Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach

Kayla40TS said:
Unless Ruben Amorim's instructions to his players are to go out on the pitch with NO fight, NO backbone, NO technique, and NO fecking balls then I fail to see how he is the issue. These players are absolutely dire. Okay. Fine. You can't complete a simple five uyard pass, Zirkzee. At least put your head down and put in a shift. Hojlund and Zirkzee are the worst two strikers we've had since Bellion. It's a day off for Tarkowski and Branthwaite. They can't have had an easier half of football all season. Casemiro is a football terrorist that should never see the pitch again. Maguire is so weak it makes me sick to my stomach. At this point, bin every single player.

If they sack Ruben Amorim at this point then there's no hope for this club. These shite players will have been through yet another manager without showing they are anything other than mid-table quality, at best, and it will be six months before whoever replaces Amorim is fecked over by the players.
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It's the job of the manager to motivate the players and get the best out of them. Football is literally a confidence sport.

Amorim has done nothing at all to be the only hope for the club. What does it need to take to consider he might not be a top class manager.
 
Anyone (Amorim included) trying to downplay the importance of a formation is talking out of their hole.

This isn’t just about playing principles, 343 means we have to start 3 crap centre backs at the expense of a player in midfield, it means we have to play 2 holding DMs even though we barely have one. It means we’re either playing fullbacks who can’t attack out wide or wingers who can’t defend.

It means we have players out of position all over the park, it means promising players like Mainoo and Garnacho are suddenly looking like spare parts and were reliant on dogshite like Casemiro and Zirkzee.

The players get blamed for absolutely everything (anything to excuse Ruben) but I honestly feel sorry for them having to figure out how to make this nonsense work for a totally inflexible manager who is hanging them out to dry.

I absolutely maintain any decent manager should be able to flex their set-up and get the best out of what’s available to them, and it’s absurd that so many of our own fans let alone Ruben are happy to see us slide towards the relegation spots just so we can play one specific formation.

It’d be different if there was any hint whatsoever of things starting to click but it’s totally absent, we look dreadful and are getting worse.
 
DevilRed said:
Under Ruud was probably the most enjoyable time I've had this entire season.

Just a simple 4-3-3 with attacking intent.

We weren't going to win the league but by feck we might have challenged for top 5. Not this shit we are mired in right now.
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Keeping Ruud would of been the logical decision, especially when it worked well with Ole in the past.
 
What will it take for this stubborn idiot to realise playing 5 defenders with two CDMs doesn't work with our squad? Yeah, we'll still lose games under 4-3-3 or 4-3-2-1 but at least we won't look utterly pathetic every single game without fashioning a single chance of note. I'd be surprised if we finished above 16th at this rate.
 
Red Rash said:
I completely understand those fans who say Amorim is tactically inflexible, I completely understand those who point to the number of losses since he's joined and I completely understand those who say the performances are terrible.

But honestly even replacing him does nothing. This group of players were terrible under Ten Hag and they are now terrible under Amorim. They completely lack physicality, effort, aggression, concentration and tecnical ability.

We need to find a way to get to the summer and replace at least half the squad. Considering the amount we've spent and wages these players are on, our squad is a joke.
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We are broke.

Why are people still talking about massive squad overhauls?
 
We've got worse with more time on the training pitch.
I really want him to succeed but I am worried he may not even last the season.
Would we spend in the summer to get more players in to more suit his style, when there is a definite chance they'd still be no improvement?
 
Aretak said:
He's doing worse than the previous guy, who was also shite. Ten Hag has still won over 50% of the points in the league this season (15/29) despite being sacked in October. There are levels of shite and Amorim is plumbing new depths.
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We’re gonna end up in a situation where the only reason Amorim doesn’t get United relegated is because of the points ETH picked up.

Strange world.
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
Yep, we absolutely blame the guy who is getting miles worse results than the previous guy with the same players.
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But performances under ETH were pretty bad as well so what are the odds that this is just the continuation of an ongoing trend. The system switch is surely adding additional friction but that bunch wasn't a functional for quite some time
 
ole@thewheel said:
I don’t see how anyone thought he could come in after a third of the season have passed, with an entirely different approach to the game, and expect immediate results.

For all the talk about the quality of players, beyond that, they just look extremely confused right now. I know people will say, “They’re professionals,” but football is a game of fine margins these days. One defensive lapse due to an inconsistent tactical approach, and the entire game plan falls apart.

We all knew that extending ETH in the summer was a bad idea, but sacking him deep into the season and bringing in a manager with a completely different system is turning out to be even worse.
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The problem, is our board are always late on their decisions.

Winning the FA cup delayed the Ten Hag decision, meaning we were again playing catch up when forced to sack him in the autumn.

Getting Amorim in then appeared genius as it seemed to get us ahead of schedule and not waste half a season with an interim.

Instead, we're still wasting half a season, unless anyone really thinks we're developing and getting used to this style.

I think the smart money has to be that by next season we'll be back to a more standard 4-3-3. It's whether it's under a new manager is the only debate.
 
