Ruben Amorim | United meet Sporting release clause

bond19821982 said:
Not really. He has probably the best start you could have asked for

IPS away
EVE home
Bodo home
Arsenal away
Forest home
Viktoria away
City away
Spurs away(efl)
Bournemouth home
Wolves away

Couldn't ask for a better start actually.
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I mean... you definitely could.

Arsenal, City and Spurs away in your first 10 games is horrible. The other fixtures are grand but you could definitely have asked for better.

If they had brought him in during the last international break his first 10 games would've been Brentford, Fenerbace, West Ham, Leicester, Chelsea, PAOK, Leicester, Ipswich, Bodo/Glimt and Everton.
 
diarm said:
I mean... you definitely could.

Arsenal, City and Spurs away in your first 10 games is horrible. The other fixtures are grand but you could definitely have asked for better.

If they had brought him in during the last international break his first 10 games would've been Brentford, Fenerbace, West Ham, Leicester, Chelsea, PAOK, Leicester, Ipswich, Bodo/Glimt and Everton.
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And if we bought him in a year earlier he could have played Luton, Burnley and Sheffield United.
 
The Boy said:
Normally because clubs are appointing managers that have been sacked and are therefore available or the move happens in the summer like Ange to Spurs (though they still paid 5 million compensation) or ETH to United (2.5 million paid to Ajax). Mid season moves for managers who are under contract to another club are quite rare and expensive, when Chelsea did it Brighton for example, they paid over 20 million quid to get Potter and his team immediately rather than wait.
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Agree with the first part, that's true that many appointments are either out of work managers or happen over the summer. I wouldn't say though that mid season ones are quite rare. There's so many managerial changes that there's still plenty of mid season ones as well.

In the last few weeks there's been a little triangle of moves - Carlisle took MK Dons manager, MK Dons took Crawley's manager, Crawley took Gateshead's manager. All left straight away as is the norm. Though I appreciate that's all between (lower league) English clubs and this practice seems to be more of a Portuguese one. But that's also what I was meaning - if it 'works so well for all parties' you'd think you'd see it done more often in mid season deals here?

Personally, I'm not surprised you don't see it often happen and it seems weird to keep all parties in a bit of limbo for a few weeks. Hopefully Ruud will prove effective as an interim manager and our players will give their all for a manager they know is only there for a few games. And likewise, from Sporting's point of view, hopefully Amorim's imminent departure won't be a distraction and see a decline in morale from their players.
 
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Ra is giving the pre press conference of the next sporting game and he just said that he will talk tomorrow after the game about the possible transfer to here. Now he doesn't want to talk because he wants the squad to focus on the Amadora game.
 


Amorim does not confirm the agreement reached with United, justifying it with the game against Estrela:"I'll leave it until the end of the game. I'll talk about all these issues. Everything will be clearer. Talking now is just another destabilization for the squad.""The focus at the moment is Estrela da Amadora."
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Leeuw said:
Ra is giving the pre press conference of the next sporting game and he just said that he will talk tomorrow after the game about the possible transfer to here. Now he doesn't want to talk because he wants the squad to focus on the Amadora game.
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Thanks
 
Now the journalists ask that they saw that he was nervous the other press conference and he says because he doesn't like when he can't say all what he wants to say. He likes to be open in his communication and he couldn't do that. And that was it.
 
Cassidy said:
Imaging losing your manager 10 games into the season when you have won every game, too right they are fuming. The players must also be fuming too
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Hopefully he gets us on a winning streak. He should at least make us more solid at the back. He wouldn’t have liked seeing us to open against Leicester
 
UnsungHero said:
Has this situation happened before? A manager working out a 3 game notice period in the middle of a season, before going to manage elsewhere?
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Certainly don't remember it ever happening before for any British side appointing a manager - even foreign appointments. Maybe it happens more in Portugal?
 
