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Ruben Amorim | United meet Sporting release clause
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I would like to think we can get top 6 still and win europa league or at least a domestic cup if he is supposedly a world class coach which is surely why we are employing him over more experienced or tried and tested in a top league manager like a xavi, tuchel, emery
He held talks with other clubs in the summer and had an adjusted release clause for big clubs. So he has clearly maintained his stance that he will leave if an opportunity arises.
Everyone would completely freak out, but to me, if we're a consistent top 4 team and young players are being developed well and new transfers bedding in well, I think it would still be seen as a very positive hiring by sane fans, despite the embarrassment of City stealing him.
It's been a rough decade. If it takes a mercenary to right things, that's fine with me. Easier to get the next manager on board if we're in the situation Arsenal or Liverpool are in and not a mid-table side like we are now, and we need the young talent (one of the strikers, Garnacho, Amad, Mainoo, Yoro and whoever makes the jump from the academy and the next batch of signings) to kick on and guys with say 6-8 years of top level play (right now really just Lisandro, Onana, Mount, De Ligt and Ugarte I guess, since everyone else is older or younger, and I'm assuming no Antony or Rashford renaissance) to get back to their best levels they've shown at previous clubs.
We could easily get top 4. There's a very clear top 3 (not even that clear, Arsenal look wobbly and the wheels could definitely come of Liverpool) and after that it's completely open.
We can still get top four. Seven points at this stage of the season is by no means insurmountable, especially when both Arsenal and Villa seem prone to dropping points this season.
For me, the same expectations as there were from Klopp when he joined Liverpool. The first & foremost is to develop a sustainable style of play in his vision. We need him to build for the long term so that from next summer on as we add more pieces to the puzzle we look like a team that is on it's way to challenge for the big two prizes. I really don't care about short term top 4 or a mickey mouse cup win. We need a style of play and an entertaining one at that. I am sure if he is able to develop that the results will automatically follow.
Results for me at this stage are secondary. Anything he achieves in terms of league results and cup competitions will be a bonus this season.
Keep reading how it sucks for Sporting and how you have to feel sorry for them - didn't they take him from Braga during a season when they appointed him in the first place?
Clubs all up and down the football pyramids are taking players and managers from each other all the time - it only seems to be when it's the teams near the top doing it that people are most vocal about how sad / unfair it is on those losing them. But more often than not, those teams had got them in the first place by taking them from someone lower down the system than them. That's just the way it works.
Clubs all up and down the football pyramids are taking players and managers from each other all the time - it only seems to be when it's the teams near the top doing it that people are most vocal about how sad / unfair it is on those losing them. But more often than not, those teams had got them in the first place by taking them from someone lower down the system than them. That's just the way it works.
Everything we realistically had hopes for at the start of the season is still very much to play for. But with a new coach with new ideas, we’ll see what happens.
What do the 5 coaches that make up Amorin's entourage do?
All I can find is "assistant manager" which is a bit vague
All I can find is "assistant manager" which is a bit vague
What, a psycho murderer? Bit harsh.
I think it’s 3 coaches + sports scientist. One assistant, one GK coach and one to help run coaching sessions prolly.
no chance we make the top 4 with this current squad based on performance level we've seen up to this point....just making sure we get back into european contention would be good
Is it 100% he won't be on the Man United sideline managing the team until after the international break?
looks dead certain
Nothing is 100% right now, but that seems to be the likeliest outcome.
I guess one aspect of it is that Sporting are technically part of the big 3 in Portugal but have been so bad in the past 20 years and their fans have been so starved of success. In comes this guy delivering titles and having them compete against Porto and Benfica, they begin to believe they have him for one more season (and one more title) and he leaves in the middle of it all.
It's a bit sad but yeah football is a ruthless business, they could go hire any manager in Portugal now outside Benfica and Porto and no one will bat an eyelid.
Was hoping he'd be on the sideline next Thursday v PAOK, nothing to do with the fact that I'm making the trip over myself for that game
There was a similar narrative around Southampton a few years ago, particularly when Spurs started doing well under Pochettino.
Articles basically saying they'd been robbed of Champions League football as the big clubs had signed all their best players and hired their manager.
I don't care when he starts, as long as United get him and the whole saga is put to bed, then I'll be happy with that and optimistic for the future.
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Look it up mate. Multiple newspapers and the athletic all reported it.
