minutiae to get stuck on. We neither know what he's earning at Sporting, nor what he might be earning at United. What's the point of your outrage?
 
But that’s stupid. You can give him a hefty increase by all means, but to triple his wage immediately seems off. Make him work for it, give him bonuses for achieving targets or pathways to raises etc. but he could come in, fall flat on his face and it won’t matter a joy to him cos he’s guaranteed his millions already.
Those ideals do not really work when there is so much money in football. Actually, those ideals don't work in any normal scenario in terms of talent acquisition; no one's gonna come work for you if you aren't at least paying competitive wages (which I suppose that 3x most likely is given the wage disparity between managers in Portugese league vs EPL), and the more the talent is wanted by others, the more you have to offer.
 
Rojo formed our greatest CB duo with Phil Jones under Mourinho for about 12 games. The bare chested marauder’s legend will never die, no forgiveness is needed.

Premier League strikers still shiver at his twisted reign of injury inflicting terror during that run.
 
I couldn't give a flying feck what formation we play as long as it's effective.

As if the formation is the thing that matters
People have this misconception that 3 at the back = defensive football. This is clearly not the case for a team that has scored something like 130 goals in 38 games
 
Football isn't about sticking to the same tactics and style. Coaches must adapt; play to the strengths of their players.

Your greatest ever manager built his career through constantly adapting system and tactics.

This type of 'philosophy' thinking, is why I feel managers are going backwards in modern football. Pep is successful because he knows City's players suit his style
I don't really agree. I mean, this is exactly what Ten Hag tried to do. He tried to play a mixture of tactics to suit player strengths and it resulted in disjointed nonsense. He tried to build out from the back, press from the front, get into counter attacking situations, and also try to play quick transitions and he ended up doing none of this well.

Pep, on the other hand, got rid of Joe Hart on day 1 because he didn't fit the system. He almost axed Walker because he wanted his fullback to tuck in more. He's consistently prioritized players that have great technique, tactical flexibility, and those who fit the system he has from the ground up and you can see the rewards.
 
3 centre backs doesn't bother me in the slightest. Its everything infront of them that does.
 
He was on £2.15m per year at sporting so if he’s been offered £6.5/7m per year over 5 years it’s £33m, we’ve thrown that away with Antony in the last three years and paid Sancho half that a year for playing for Dortmund and Chelsea in the last 12 months.

If he wins big at United with in 2/3 years he’ll be offered double that just to keep him from Madrid or Barcelona. Let’s unite and get behind him, let’s hope part of him saying yes was a decent budget in winter transfer and Summer transfer windows.

If those numbers are correct, that would slot him in below Pep, Emery, Arteta, Slot and what Ten Hag was on, and slightly above the likes of Dyche and Ange. Seems more than reasonable for the manager of Manchester United to be honest.
 
Would be an interesting appointment. I haven't exactly watched much of him, but clearly he's one of the most sought after managers in Europe right now so that had to count for something. Of course, so too was Ten Hag.

I like that fact he's quite young for a coach, so I'd hope that would mean he's very progressive. His stats as a manager are very impressive, as if winning a club their first league title in 19 years.

Sounds like the tactics would be a bit of an adaption, but I'd kill for a bit of exciting attacking football at this point.

Very surprised to see us target a manager under contract at the moment though.

I suspect City being linked with him if Pep leaves may have pushed us.
 
That line up would haemorrhage goals down the left and has virtually no goals in it. Although it's hard to see where the goals come in any setup given the squad we have.
I don’t really see why it would haemorrhage any more goals than a back 4 with Martinez at LB would. Especially with the greater solidity in midfield that would come with it.
 
3 centre backs doesn't bother me in the slightest. Its everything infront of them that does.
People keep posting teams that are broadly what we're doing now but swapping Rashford for a centre back and I can't help but doubt that is the answer to our goalscoring woes.
 
Yeah I get that, but it’s symbolic isn’t it. Not increased wage, not even doubled but more than tripled. Maybe I’m tight, but that doesn’t seem like a suitable way to proceed.
Also hypothetical, given none of us actually know whether it's true.

And if it is true, it's one of the consequences to giving the previous manager license to run the football club into the ground. We need to learn to act promptly in future if a manager proves himself incapable of leading the football club, else it makes everything harder.
 
Well you all got me real hyped up, so if we dont get him now I'm going to be real disappointed just so you know.
 
Cos this is a discussion forum mate. People share their thoughts and opinions. It’s kinda how the site works.
Wildly speculating based on nothing is an opinion mate. If we agree a salary of say €5m then you say it’s too high that’s a valid opinion.
 
No im not. I’m saying tripling his wage is unnecessary at this early stage. We are backing ourselves into a corner financially again. I’d hoped the new people and INEOS would be smarter than that.
What utter nonsense. It's reported he's on a wage of around £2m at the moment so triple that would take him to around what ETH was on. How is that backing ourselves into a corner?
 
€3.50 ph and all the pastel de nata he can eat from the matchday catering.

No. No I don’t. Why is that relevant?
are you wumming or something? What do you mean 'why is that relevant?'. How can you say we are offering him too much by tripling his wage if you don't even know what he's currently making?
 
I just hope he’s the first manager we’ve had since probably LVG (?) who values having a midfield and controlling games.

I’m absolutely sick to death of watching every team we play, no matter the level of opposition or result, consistently control games and dominate the ball.
 
If those numbers are correct, that would slot him in below Pep, Emery, Arteta, Slot and what Ten Hag was on, and slightly above the likes of Dyche and Ange. Seems more than reasonable for the manager of Manchester United to be honest.
It’s widely reported that his yearly salary is currently €2.5m(£2.15m) so multiplication by 3 is £6.45m, knowing United we’ve probably offered him €8m just so we could report we’ve offered more than triple his current salary and we’ve paid off the current manager and paid his €10m compensation.

Ineos in full spin to show the fans that they have money to invest and turn this current s…show round?
 
No im not. I’m saying tripling his wage is unnecessary at this early stage. We are backing ourselves into a corner financially again. I’d hoped the new people and INEOS would be smarter than that.
I think part of it is the players wages. Manager can't be on any less than 100k a week when we've so many players on way above that.
 
What utter nonsense. It's reported he's on a wage of around £2m at the moment so triple that would take him to around what ETH was on. How is that backing ourselves into a corner?
"The last guy earned 6.5m pounds a year, and we were unhappy with him. We want you to come in and do a better job, and earn less. What do you say?"
 
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