Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach

Ragnick did to be fair - 4222 is essentially just a modern fancy name for 442.
It isn't. 4222 is a decades old system (for example Brazil used it) and it is different from a 4222 as it uses 4 central midfielders and leaves the wings to the fullbacks. Of course players move, so in reality the difference isn't huge but it exists.

Nonetheless the single player on the wing makes the 4222 the most similar to Amorim's 3421 - just replace a striker with a CB.
 
What are your expectations right now though? Just PL survival? Every manager has the same issues, this forum said the same thing re signings after every manager. There has to be some onus to a head coach to, well, coach.
Considering the circumstances since he has come into the club; mid season, team doing terribly, no money to spend in January, toxic dressing room

the expectations I had for him were learn about the demands of PL football, learn about which players can be relied on and who crumbles under pressure and have some performances where we can see his footballing vision.

so far the league results have been terrible but he did get a win away to City and we played better than the scousers at Anfield. The cup results have been good. If I was to grade his performance so far it'd be a C. About as expected with the frauds we have as players.
 
It isn't. 4222 is a decades old system (for example Brazil used it) and it is different from a 4222 as it uses 4 central midfielders and leaves the wings to the fullbacks. Of course players move, so in reality the difference isn't huge but it exists.

Nonetheless the single player on the wing makes the 4222 the most similar to Amorim's 3421 - just replace a striker with a CB.
It doesn’t. Hence the personnel ragnick used in the roles.
Edit (and literally every single coach who has used it, this isn’t ragnick specific).
 
Considering the circumstances since he has come into the club; mid season, team doing terribly, no money to spend in January, toxic dressing room

the expectations I had for him were learn about the demands of PL football, learn about which players can be relied on and who crumbles under pressure and have some performances where we can see his footballing vision.

so far the league results have been terrible but he did get a win away to City and we played better than the scousers at Anfield. The cup results have been good. If I was to grade his performance so far it'd be a C. About as expected with the frauds we have as players.

Relegation form and a C and people talk of standards christ
 
Man Utd's last open-play goal in a 1st half came against Forest on Nov 7th. Only creating 0.04 xG in first half today. Why do we start games so slowly?

Today's draw, the win v Southampton, and the win v Leicester were all appalling until about the 70th minute, when we finally upped the intensity.

Because we start with 5 pure defenders, we offer absolutely nothing going forward. Only after doing some substitution is when we start to attack. But Amorim will start the same back 5 against Ipswich
Its not just starting with 5 defenders. Inter start with 5 defenders all the time and are one of the most progressive teams in Europe. Its that at every point in time, two of the defenders are absolute cowards on the ball. Maguire and Dalot. Taking an age to make a decision and then subsequently making the wrong or cowardly decision nearly every time. Yet they are somehow undroppable!!! Even when all defenders are fit. Complete madness.
 
Exactly, Iraola is who they should have gone for. It’s not too late for them to undo their mistake and get him. But they won’t, he’ll go to Spurs and we will sack Amorim within three months of the new season.
Then Iraola will flop at Spurs, be gone within a year and we will all forget him and move on to the latest manager. I don’t hear everyone clamouring for DiZerbi anymore (the once shoe-in to take over from Pep).
 
Its not just starting with 5 defenders. Inter start with 5 defenders all the time and are one of the most progressive teams in Europe. Its that at every point in time, two of the defenders are absolute cowards on the ball. Maguire and Dalot. Taking an age to make a decision and then subsequently making the wrong or cowardly decision nearly every time. Yet they are somehow undroppable!!! Even when all defenders are fit. Complete madness.
Probably Inter are progressive because of the opponents. Opposition in Itay is incomparable to EPL. Lukaku and McSauce are doing wonders in Italy.

In EPL playing with 8 defensive players will be like driving a car with handbrake on.. you will move but marginally, in distress and in limp mode.

We have zero attacking power
1. In players available, this is accepted.
2. By how we set-up. This is exactly on Amorim feet.
 
