Ottmar Hitzfeld then at Bayern and immensely succesfull once said: At a club like this I am never more than four losses in a row from being sacked. This was a manager that had won the CL and titles with Dortmund and Bayern. Amorim cannot be safe anymore. He shouldn´t be. This is getting embarrassing on another level.
Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
- Thread starter sewey89
- Start date
I will ask you again, which games do you see us winning? We are getting relegated.
You're making a completely different argument here. Why don't teams go unbeaten at home every season? Idk, because teams lose games here and there. That's obviously not the point I was making.
My point is that "unbeaten away" is a less impressive feat in a season when "away" isn't really "away" in the same sense.
The hilarious thing with Southgate was that he would "Only" keep us top 6.
We'd bloody love top 6 right now.
All we're hoping for, based on zero evidence, is that this system will eventually bring much higher rewards than that Southgate ceiling.
It is the same song and dance with every new manager. Fans say we will not blindly trust a new man, but every time we get a new manager and the fans get this sheep mentality to blindly hope that the new manager is the one to magically turn us around even though the results and performances say otherwise.
The players are crap but the manager is somehow making them collectively worse.
The only good performing player on the pitch is the one signed by Amorim...
Who would have guessed? Someone good at their job was right. But Jim knows better anyway
Based on what?
There is a real possibility if we don't beat Ipswich next week.
He absolutely was notwhat?
He was Man City’s CEO
So you know, exactly what Ruud did?
We will get dragged into it, but we will have enough.
Give over, man. The squad’s not great but you’re acting like he’s been given a bunch of national league part time plumbers.
Nothing about the squad merits 9 PL losses in the last 13 matches.
Nail on head.
Can't see him lasting until the end of the season. Can't believe I'm even saying this but these constant losses are making his job untenable.
He isn't going to budge on his style of play, the club knew this prior to hiring him, it's on them now to deliver in the Summer window, it will be a big indicator of where we are heading with Ruben.
If he doesn't get at least four players in I am expecting to see the same shit again next season. Four players doesn't fix this either, it's going to take another two or three windows where you see massive wholesale changes.
If he doesn't get at least four players in I am expecting to see the same shit again next season. Four players doesn't fix this either, it's going to take another two or three windows where you see massive wholesale changes.
We only need to win about 3 games to stay up, such is the points gap, and such is the crapness of the bottom teams. Southampton are gone, and 2 of Leicester, Wolves and Ipswich won't win 7/8 of their last games.
We'll beat Ipswich, Wolves and West Ham at home. Probably lose most of the others, with a couple of draws.
Good post and especially agree with this bit, sadly.
That's not even remotely true though
Look at the faces of these players as they walk off the pitch. Do they even give a shit about being humiliated like this? Just fecking strolling off the pitch as if this is just business as usual.
God I fecking hate them.
God I fecking hate them.
My expectations are so incredibly low right now. I'd settle for us scoring a goal or two in a match. That'd be progress and "reward" for me.
We've done even worse than under ETH in his final months. Incredible.
Gutted at the way this season has gone.
He can thank ETH for keeping him in a job with all those points from early in the season.
Based on making an England side very hard to beat.
We are the easiest side to beat in Europes top 5 leagues at the moment.
It's worrying times.
A few £25m humble signings like Dorgu really aren't going to get us very far.
Especially if we're also having to ship an Amad or Mainoo to fund them.
Who's available right now?
Zidane will never come. Poch? Would Nanglesman leave Germany?
Zidane will never come. Poch? Would Nanglesman leave Germany?
Yep. It’s a managers main job to make a team better than the sum of its parts. Anything less than that means they aren’t performing.
It’s been a disaster but the players are truly pathetic and when he is inevitably sacked his successor is going to face all the same problems unless they have a lot of new players.
We are the weakest and slowest team in the league and that’s why even an average team like Wverton can overwhelm us. Dorgu stands out because he can actually run and doesn’t get pushed off the ball every time he gets it.
It’s going to get increasingly likely Amorim goes before next season but that’s probably 15-20m to get rid plus another 10m for a successor. I’d rather that goes on new players.
We are the weakest and slowest team in the league and that’s why even an average team like Wverton can overwhelm us. Dorgu stands out because he can actually run and doesn’t get pushed off the ball every time he gets it.
It’s going to get increasingly likely Amorim goes before next season but that’s probably 15-20m to get rid plus another 10m for a successor. I’d rather that goes on new players.
An absolutely disastrous appointment. This is the worst i have ever seen us.
Yeah this guy needs to go
Also worrying is that you could sense an "end days" vibe during the last few games of the Ole, Mourinho and ETH reigns. It was very distinct and noticeable, even if not too easy to describe. The team looked lost, nobody was trying, results got worse and worse etc.
I don't know about you, but I'm getting that vibe now as strong as ever.
I don't know about you, but I'm getting that vibe now as strong as ever.
You are finding excuses to not blame the manager for the performances we see on the field.
Everton were relegation candidates when Moyes took over, yet 5 weeks later they have a better squad than us? It’s the same narrative pushed for every out of depth manager we get. The only difference is the current manager is showing us his (in)competence much much earlier than his predecessors.
United aren't getting relegated when Ipswich, Leicester, and Southampton exist. These teams are even worse than United.
The club is done at any kind of top level with any manager unfortunately. You all need to accept that the club will never be back to fighting at the top level.
No money and the clubs continual slide will mean less sponsorship money and other income going forward, the clubs going to be a mid to lower level PL team for years.
There is really no way back.
No money and the clubs continual slide will mean less sponsorship money and other income going forward, the clubs going to be a mid to lower level PL team for years.
There is really no way back.
Made a crap team 10x worse
You sure about that?
Literally every single one of you crying right now will be crying exactly the same way when these players feck the next manager over.
It does if they can’t play a system that they’ve never used after already having shattered confidence from the previous disaster! Should’ve kept it simple for the rest of the season and hired him then. Absolute disaster
Would anyone take mourinho back short term? 18 month contract?
We're regressing at this point.
Game going badly as predicted, and some people still want to blame Amorim. This is a decade of horrendous decision making unfolding before our eyes, yet people want to blame the guy who's only been here 5 minutes.