Waaaa waaa I want a dutch boss waaa
My old dutch boss can speak spanish waaa
Good management because he let me do whatever waaaa
My old dutch boss can speak spanish waaa
Good management because he let me do whatever waaaa
Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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Amorim also speaks Spanish so they might as well just say that Ruud played Case and that’s why he liked him.
Even better, Amorim can speak Portuguese.
There is a solution.... join Leicester 
Would also suggest Everton. Ive seen Moyes speak in Spanish... uno, dos, tres, quatro times.
Would also suggest Everton. Ive seen Moyes speak in Spanish... uno, dos, tres, quatro times.
Give him until end of the season and then review. If he can't improve the team, there is no reason to continue with him. We can't change 11 players in one window. Do not repeat the same mistakes like we did with ETH.
The manager need to earn the time as he himself acknowledge it. We can't just say that this season is a free pass because he doesn't has his players. A good manager can at the very least improve the team and implement better style of play. So far he has done nothing to justify he is the right manager that we should hedge our future on.
The manager need to earn the time as he himself acknowledge it. We can't just say that this season is a free pass because he doesn't has his players. A good manager can at the very least improve the team and implement better style of play. So far he has done nothing to justify he is the right manager that we should hedge our future on.
Can speak is one way of referencing his native tongue yeah
Amorim speaks Casemiro's own language
Honestly these cretins in the media need to feck off. I guarantee if Ruud had stayed we’d have seen all the same shit about him.
Yeah I was just about to post this.
Isn't Luckhust the journo who hates Asian fans at games or am I thinking of someone else?
This is either Rashford, or someone trying to frame Rashford!
He hates all fans equally. Man has no friend.
No idea if he does but it would be fun to start circulating such rumours about clowns like Luckhurst and Jackson - show them it’s a two-way street
That Casemiro line some of this lot really just say anything!
some of this lot really just say anything!Have you ever watched his Sporting Lisbon teams?
He uses specialists throughout the 3421 formation;
‘The Pivot CB’, usually has to be very fast and mobile to operate a high line then have the ability to step into midfield, Maguire and MDL don’t really have the specialist pace to play that role, Lenny Yoro does but he’s still learning the EPL. This is why we are still so deep and the distance between back 3 and 4 in the next line is more like 35 yards than 15/20 yards, his team attack and defend as a collective, we still can’t do that for the reasons I’ve explained.
The two ‘Outside Centrebacks’ are also specialist, one being left footed on the left side and the right side being right footed. These two hybrid CB’s are highly mobile, very quick, normally quite tall and physical but their first task is to to pick up narrow number 10’s and 8’s to push up so there’s no space so the opposing team can’t dominate the ball and play in sporting’s half, they also have to move out to mark very tightly the two inverted strikers, leaving the wing backs free to push up joining the front 3 making it a 5 so his team becomes a 235 when high up the pitch.
How many defenders do we have who can play this way maybe Yoro, Martinez(now injured) and Mazroui?
Now on to his ‘two man midfield’ he likes them to both be highly mobile ball winners with one being more of Registra or Deep lying playmaker. When they dominate the ball the Central Centre back move into midfield and the team becomes more of a 2422 as they build possession through the lines, the Registra dictates tempo and plays next to the Pivot CB while the pure Defensive midfielder drops back into last line of a defensive two.
Even his use of wing backs are not standard as he asks one of his wing backs normally the left footed one on the right hand side to join the CF, the other wing backs normally the left footed, left sided one stays wide left and the right sided CB steps into the right wing back option which is what has happened when Mazraoui plays RCB and Amad RWB( the area we’ve had some success with this season as these two players generally get his system).
You may have seen this with Martinez coming more central as part of the two defensive payers next to Ugarte as Maguire in particular steps into midfield and starts spraying diagonal passes.
Amorim has already implemented a lot of his sporting system but our players are either not fit enough, do not have the football IQ or they are simply not fast enough currently.
Now onto the specialist number 10’s who are not traditional playmaker types. He wants these players to operate more like attacking midfielders who drop deep and in wider positions to receive the ball and help in the build up process, they also have to be exceptional pressers as they operate as a hybrid 10’s/wingers who must work hard in pressing and must work hard to track back and defend, they are expected to be dynamic who work from out to in to in to out positions and both are freely allowed to move across the line and interchange but mostly he demands they track back and work as hard as his wing backs.
These two positions are key to his system, both Goncalves and Trincao created a lot of chances for his sporting team but also scored goals, now with the new coach they play mostly wide in a 4231 system.
Even his number nine is not a standard number 9 as he likes his number to scan across the lines and then burst into vacant areas at will, the position demands a highly fit, explosive physical number 9 who has a high football IQ.
He must also defend and press from the front, be involved in the build up and freely interchange with wing backs and number 10’s.
I employ you to watch the last two or three United games again on MuTV if you have it or Sky+ or even highlights you will see all these patterns of play that I’ve discussed starting to take shape, Martinez unfortunately was key as his line breaking passes from the two man base of defence helped immeasurably.
The real irony is players like Shaw, Lindelof and Mason Mount fit the system perfectly but they are never fit.
So yes he will need 5/6 specialists players, this is why he was only looking at players like, Theo Hernandez , Patrick Dorgu and Nuno Mendes as they are all familiar with the left wing back role, not the left full back role.
Geovany Quenda is so similar to Saka, Amad in that he can occupy three positions from one and this is why he’s so key to Amorim rebuild, with Mazraoui, Yoro, Dalot(who would be better at RCB), Amad and Quenda would completely lock down the right side for at least 5 years.
We would need a specialist Left CB like Inacio or Dean Huijsen to help Shaw and Martinez who both have huge fitness issues.