People keep forgetting that we have some very poor players in key positions and that makes any manager's job 10 times harder. We have a goal keeper that is almost guaranteed to gift your opponents a goal every game, so you're starting games 1 down at least, a centre half in Harry that's also guaranteed to have a howler every other game, strikers that don't score goals, so when the keeper and defender give away a goal, you're unlikely and recover.. Yes
There is no ship to steady here. The ship has holes in it that can't be plugged right now. We have no strikers of any discernable goalscoring quality. We have questionable centre mids and a right back. Our left back has been here for three games (and wouldn't you know, looks good), our best centre back this year looked today like he'd never seen a football before, our goalkeeper chucks the ball in his own net and if he manages to avoid that, chucks it at the oppositions feet so they can do it for him. What exactly do you want with this?

The only players in this squad that I categorically wouldn't sell is Amad, Bruno, Dorgu, Mainoo and Yoro. Yoro has been injured half the year and is 19 years old, Amad is out the rest of this year and is still young at 22. Mainoo is out for another 2 months and is 19 years old, Dorgu has played 225 minutes of English football and is 20 years old. Bruno is doing his best impression of the best player at school who has to play out of position in centre mid because he has to be involved in everything for this team to function at all. I ask again, what exactly do you think any manager can do with this?

It is madness to go after the manager here, he is categorically not THE problem.
Brilliantly put.. People keep missing these points.. Pickford, Tarkowsky, Branthwaite, Dacoure, and Beto would walk in to our team.
 
It's easy to frame things this way. The hard part is to actually do it. Pretty much every serious clubs wants technical and athletic players. Everyone wants a midfielder who is very athletic but also creative or a great ball winner or whatever, defenders who are quick, etc. Clubs don't set out to buy lumbering defenders and technically incompetent midfielders.

In reality you have to compromise. You may only get a few sub-qualities for certain, and hope the rest can be developed or are sufficient at their current level. That's where the dilemma of 'rigid system' comes from. Can your system accept those player compromises?
My point being people are saying that if we buy players to suit HIS system we’ll be wedded to players that can only play a 3-4-3.

When in reality the type of players he wants would be perfectly suited to any type of system.
 
At the end of the day, he's not doing good enough. You'd expect your new manager to at least be doing slightly better than the one he replaced, yet we're looking all the worse.

Mind-boggling lineup's and tactics, dreadful in every aspect of the game, inability to score from open play etc... issues keep mounting.

You can't invest heavy bucks in a manager that hasn't proven he's at least able to marginally improve with what he's working with. As things stand whole squad would need an overhaul, with the only exceptions being Ugarte and Amad.
 
What are your expectations right now though? Just PL survival? Every manager has the same issues, this forum said the same thing re signings after every manager. There has to be some onus to a head coach to, well, coach.
I expect an improvement in our style of play and results as time passes, who wouldn't? However, I will apply some mitigating context to the current underperformance due to the circumstances of Amorim's situation stemming from taking over our dysfunctional cohort mid-season (the details of which has been repeated ad nauseum). People making blanket statements like "a top manager would improve any team immediately" are either just purposely ignoring nuance/context or just plain ignorant.

We are not getting anywhere substantial in the league even if we won 10 in a row now, so yes, as long as we are not literally facing relegation, or getting trounced 7-0 by teams, I will just wait till he gets a preseason and some transfers. Progressing in the EL and FA Cup (or winning them, eh miracles happen) will be great bonuses but really not be the determining factor. I get that managing Man Utd comes with different expectations or scrutiny, but writing any manager off, what more one that was just 3mths ago among the top upcoming young managers in Europe, after 3 months is ultra-reactionary.

I see people posting about Iraola like he was some messiah, but if he came to Utd and got the results he did at Bournemouth in his first 3 months (1W, 7L in his first 11 PL games incl. a 6-1 loss to City), our fanbase would have eaten him alive too. He would never have been given the time that he got to build a functioning team in his vision. And Iraola doesnt even have the Portuguese League title to his name.
 
Having Keane and Scholes would allow us to control the build up at a much higher level hence having more of the ball which would allow us to play the game in the opponent's half. Keane on his own would also improve us significantly as far as controlling the defensive transitions alongside the CBs which would give more leeway to the wingers to stay higher up the pitch. And when you have players who can progress the ball from the back and into midfield at a good level, it allows more players to commit themselves into the opponent's half.

This team doesn't have the players who can do that hence we just don't create enough chanes against teams who are settled in their tactical shape and have to rely on quick transitions.

If the aim is to create a system of play with the aim to control the game in a dominant fashion then the backline and midfield have to be able to control the game in-possession at a high level with a high level of vertical passing threat along with the ability to control the game out of possession against the transition in a higher defensive line. We can't do this and the biggest issue imo is the midfield, and a system of play cannot develop without having the correct components within the aforementioned positions.