Ciddy said:
Look at it this way. If his name was Southgate or Ole would people still be saying back the manager with this form? No way. They be demanding them to be sacked.
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I think Southgate and Ole are just as good coaches as Amorim at this point. Ole would probably do well in the Portuguese league.
 
evil_geko said:
Good time for you to do some actual calculations before saying something that is literally impossible.
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Ah yeah the delusional top red with another clueless take. Is there a contractual agreement where utd cant get relegated? Maybe in your delusional world
 
He's an eejit for leaving a perfectly good high flying Sporting team for this shitshow halfway through the season. I don't think any manager wants to be near this club now if they value their career.
 
Amorim needs to get a grip, because his demeanor , whining and complaining is reflecting upon the team. What's the matter with him? Doesn't he want the job?

All he does is state what everyone knew, and knows. So just get a grip for the rest of the season. Because this is just rubbish.
 
He's definitely the worst manager the club has hired from a performance perspective with the first team. It's an absolute travesty what's happening week to week.

He might have promise but I'd comfortably say 80% of the managers in the league are comfortably better than him even 90%.
 
Oh also anyone still blaming Ten Hag get a fecking grip - he might have had a terrible eye for a signing but Amorim has shown absolutely nothing so far to suggest he is more capable of managing this club.

Even what looked to be a strength early on (his “charisma”) now comes across like a man totally out of his depth who has no clue about how to manage the media and protect his players.
 
Man-United said:
We last played 4-4-2 under sir Alex. Go back to that. Miss the old football
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Because our strikers are so great. Or our midfield options. Or the wingers. And fullbacks. Just switch the system, everything will be better because... doesn't matter, just do it
 
I just hope he will throw some bottles at the pitch side to show some frustration instead of walk left and right showing clueless.
 
sugar_kane said:
Anyone (Amorim included) trying to downplay the importance of a formation is talking out of their hole.

This isn’t just about playing principles, 343 means we have to start 3 crap centre backs at the expense of a player in midfield, it means we have to play 2 holding DMs even though we barely have one. It means we’re either playing fullbacks who can’t attack out wide or wingers who can’t defend.

It means we have players out of position all over the park, it means promising players like Mainoo and Garnacho are suddenly looking like spare parts and were reliant on dogshite like Casemiro and Zirkzee.

The players get blamed for absolutely everything (anything to excuse Ruben) but I honestly feel sorry for them having to figure out how to make this nonsense work for a totally inflexible manager who is hanging them out to dry.

I absolutely maintain any decent manager should be able to flex their set-up and get the best out of what’s available to them, and it’s absurd that so many of our own fans let alone Ruben are happy to see us slide towards the relegation spots just so we can play one specific formation.

It’d be different if there was any hint whatsoever of things starting to click but it’s totally absent, we look dreadful and are getting worse.
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Great post.

Insane that so many people still can’t see it.
 
Eugenius said:
It's the job of the manager to motivate the players and get the best out of them. Football is literally a confidence sport.

Amorim has done nothing at all to be the only hope for the club. What does it need to take to consider he might not be a top class manager.
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He may not be a top class manager. He may be the worst manager the premier league has ever seen.

But there's no hope with the current squad of players regardless of who is in charge. May as well stick with a guy that was the brightest managerial talent in Europe four months ago, imo.
 
Licha-Vidic said:
Nope. Its you who made the claim, playing without fans made us win more games. My question is does this only apply to Manchester United? Playing field is even. We won more games in opposition ground.
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The claim I made was that winning away is less impressive without fans, since fans are what create home advantage / away disadvantage.

In other words, going unbeaten away in 2024 or 2019 is much more impressive than going unbeaten away in 2021.

You're putting words in my mouth trying to compare results to other clubs.
 
Genuinely feel for the manager. I have stood by the concept that Ineos have given him a free hit this season, but at this point, I think they might sack him if we go out of the cups. I would drop half of this side and play the kids, we have another season of Maguire and Casimero …. I thought it couldn’t get worse
 
If we haven't got the money to sack him then can whoever is in charge please at least give him a slap and tell him to tweak these awful tactics? Something has to happen other than just shrugging our shoulders and accepting that these abhorrent results are the new normal.
 
Players are getting worse under him and in his system. The club doesn't have the money to replace the players, this can't go on much further.
 
Jeffthered said:
Amorim needs to get a grip, because his demeanor , whining and complaining is reflecting upon the team. What's the matter with him? Doesn't he want the job?

All he does is state what everyone knew, and nows. So just get a grip for the rest of the season. Because this is just rubbish.
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I agree
 
NZT-One said:
Because our strikers are so great. Or our midfield options. Or the wingers. And fullbacks. Just switch the system, everything will be better because... doesn't matter, just do it
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Wait, I know how we can score more goals. Play 5 defenders. Throw in two defensive midfielders too.
 
Widow said:
We asked for a complete reset, this is what it looks like. He needs his players before we get to judge him fully. Accept the short term pain
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Football doesn’t work like that. He can’t just snap his fingers in July 2025 and be like “okay let’s start completely fresh” — if you want a long term “trust the process” gimmick you need signposts that illustrate some level of faith. There’s no improvement in players, in our style of football. No underlying stats to suggest we’re being coached well but it’s player quality letting us down. It’s just all… shite.

Unless he wins a cup I really struggle to see what changes next year.
 
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