Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach

He's testing Berrada and Wilcox. I've never been big on 5 at the back and so far I've only been confirmed in why.
 
I have not seen a United manager commit such cowardice for a long while. At least with the likes of Ole, his final nails in the coffin included trying to go toe to toe with Liverpool and City because he believed that’s what we were about. That was just pathetic against the 2nd most pathetic team in the league this season.

Backed him all the way, and have even criticised club legends for speaking against him, but they might be right.
 
MikeUpNorth said:
I think senior management need to step in now and set him a (private) ultimatum. 8 points minimum from the next five league games.

Fulham (a)
Palace (h)
Spurs (a)
Everton (a)
Ipswich (h)
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3 points from the first three games. Not good.
 
Abhinav said:
Pray tell, how does he do that?
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Leaves all the kids on the bench just so he can make excuses about injuries... Just give the kids a chance, they can't be any worse! At least they might bring some energy. If he gave the youth 10 - 15 minutes he can at least say he gave it everything, but he chose cowardice.

Some of the best moments in the recent history of the club have come from chucking academy lads in at the deep end and letting them swim. Instead he let Casemiro and Hojlund continue to stink out the place, as they have all season, and signalled to the academy lads that they won't get a chance under him EVEN IF there's literally no-one left.
 
The midfield Ten Hag left is a disaster. We're in big trouble if it's not addressed in the summer.
 
talking robot said:
Totally agree. This has nothing to do with Amorim. These players are overpaid, under motivated and crap, and have been for a long time. No way this is on Amorim.
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Why not this is nothing to do with him, if they are not motivated he can to test young players, dalot for full season is rubbish but still he is the one always selected. We were on this kind of situation during Van Gal period. He try to gave chance for Rashford even if, all world doubts about him. Amorim not brave enough to put young players. Besides, what is the idea he was talking about the begining.
 
Lentwood said:
Correct. Many people who said they were willing to put up with "pain" have already crumbled. Most of them crumbled a month ago.
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You put up with it when you see slight improvements week on week. We have gone backwards and are getting worse and worse.

How is next season going to be any better with this stupid system? We don’t have a budget big enough to make this system work.
 
I'm terrified but I think he is done. I back him as I think he has been given the worst hand possible.

However, this won't get better before the summer. By then he will have lost whatever faith the club, players and many fans have in him. Once that faith is gone, he can't turn it around.
 
UnitedSofa said:
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I agree with the sentiment but here's the issue. We don't have the money to buy him a brand new starting 11 in one window and even if we did, it feels like a stupid gamble unless he can show something in the 6 months he has before the summer.

The bar he had to jump over was set so low but he's still managing to trip over the damn thing. I wasn't expecting much but thought he might manage a top half finish. Now I'm not sure we get top 15.
 
UnitedSofa said:
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Get the system ready for who? If the acceptance is that the squad can't play this style, we need to sell to replace, and we have no money... What's the pain for? The same players next season?

It's all well and good saying this in theory, but the reality is we don't have the cheque book to fill the system, and every loss equals less money from the league.
 
Never been more disgusted by a United manager post Fergie than today, absolute cowardliness by not bringing on anyone one of those players beside the token 3 minutes at the end, even if he brought Lindelof on for Dalot it would've been something. What good is it for Chido banging in goals every week in the 18's if he's not given a chance he's clearly too good for that level

Our academy is truly the last remaining connection this club has with fans, it's been in our DNA since 1937, but if Ruben is happy watching the same dross stinking up the place every week then he'll be finding himself out of a job unless that's what he wants
 
So disappointed he didn’t show some fecking bollocks and throw on 3 youngsters for the last 15/20 minutes.
 
VP89 said:
Thats a matter of opinion. I'm unsure about that one. What we do know is moorehouse has done very well, looks ready and Casemiro looked dead for at least the final 10. You can't explain making feck all subs in that situation.

And the decision to throw him on for the final 2 mins was just so weird. Why do it? He obviously wasn't even going to touch the ball.
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The explanation for not making subs is that Amorim doesn't want to kill a young players confidence by bringing him on in a difficult away game. I agree that he shouldn't have made the subs at all though. Probably felt the pressure of a loss incoming.
 
For me this is his worst game under him. So disappointed. I don't even see half of the games anymore but today I stayed up hoping I will see academy lads shine for 20 mins but this manager cannot even do that. So disappointed today with him
 
2 man midfield said:
Many people are ok with the sound of this until it actually comes down to it
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I think fans are ok with it for the most part.

But they have no faith INEOS will stick with it and are also realising that he won't be backed heavily in the summer, therefore how much can it change.
 