To control the build up play we need a team not just Scholes and Keane. To control defensive transition at much higher level, we don’t just need CBs who can play high line and Roy Keane. We need a team that doesn’t give possession cheaply. In summary, we can have van Dijk, Saliba, Gabriel, Keane, and Scholes, but it becomes not effective and will eventually putting us into risk of getting attack from counter if we have Hojlund and Zirkzee who constantly keep giving the possession away cheaply.

While I agree the big issue is midfield and defense, our attackers like Hojlund and Zirkzee who constantly giving away the possession are also a big issue. The whole team doesn’t know how to keep possession.
 
My point being people are saying that if we buy players to suit HIS system we’ll be wedded to players that can only play a 3-4-3.

When in reality the type of players he wants would be perfectly suited to any type of system.

It's kind of true outside of wingbacks. The ideal CBs, AMs, CMS and strikers for a 343 are the ones that you would prioritize for a 4231 or 441, it's the kind of players that Simeone tries to stockpile but even then there is a lot of adaptation done by Simeone because no two players are fully interchangeable. You can't use Tiago and Gabi the way you use Saul and Koke, or De Paul and Llorente, all six of these players are versatile in the roles you can use them, they allow lots of combinations but they are not interchangeable to the point where you don't make fairly big adjustments. But these players(high level jacks of all trades) aren't actually that common, it's somewhat paradoxical because they are not truly elite so you would think that they are everywhere but in reality they box-to-box, side-to-side high level players are few and far between.

That's where coaching is key, you need managers that understand team structures and how to work around players features in order to get a similar outcome that fits their core principles.
 
Its not just starting with 5 defenders. Inter start with 5 defenders all the time and are one of the most progressive teams in Europe. Its that at every point in time, two of the defenders are absolute cowards on the ball. Maguire and Dalot. Taking an age to make a decision and then subsequently making the wrong or cowardly decision nearly every time. Yet they are somehow undroppable!!! Even when all defenders are fit. Complete madness.

Two of the defenders are cowards.....when Martinez is in the same thing happens. Even Dorgu who put in some decent crosses didn't really set the world on fire. None of the defenders, whether poor on the ball like De Ligt or good on the ball like Maguire or Martinez, none have proper options to pass to. Same with the wingbacks no matter who you put there. If you get the same outcome regardless of the players playing there then its less the players and more the setup. All across the pitch players are isolated with huge gaps and very few passing lanes.
 
Exactly, Iraola is who they should have gone for. It’s not too late for them to undo their mistake and get him. But they won’t, he’ll go to Spurs and we will sack Amorim within three months of the new season.

What exactly has Iraola done that’s so lauded? He’s a good coach I agree, but it took him ages to get going at Bournemouth and was nearly sacked after taking 10 games to get a win.

If we had Iraola instead of Amorim you’d all be slating him and asking why we didn’t take the punt on the fantastic young coach from Sporting.
 
Last season's finish has also been addressed dozens of times in this thread, if you think we were good value for that 8th place then, again, I can't help you.

You say it's been addressed as if it's fact, it's just an opinion that now suits a narrative. The largely general consensus for us performing very poorly last season but still finishing 8th despite Ten Hag nonsense ball/injuries was individual quality continually bailing us out in matches. Not that the quality of the squad dropped 10 places over the summer in 2023.

I don't remember anyone at the time saying ''Actually guys the quality of our squad has dropped from top 5-6 to bottom half because we sold Henderson, Bailly, Fred, Elanga, Telles and bought Mount, Onana and Hojlund'' :confused:
 
What exactly has Iraola done that’s so lauded? He’s a good coach I agree, but it took him ages to get going at Bournemouth and was nearly sacked after taking 10 games to get a win.

If we had Iraola instead of Amorim you’d all be slating him and asking why we didn’t take the punt on the fantastic young coach from Sporting.
I have said many times that it is at least 80% on the players, but at least Iraola knows the PL and is not playing an unfamiliar system which no top club is using.
 
I’m not predicting the future. Just correcting your error.

I had seen that he did start vs Liverpool. Will you forgive me for not checking the starting line-up of a match that kicked-off 25 minutes before I made that post mate?

I take it you're not a Rashford fan then?

