We've completely fecked this recruitment for a manager. He's nkt bad but he's also not improving the sqaud in any way whatsoever. This formation doesn't suit the PL I think. I think he should go back to Sporting, I'm sure they'd love him back and go back to being very solid under him. I don't believe he's a good fit for us. This wasn't just a few weeks. Weve completely fallen apart and it's not his fault.
Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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No the guy you are quoting is right... it's Amorims fault the players are not scoring the chances that they are creating thanks to a system Amorim setup to get the players in those positions. He just put a voodoo spell on them infront of goal.
That’s why he wanted to come next summer when he could implement his system pre season and perhaps add 3-4 players to help him
It’s yet another fecking ridiculous decision by INEOS
I've never seen a worst organised season than this one from the moment they won the FA Cup, Ineos' much-hyped think tank are nearly making Woodward look good.
This. We've learned that expensive lesson the hard way, multiple times.
I keep saying we need to give him time and back him but if he does fail and that’s highly likely now, the club needs to be looking at only Premier League proven coaches who have all overachieved with limited funds and resources?
There’s at least 3 outstanding Candidates in EPL, Raiola (Bournemouth), M Silva(Fulham) and Emery (Villa)!
There’s no need for knee jerk reaction just yet, Ruben needs to find some points in the next two games and he needs 4 points from those next two PL games just to give him some breathing space.
Very cowardly of Amorim for not giving the youngsters any minutes . Love him but he’s not adapting his players , or himself to premiership . Nothing tells me he’s the man for the job . All we fans want is improvement nothing else so we have hope for future .
He will be gone in a few weeks if we get knocked out of both cups.
I can see Everton beating us next weekend. What excuse will there be? Everton have a better squad?
Giving up a 12 points swing to Wolves and Ipswich is easily done when you can’t score. We’ve still to play both. Lose to Everton and the. Ipswich, I would say momentum takes us down. Amorin hasn’t shown he can make it work and needs to walk away - he won’t though.
Not sure how we managed to get 10 points (city away, Fulham away, Liverpool away and Everton home). If we had those fixtures coming next, we would be relegated.
Emery has been backed, an wouldn't leave Villa anyway.
Do you really think it's unreasonable to ask for the specifics? I very much doubt that those managers brought on multiple teenagers that had never played a senior game before in a difficult away match that they were losing. Although, I'm unsure so I'm asking for examples.
I'm at a loss. Don't know what to say anymore. Cas should have come off at half. Rasmus at the 60 min mark. Woeful.
Unfortunately that's the reality in life. Instead of fans being united and try and force change at the club, we just bicker and fight among ourselves while the owners stand by having a right old laugh at us.
I agree, we had the right manager and right structure then, no other major club would have a bench like we had today, embarrassing
Which is down to ETH and the geniuses who kept him on. The money wasted last summer in signings and then having to pay the manager and Ashworth off. That money could have gone someway to starting the rebuild for Amorim, instead they made the rebuild more comprehensive.
That won't happen I don't think, he's basically painted himself into a corner with saying he won't compromise his formation. Ok, if he thinks that will benefit us long term fine. But he will have to have this team flying out of the blocks from the first few games next season or sacrificing this season will look like folly.
The fact that it worked at Sporting does not mean it will work at a struggling Man Utd club. His system may even be disastrous at Liverpool, Bayern or Barcelona, who the hell knows until he tries it?
The reality is we are that far off to where we should be, that I don't see what can change so we can at least approach our long term goals.
Agreed about the midseason thing. He could have said no.
I am sure they would fail too. We are a mess and looking back, every single manager has failed badly. We need to change big things
According to some on here they do.
Maybe Moyes is a better manager in the PL right now.
As owners you reap what you sow.
Amorim is a young coach with zero experience in English Football, who plays a different system to the one United played when he joined.
Embrace the chaos.
Amorim is a young coach with zero experience in English Football, who plays a different system to the one United played when he joined.
Embrace the chaos.
On the other hand, he could easily have subbed in the youngsters and have ready made excuses for the loss. It also is an easy way to get the fans onside by playing the youth.
I actually think it was quite brave of him to resist the temptation. He did what he believed was the best for the team in the circumstances. Whether it was or it wasn’t is up for debate.
You are losing the game. Why not try something different for the last 10 minutes? For example, switch to 4-3-3, again for the last 10 minutes only. SAF sometimes played with 3 or 4 strikers in the last few minutes, if he was desperate to get a goal.
I understand that his formation is 3-4-3, and we were told that he is a stubborn manager. However, now I am also worried that actually he is an inflexible manager who cannot find solutions when his main plan isn't working.
I understand that his formation is 3-4-3, and we were told that he is a stubborn manager. However, now I am also worried that actually he is an inflexible manager who cannot find solutions when his main plan isn't working.
You always manage to cheer me up.
You've hit the back of the net with this one!
.......wish we could do the same on the pitch.
It wouldn't surprise me if a lot on here didn't watch the game and are just overreacting based on the result and the loss.
only criticism for me were the subs, would be nice to see Amorim to play the youth longer but it also did looked like we could have gotten a goal, sometimes subs could also kill a momentum so there's also that.
But once we went 1-0 down, I thought game over. Our forwards are so shocking in terms of goals, that's just the reality.
Exactly. He gave up on Rashford far too early.
At the top of the table a 12 point swing is easily done but not so much down at the bottom. They've got 17 points from 25 games, it's highly unlikely they'll get 12 in 13 games.
I don’t think it was expected to go this badly but he was brought in early to start building for next season. You don’t pay all that money for someone otherwise.
We want to offload lots of players for football and financial reasons, knew there wouldn’t be money to spend and everyone knows the players are pretty poor. I don’t think the club were expecting miracles but emphasis was on next season.
The flip side is it’s going so badly that it maybe undermines the longer term plan and causes a rethink.
He could but, if the press are to be believed, the chance to manage United would have been irrevocably lost.
I'm a blast at funerals and motorway pile ups as well.You always manage to cheer me up.
He's certainly playing with the deck stacked against him, but for me he is under achieving right now.
Get a manager in mid season to come an play a completely different system with crap players.
What's the worst that can happen...
People saying he should be sacked?
How are we paying that off please.
We are in for a rough few months.
Europe is our only route now.
Win that and unbelievably we are in the champs league.
We don't deserve it though.
What's the worst that can happen...
People saying he should be sacked?
How are we paying that off please.
We are in for a rough few months.
Europe is our only route now.
Win that and unbelievably we are in the champs league.
We don't deserve it though.
Even if we go out of the cups I can see the club giving him until next season just like they did with Ten Hag.
Starting with the leeches. Their criminal mismanagement of this great club is the root cause of all the ills.
So I looked it up as to if he ever played a different formation at Sporting as many on here want him to change tactics.....AI Overview said............."He's also used a 3-4-2-1 formation and a 3-5-2 formation."
No. That's one thing he's got right