City isn't nowhere near the stature of United, so I suspect we'd be alright - especially if he does a good job - I'm assuming the implication here is that he would have restored us somewhat - in which case; what would be the point of going to City? And if he did want to go there - with us being in a better position, I don't think we'd struggle attracting any replacement we'd want
big dog, big nuts.
Why would he want to manage in League One?
I'd probably laugh out loud that he'd consider going to such a pitiful little club.
Top 4 is a non-starter, unless a lot of teams above us have a total mare, and knockout competitions all have a degree of luck involved.
Personally I think the most important thing is the performances. He's taking over from a period of nothing football, so if he can implement his style and the fans get to see the imprint, even if its patchy, that will feel like progress.
Would be a shame to change our GK and set piece coach. Both have been much improved this season
Yes because this is the same as moving from United to 115 nothing club
Allegedly, Ruben was told Garna, Hojlund, and Kobie are not for sale, under any circumstances
https://www.sportbible.com/football...orim-premier-league-transfers-736094-20241029
I dont for a second believe this to be credible info. It is clearlt just a speculation of a journalist, however if it were true it would be correct to make youngsters not for sale, and not the likes of Rashford or Bruno
Personally, I think anybody is for sale for the right price and I would only hesitate about Kobie (generational talent) and Yoro (too soon). But I would sell Garna if big offer came and I would sell Hojlund, too. They are not Ronaldo level so they do have a price, just not what anybody would probably pay
Would you not sell Garna for 80-100M GBP?
https://www.sportbible.com/football...orim-premier-league-transfers-736094-20241029
I dont for a second believe this to be credible info. It is clearlt just a speculation of a journalist, however if it were true it would be correct to make youngsters not for sale, and not the likes of Rashford or Bruno
Personally, I think anybody is for sale for the right price and I would only hesitate about Kobie (generational talent) and Yoro (too soon). But I would sell Garna if big offer came and I would sell Hojlund, too. They are not Ronaldo level so they do have a price, just not what anybody would probably pay
Would you not sell Garna for 80-100M GBP?
Sounds about right.
Garna £100m no, £120m just about.... problem is with money other teams will just up their prices when you come to buy, happens to us at the best of times, but if we had just banked £100m+ you know it would be even worse... it is not just the money either it is about keeping the best talent, we should only sell players we don't want or who are desperate to get away
still laughing at "what if he does well with you guys, and Guardiola steps down, and he is offered to replace him mid-season? How would you guys feel?" 
see what happens in just a few years. casuals think City can "little bro" United.
see what happens in just a few years. casuals think City can "little bro" United.
Only if we were guaranteed a good winger & Gyokeres as a result. Currently, Garnacho and Casemiro are basically the only consistent goal threats in our team
They have money and are winning all the time, so I’m sure managers won’t mind managing them.
If they got Pep maybe they could get someone like Amorim as well?
And as much as we want them to be sanctioned, nothing has come out of it yet, and until then they are the current top dog of the Premier League, it’s sad but it’s what it is.
I just want to see a clear style start to show up in our play. We see other managers go into the likes of Burnley or Bournemouth, and within a fortnight they’re knocking it around like Bayern Munich. For whatever reason though, it never works with us. So that would be a start.
Beyond that, top 4 and a trophy is the ideal way to salvage this season. If not both then one or the other. The Europa league is the main one for me.
United are known for being paupers, correct?
Of course managers won't mind managing City, no one's contesting that. Your question however was "what if he does a good job, but eventually Guardiola leaves City and he is offered to replace him mid season, how would United fans feel?" and people are rightly highlighting to you that the scenario doesn't have the equivalence you seem to believe it does. Why would anyone doing a good job at United leave for City?
Well, in that case we might have to unfortunately settle for Pep.still laughing at "what if he does well with you guys, and Guardiola steps down, and he is offered to replace him mid-season? How would you guys feel?"
see what happens in just a few years. casuals think City can "little bro" United.
Because the standards of what is a good season at United seem to have fallen massively.
You see people in this forum saying getting top 4 is great while City are four time champions and are challenging for the champions league every year.
A lot of people were happy with just getting the FA Cup.
Would City fans and the board be happy if that’s all they could do?
I think the expectations are completely different between the two clubs.
Managers and players want to win, and winning at City seems easier, even if it’s by cheating .
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