:lol:
 
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A win on Wednesday should pretty much end the talks of relegation, so we can go all in on Europa.

However without Amad and Martinez I don't think we can win it unfortunately.
There should never have been any talk of relegation in the first place. It was never happening. I don't know why our own fans were willing it to happen.
 
What exactly has Iraola done that’s so lauded? He’s a good coach I agree, but it took him ages to get going at Bournemouth and was nearly sacked after taking 10 games to get a win.

If we had Iraola instead of Amorim you’d all be slating him and asking why we didn’t take the punt on the fantastic young coach from Sporting.

Well he’s got over that hurdle now and he’s set up a team playing good football with high intensity in a league we have to play in.

So unless Amorim gets it right by the time the season is up I don’t see why we can’t use current evidence to move on from Amorim and get Iraola. It’s not like we would need to change our whole transfer strategy to do it. Dorgu can still play left back, right wing or wing back if Iraola decides to go with a back 3 again.
 
To the bolded part - Really? So if Amorim gets a couple of wins in the next few weeks (not hard to do, we might get lucky or improve), and we get up to 10th, you'll stop posting this drivel and start supporting him? Also - I like how people are trying their best to discredit him now by lengthening his time here - 3 months, 4 months, 5 months now :lol: He joined mid-Nov and played his first game against Ipswich Nov 24th, so he's been here 90+ days, while we languished in 13th and this included the crazy Christmas/NY schedules so I'm not sure what you're expecting in those 3+ months. Sure, we could have got a bit luckier with the new manager bounce but that probablygot used up with Ruud already.

Blaming the winter window on him while we have management with no money to spend is quite the take. Are you saying Amorim should have spent his own money to buy players?

Well doh?

Off course winning the last 5 match matters. It's elite football

And yes if he can get 15 pts more he has shown he got what it takes I'd gladly support him

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Well he’s got over that hurdle now and he’s set up a team playing good football with high intensity in a league we have to play in.

So unless Amorim gets it right by the time the season is up I don’t see why we can’t use current evidence to move on from Amorim and get Iraola. It’s not like we would need to change our whole transfer strategy to do it. Dorgu can still play left back, right wing or wing back if Iraola decides to go with a back 3 again.
You wouldn't have the patience for Iraola to sort us out either.
 
This walking bollocks is such a fantasy and I don’t know why so many fans have such a hard-on for it.

No self respecting manager is going to walk because it is “too hard” and essentially give up. You’d be a laughing stock within your managerial circle for throwing it away when the going gets tough and you’d be throwing away a financial pay off.

It simply does not happen
But there HAVE been cases in history when a broken manager, realising its simply not going to work, also feeling the pressure is affecting their mental and physicall well being, would walk without any (or way less than entitled to if sacked) pay off.

There´ve also been instances where a rutless, nasty, sinister suits behind the scenes would force a man at the helm to quit, making Rubens position untenable, just to avoid a big severance package.

So the only two questions remain. 1. Are Brailsford and Jimmy Brexit so sinister as they have appeared so far, going by their cruel actions, to launch a nasty campaign agaist their manager. 2. Is Ruben such a honest, (too) nice of a character as he appears, to admit this mess of a club is too big for him to sort out so he walks (at best negotiating a little pay off for himself and his crew).

With ETH, I had no doubt he was never going to walk. Those catastrophic runs woulldnt even appear to visibly affect him as much as other United managers past Sir Alex. I bet Erik would have not walked even if beaten by Liverpool by double diggits instead of 7:0, repeating the same old sh*te before and after every game when he realized being a dead man walking.

True that Amorim would lose millions if calling it a day but he has already earned more at United than he would have in two full seasons managing Sporting. So money wise, he´s already "ahead of schedule" if you get my grift.
 
I expect an improvement in our style of play and results as time passes, who wouldn't? However, I will apply some mitigating context to the current underperformance due to the circumstances of Amorim's situation stemming from taking over our dysfunctional cohort mid-season (the details of which has been repeated ad nauseum). People making blanket statements like "a top manager would improve any team immediately" are either just purposely ignoring nuance/context or just plain ignorant.