However the Registra Midfielder (Currently Bruno is being used in this role and he can’t do it!) is the single key player that could be completely transformative to the club. Ederson from Atlanta would be perfect as he has the physicality needed to play in the EPL as well as the creativity.
I can only see one player who fits the specialist ‘’hybrid 10’ role Amorim demands and he’s our best wing back, Amad.
Maybe Garnaucho can be coached into the role but Amorim made up his mind on Rashford after 4 weeks! Maybe Mount can get fit and stay fit. We need specialists like Tyler Dybling, Chris Rigg, Morgan Rogers, MG White, M Cunha. Kobbie with time could be either a great number 10 or Registra but he needs a lot of work on his physicality and his stamina to make it in Amorim’s high intensity system.
Let’s hope that after this week long training the team have had that it will help and improve Amorim tactics.
I’m still waiting to be convinced and I hope this is the weekend we all say yes Amorim’s ball has arrived.
I’ve seen nothing so far from him to support the level of trust he gets from the media and everyone else but I’m really hoping he turns it around.
Football is about winning and winning now, there is nothing to gain by being relegation battle.
Everyone one know how to play against Spurs(use fast strikers to attack their high backline)
This is not a game for passing and faffing around at the back.
I’m still waiting to be convinced and I hope this is the weekend we all say yes Amorim’s ball has arrived.
I’ve seen nothing so far from him to support the level of trust he gets from the media and everyone else but I’m really hoping he turns it around.
Football is about winning and winning now, there is nothing to gain by being relegation battle.
Everyone one know how to play against Spurs(use fast strikers to attack their high backline)
This is not a game for passing and faffing around at the back.
The fact that we don't have these profiles doesn't necessarily make them all specialists for his particular system. United should already have more of these players (it's criminal that we don't after more than a billion spent over the last decade), and the people in charge of the recruiting should aim to purchase said profiles regardless of who the manager or what the starting formation is. By the way, one could also argue that most of the existing players are "specialists", suited to one style of football or another that hasn't taken us anywhere.
That's a lot of text so apologies if I'm missing something. The thing that pops out at me is that you are highlighting all these 'specialist' positions, and at the same time saying that players such as Shaw, Lindelof, Mount, Saka, Dibling, Cunha, Rigg, Mainoo etc would be a great fit for some of these roles. But the United players you mentioned weren't signed to play in Amorim's system, they just have the right attributes to fit the system. The non United players aren't currently playing in a similar system, so what exactly makes them specialists? I think you are just saying that players with certain attributes will be needed, which is surely always the case?
This 'specialists' thing is being hugely overblown by people looking (for whatever reason) to construct arguments as to why Amorim is a bad fit and will not be successful. 90% of these positions just require good fecking footballers with the correct attributes, adaptibility and attitude.
Exactly - this 'specialists' thing is a red herring. Like why is Tyler Dibling being described by the poster above as a 'specialist'? As far as I can see he's a classic English attacker - pace, power, trickery...in fact he's probably what we would have called a 'United' player back when we could pretty much have our pick of the best young exciting talents.
I partially agree with you - he was an effective but limited player - it was more just an indicator of wrong thinking, plus an incredibly badly handled transfer. The starting point for years of poor recruitment decisions.
I honestly thought gutter journalism had reached a new low but this is a new low. To be so thick as to create a lie, then not even bother to think through the fact they both speak the same language already just sums this source up.The stories about man management have dropped. Surprised it's taken this long to be honest.
We have all seen this story before. Let's hope expectations get subverted this time.
with respect , mate
Some of them appreciated Ole's man management as well until it went wrong. Caretaker managers rarely work long term.
I was thinking, instead of playing 2 x 10s why not play 2 strikers with a 10 behind them? Be more direct. The strikers clearly need help and someone playing closer to them to get others into the game. The manager seems to be super rigid in his tactical setup though. I hope he's actually been able to work on attacking fundamentals in the formation becasue we look lost going forward
We've also been better away from home, than at at home under him so far. Most, if not all of our horror shows have come at Old Trafford.
If you haven't gone for a pint with the manager or had dinner at his house by now you are most likely fired. Great way to keep morale up. I kid but if it's true I can see why he's supposedly keeping a distance from the squad as most are sellable but isnt management also about getting absolutely everything out of what you currently have at your disposal? Lots of these players seem to need the arm around the shoulder and are better than they are currently showing. This team has enough talent to win the EL or FA cup. Yes you are playing for your future but that was always the case. Win the EL and you've a 100% better chance of being kept around.
And thats less worrying than the other way around.. I reckon. Home ground will eventually be comfortable for the players whereas away always hostile.
FFSAmorim speaks Casemiro's own language
I'm glad EtH was sacked, but hope this improves drastically before the end of the season.
Not sure but I do think he's a shit stirrer when it comes to United.
For those that missed the last few months....
Yes - our attack has been terrible all season with only Amad showing any form.
No - we did nothing to help in January.
Comparing the performance when its the squad ETH spent 300m to acquire that was underperforming to begin with isn't exactly useful.
I mean, to me that shows he's tightened up the defence first, and that's a sensible thing to concentrate on initially (and apparently what he concentrated on first at Sporting).
Having an actual striker would help the attacking stats.
Here we go, FFS has only been here just over 3 months and already they are moaning about it
The defensive numbers on that chart are largely unchanged between both managers.
are they better or worse?
Amorim speaks Casemiro's own language
I genuinely spat my coffee after reading that
Who TF comes up with these tweets?!
Tightened the defence how? Our expected goals and big chances against has barely improved.
According to those stats has it improved or not?!