He should've never been appointed mid season, we should've rolled with RvN as interim, and him coming in the summer. At this rate, he'll not last
 
He's a fecking embarrassment. Talks a good game but a total coward.
He's dragging us into a relegation dogfight, and you still have all these people "believing" in him because apparently he's a good "communicator" who already told us in advance we will struggled this season.

he has lost too many games. Players and fans are filled with dread, expecting to lose every game just ETH last season, and his final weeks this season. Players dont believe in him anymore. He will be done before the season ends if the losses continue to pile up.

What a fecking fraud.
 
MalaysianRed7 said:
I have not seen a United manager commit such cowardice for a long while. At least with the likes of Ole, his final nails in the coffin included trying to go toe to toe with Liverpool and City because he believed that’s what we were about. That was just pathetic against the 2nd most pathetic team in the league this season.

Backed him all the way, and have even criticised club legends for speaking against him, but they might be right.
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What was cowardly about how we played? With some competent finishing we’d have scored at least 2 goals if not more.
 
InspiRED said:
ETH made a series of absolutely horrendous purchases, which the club then bought at ridiculously inflated prices. This profligacy might well be unrivalled in the history of football.
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A number of them also involved his own agent and/or his son.
You could make a case for him being one of the biggest villains in Utd history.
I remember reading about how Mourinho was supposed to have set Inter back years, due to purchasing older players on high wages, but at least they won a memorable treble
 
Pscholes18 said:
I'm fine with Amorim and the shite we are seeing now if it means a brighter future. Anyone who thinks he should be sacked, are plastic supporters.
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This is the crux of it. We have to hope there’s a brighter future that makes sitting through this shit worth it. Otherwise we might as well get Tony Pulis, go with a well drilled 4 at the back and just take things one game at a time.
 
The idea that if a youth player come on and did nothing would ruin them is extremely disingenuous. You could give them several games and they’re a million miles away and get sent back to the youth team would not be an issue for anyone.

But refusing to react when several players out there are actively detrimental to the team deserves criticism. What they could they have done worse that Casemiro, Hojlund and Garnacho were doing today? If anything they would have much more leeway based on how poor the aforementioned played and would be less affected knowing the senior players would get the brunt of the criticism.

It’s not his fault the team is so poor but their is worrying signs in how overtly cautious he appears, even in losing positions. Also the fact he keeps trying the same thing over and over, I’m getting flashbacks of Moyes against Fulham.
 
Garethw said:
You put up with it when you see slight improvements week on week. We have gone backwards and are getting worse and worse.

How is next season going to be any better with this stupid system? We don’t have a budget big enough to make this system work.
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What improvements did you expect to see? What position would you expect the XI that started the game to finish in the league, over the course of a 38-game season?

The system is a total red herring. We're losing games because we lack quality, we lack experience and we lack physicality. That's it.
 
Woodywizz said:
So disappointed he didn’t show some fecking bollocks and throw on 3 youngsters for the last 15/20 minutes.
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You'd think focusing on the youth would be a no brainer. They're more maleable and should be able to adapt to his system easier right?
 
UnitedSofa said:
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This guy is bizarre with a lot of his takes. No one has a problem with ruling out any success this season as long as we see sensible things on the pitch and during the game. Sensible selections and sensible positioning.
 
lilcurt said:
I think fans are ok with it for the most part.

But they have no faith INEOS will stick with it and are also realising that he won't be backed heavily in the summer, therefore how much can it change.
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Most fans are still with Amorim from what I can tell. I can see Ineos getting itchy trigger fingers though if we’re 6 above the drop zone with 5 to play though.
 
Adz_99 said:
I agree with the sentiment but here's the issue. We don't have the money to buy him a brand new starting 11 in one window and even if we did, it feels like a stupid gamble unless he can show something in the 6 months he has before the summer.

The bar he had to jump over was set so low but he's still managing to trip over the damn thing. I wasn't expecting much but thought he might manage a top half finish. Now I'm not sure we get top 15.
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We don't need to buy a new 11 though. It's really silly to think all players in earth can either play instead four at the back or the at the back. He needs to coach the players and improve the performances. Incredible how few people have been saying this, it seems so obvious to me that that is his job.
 
It's hard to imagine him turning it around. He said it himself - you need wins so players can buy into the system - we haven't gotten any and they haven't. A lot of it is clearly not his fault but the odds are just so stacked against him at this point it's just an impossible situation to fix.

On the other hand, even if he would leave it's hard to imagine things will get better. There's just seems to be no hope right now. There was little to no hope before all the injuries but this last week seems to have just put the final nail in the coffin.

Poor organization and years of bad decisions have apparently culminated in what seems to be the worst season in about 40 years.

I'm sad. This is sad. I hope things don't get worse this season and I hope one day things won't be so sad.
 
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