We are not getting anywhere substantial in the league even if we won 10 in a row now, so yes, as long as we are not literally facing relegation, or getting trounced 7-0 by teams, I will just wait till he gets a preseason and some transfers. Progressing in the EL and FA Cup (or winning them, eh miracles happen) will be great bonuses but really not be the determining factor. I get that managing Man Utd comes with different expectations or scrutiny, but writing any manager off, what more one that was just 3mths ago among the top upcoming young managers in Europe, after 3 months is ultra-reactionary.

I see people posting about Iraola like he was some messiah, but if he came to Utd and got the results he did at Bournemouth in his first 3 months (1W, 7L in his first 11 PL games incl. a 6-1 loss to City), our fanbase would have eaten him alive too. He would never have been given the time that he got to build a functioning team in his vision. And Iraola doesnt even have the Portuguese League title to his name.
So this season, let’s forget the cups (agreed would be incredible if we could win one but let’s see, if he can pick one up I think it alleviates a lot of the concern/buys him a little time even without a good style of play) and look at the PL.

If we continue as we are re performances until the end of the season which means we’ll be like 16th-14th you would then think you’ve seen enough and want him sacked, or you wouldn’t mind and just ignore it and bank on pre season? Bearing in mind it’s not like we can go out and buy him 3-4 elite players. Is that enough time to see improvements?
 
Man Utd's last open-play goal in a 1st half came against Forest on Nov 7th. Only creating 0.04 xG in first half today. Why do we start games so slowly?

Today's draw, the win v Southampton, and the win v Leicester were all appalling until about the 70th minute, when we finally upped the intensity.

Because we start with 5 pure defenders, we offer absolutely nothing going forward. Only after doing some substitution is when we start to attack. But Amorim will start the same back 5 against Ipswich
1 penalty to show for the 1st half in the last 17 games. That’s absolutely disgraceful from everyone involved.
 
No I wouldn’t. If it’s going to take you longer than 2 months to gain momentum here. This job isn’t for you. Don’t waste our time or limited finances.
2 and half years of Ten Hag destruction and everything before it is never going to be undone in 2 months. 2 years maybe.
 
Considering the circumstances since he has come into the club; mid season, team doing terribly, no money to spend in January, toxic dressing room

the expectations I had for him were learn about the demands of PL football, learn about which players can be relied on and who crumbles under pressure and have some performances where we can see his footballing vision.

so far the league results have been terrible but he did get a win away to City and we played better than the scousers at Anfield. The cup results have been good. If I was to grade his performance so far it'd be a C. About as expected with the frauds we have as players.
We were good versus City, we were categorically not better than Pool by literally any stat but, let’s ignore that. Cups we will see, the reality is we can play like crap and win one or play like United in 08 and still lose one. We’ll just have to see where that goes.

PL form only, what will it take for you to lose faith this season? It just seems people are so bought into him being good, they refuse to accept he might not be.

For example, I am fully willing to see him here next year (I like him broadly speaking) but we have to see something in this latter end of the season surely? We’re getting soundly beaten most weeks as it stands. That has to stop before the end of the season and we have to put some good performances together or I think he’s too high risk.
 
Ah so Iraola is the new flavour of the month manager. No doubt had we somehow gotten Iraola instead, end up in the same situation, people would be clammering for Amorim.

Now he is.. after 10 games last season people said he was looking at the sack.

Last year it was Ange....

Before that it was that lad at Brighton..
 
I see people posting about Iraola like he was some messiah, but if he came to Utd and got the results he did at Bournemouth in his first 3 months (1W, 7L in his first 11 PL games incl. a 6-1 loss to City), our fanbase would have eaten him alive too.
What exactly has Iraola done that’s so lauded? He’s a good coach I agree, but it took him ages to get going at Bournemouth and was nearly sacked after taking 10 games to get a win.
Iraola's early record at Bournemouth was not good, yes.

But it's all relative. He was managing Bournemouth, who had only been promoted for one season, in which they had finished 15th. That season included a period of 1 win in 13 matches (10 to 22), a 9-0 defeat to Liverpool, and the 4 final games were consecutive defeats. The form itself was concerning but not far out of the ordinary for a club of this level.
 
We were good versus City, we were categorically not better than Pool by literally any stat but, let’s ignore that. Cups we will see, the reality is we can play like crap and win one or play like United in 08 and still lose one. We’ll just have to see where that goes.

PL form only, what will it take for you to lose faith this season? It just seems people are so bought into him being good, they refuse to accept he might not be.