Gordon S said:
The initial feeling is that he is leagues above EtH in that area.
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Yeh there was the rumour that Spurs didn’t go for ETH because of his lack of charisma. After his first season it seemed like a bit of a joke and now after his whole tenure it seems like they made an astute decision.
 
macheda14 said:
Yeh there was the rumour that Spurs didn’t go for ETH because of his lack of charisma. After his first season it seemed like a bit of a joke and now after his whole tenure it seems like they made an astute decision.
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Spurs went for Nuno. If they didn’t think ETH had any charisma what do you make of Nuno?
 
Interesting that he is bringing so many coaches with him. Not surprising, but I wonder what happens to our cadre of coaches now. Especially those that just joined. People like Hake. Harsh on them. I’m sure they’ll be well compensated and it’s the nature of the game. Still harsh. Specifically Hake, RVN, Jorgensen, and ten Rouwelar.
 
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simonhch said:
Interesting that he is bringing so many coaches with him. Not surprising, but I wonder what happens to our cadre of coaches now. Especially those that just joined. People like Hake. Harsh on them. I’m sure they’ll be well compensated and it’s the nature of the game. Still harsh.
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bond19821982 said:
Not really. He has probably the best start you could have asked for

IPS away
EVE home
Bodo home
Arsenal away
Forest home
Viktoria away
City away
Spurs away(efl)
Bournemouth home
Wolves away

Couldn't ask for a better start actually.
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Arsenal, city and spurs away.....not sure how that qualifies as 'best start you could have asked for'?!
 
diarm said:
I mean... you definitely could.

Arsenal, City and Spurs away in your first 10 games is horrible. The other fixtures are grand but you could definitely have asked for better.

If they had brought him in during the last international break his first 10 games would've been Brentford, Fenerbace, West Ham, Leicester, Chelsea, PAOK, Leicester, Ipswich, Bodo/Glimt and Everton.
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Might be me but I want to see him have those games too. It will give us a chance to see any improvements in the team straight away.

I am glad its not just all games he must win because a new manager always needs to be face a challenge in the first few games.
 
romufc said:
Might be me but I want to see him have those games too. It will give us a chance to see any improvements in the team straight away.

I am glad its not just all games he must win because a new manager always needs to be face a challenge in the first few games.
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Me too. I just don't think that qualifies as "you couldn't ask for a better start".
 
This guy did a good job, with a few mistakes in important games that the fans forgave. At the end of last season, he travelled to London without the club's management knowing at a the turning point of the season. He was caught by journalists at the airport and apologised to the players and fans. At the end of last season the fans knew he could leave and they accepted it. He enjoyed fuelling that mystery. At the start of the season the club gave him everything, kept the best players even though there were millionaire bids, and he kept saying that the aim would be to win the Portuguese league again. Suddenly he's leaving. He hasn't honoured what he said and most of the fans are disappointed in him and the players too. May he be lucky, but he has sold his honour for money. We want him to leave the club as soon as possible.
 
MadDogg said:
We actually did get a bit of a new manager bounce with both of them.

Rangnick only lost one of his first 13 league games, and two of his first 16. There were almost as many draws in there as wins so it's not like he was doing amazing, but it was far better than how things had been going under Ole (who had lost five and won one of his last seven league games). It just gets overlooked because of how bad it ended with Rangnick with 5 losses in his last 8.

ETH took us to our second highest point tally since Fergie retired and won the Carling Cup, before it then all went bad.

Obviously neither were as spectacular as the Ole interim period, but in terms of coming in and improving things quite quickly they both did a job.
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Aw, come on. We played awful under Rangnick! And Ten Hag's first two games were loses!

I'm talking an immediate bounce. With Rangnick we got it for one half and then in the second half we played the way we would for the rest of his time; absolutely boring!
 
Amorim move still not definitive, he seems to be on the fence. Ruud and Hake might be leaving through the Southgate.
 
It’s sad for Sporting fans but he seems to have given them a lot of great times, naturally wants to take the next step in his career and they’re getting compensated for it. Tough situation but hopefully they move on from it well enough.
 
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