For example, I am fully willing to see him here next year (I like him broadly speaking) but we have to see something in this latter end of the season surely? We’re getting soundly beaten most weeks as it stands. That has to stop before the end of the season and we have to put some good performances together or I think he’s too high risk.
Okay perhaps I'm remembering the Liverpool game wrong. I agree cups are more random but the context of the league form matters. The players know they aren't getting into Europe and not getting relegated. There is not much apart from personal pride ( which most of them lack= see the 7-0 for an example ) on the line.

I blame Ineos more than Amorim for putting him into a situation where they know the players can't play his style of football but also that he only has one style of football.

So to answer your question honestly I'm giving him a free hit till the end of the season. Until he gets a window and signs 3-4 players there is no point judging him because these players clearly don't have the physical mental or tactical attributes for high level football. That doesn't mean things like playing Maguire and MDL together in a back three or a Casemiro Eriksen midfield pairing can't be judged as poor decisions. I'm not saying he is the guy to take us to the next level but until he is given a proper chance it's silly to wait him fired now. Next season he will be under real pressure to improve significantly and if he makes it to the second full season he will be expected to challenge.
 
One positive thing from him so far is that his subs generally have a good impact on the game, we tend to immediately look better once they're made.

He just needs to start making them after 2 minutes rather than 45-60!
 
Keane and Scholes would massively improve this team. This is a team that can't build play vertically though midfield and with Keane and Scholes we'd actually have a midfield that have the ability to be central options for the GK and backline to pass into midfield and hence the midfielders having the ability to provide a vertical passing threat of a high level without compromising on ball retention. We currently have backwards and sideways merchants in midfield and hence too much responsibility is being placed on the backline to progress the ball forward.

And if you as a team are one dimensional as far as progressing the ball from the back is concerned, then you will struggle in the EPL and it will definitely affect the attacking players from having the platform to play to their potential.
I think the players are either :
1. Not confident enough to play vertical passes, or
2. Not good enough to execute the pass.

What we see from Everton is that they are on a winning streak, their confidence is high and it was evident in how they execute their passes. And while they not always make them, they have enough physicality and intensity to win the ball back, which also added to their confidence.

I think we have the players to execute these passes, maybe not as good as Keane and Scholes, but I think much better than what they're showing right now. But they're scared to take that risk, and that was compounded by the fact they don't have the attributes to winning the ball back

I don't know how feasible this is but perhaps Amorim could compromise a bit to at least get these players confidence up so they can execute these passes.
 
Okay perhaps I'm remembering the Liverpool game wrong. I agree cups are more random but the context of the league form matters. The players know they aren't getting into Europe and not getting relegated. There is not much apart from personal pride ( which most of them lack= see the 7-0 for an example ) on the line.

I blame Ineos more than Amorim for putting him into a situation where they know the players can't play his style of football but also that he only has one style of football.

So to answer your question honestly I'm giving him a free hit till the end of the season. Until he gets a window and signs 3-4 players there is no point judging him because these players clearly don't have the physical mental or tactical attributes for high level football. That doesn't mean things like playing Maguire and MDL together in a back three or a Casemiro Eriksen midfield pairing can't be judged as poor decisions. I'm not saying he is the guy to take us to the next level but until he is given a proper chance it's silly to wait him fired now. Next season he will be under real pressure to improve significantly and if he makes it to the second full season he will be expected to challenge.
Its like groundhog day. ETH fans said, he needs his players, we spend £600m on something like 15 players, and we're even worse. Amorim, only has one fixed system and needs specialist players or more training time. He gets more training time, we are worse and then half the team are injured. A really good manager can improve what he has. Amorim and ETH have failed miserably in that regard.
 
The whole point of a new manager is to do better than the last one or why change, save me from this it'll be better next year nonsense no one knows and we've all used the same reasoning for all the post SAF managera
This year was already fecked thanks to ETH. Unless the difference between 9th and 14th, which will end up being 3-6 points is so traumatic to fans that they want the guy sacked before he's even been given a fair chance.

We hired a manager who only plays one formation and people want him sacked before he can even implement his formation properly. It's madness.
 
but it isn't... sometimes a player comes on (usually Garno) and makes things look a bit better, but Amorim has admitted he's not going to change. But, hey, maybe all the pundits and ex-players are wrong and you are right
I think he cleared that little bit at the press before Everton. He is said he won’t compromise on the way he sees football but it does not mean he is not adapting.