Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach

UnitedSofa said:
This is laughable. It really is.
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What’s laughable is the belief that a manager can continue to lose 50% of the matches he’s in charge of and not be at risk of losing his job.

He's been bloody awful and he’s going to need to start getting this team performing if he wants to keep his job.
 
Having serious doubts about his ability and suitability here. It's all well and good saying the players are shit, but as a Manchester United managed you cannot loose this many home games. It's unacceptable
 
He is learning on the job about the PL. He needs to learn faster in my opinion else he won't last.
 
Moriarty said:
My chum's Masters dissertation was on the footballers killed in WWI. They British actually formed footballer's battalions to fight at the front and they were slaughtered. No Princip, no WWI, no need to off Hitler who would have been an obscure painter in Vienna.
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Europe was a powderkeg long before Princip fired his shot. All the great powers were actively arming themselves in anticipation of the big conflict. Austro-Hungary empire had internal turmoil due to large diversity of people Inside of it, also they had pretensions on some land that was part of the Italy. Germany was rapidly building their naval fleet in order to challenge the British. Also Germany wanted a better distribution of colonies that were under British, French, Dutch control.
 
Red00012 said:
You seem to post a lot when results don’t go our way , go follow city for yourself or the scousers you wouldn’t have to post so much
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What have I said that’s controversial exactly? That a manager that is losing more games than winning is at risk of losing his job?

Is this acceptable to you? Do we have to be in a relegation battle before you accept that the manager is not the right appointment?
 
DomesticTadpole said:
Tiredness. Problem we have is a club this size needs to be in Europe and prefably the CL, when it would actually have been better if we weren't just for fitness levels and getting time on the training pitch. Financially however it would be a disaster.
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I mean yeah also that. We’re not good, compounded by low morale, nervous crowd at home and we were in Romania as of Thursday night.
 
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BluesJr said:
He’s said over and over again they haven’t been able to work on forward play as much with the limited training we’ve had. We brought him in at literally the worst possible time imaginable throughout the season and that’s on the upper management.
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Then why are you blaming our forwards for not scoring?
 
Garethw said:
What have I said that’s controversial exactly? That a manager that is losing more games than winning is at risk of losing his job?

Is this acceptable to you? Do we have to be in a relegation battle before you accept that the manager is not the right appointment?
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Haven’t you heard?
This is no ordinary club, this is Manchester United where every manager needs 300 million, 10 new players & at least 2 years before we can judge them.
No manager can possibly be expected to improve the current players.
 
Fracture90 said:
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Then why are you blaming our forwards for not scoring?
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They have chances in literally every game. They don’t score them. Are we creating bucket loads? No, but they perform horribly when they get them and they also have terrible movement so they don’t get into good positions.
 
Solius said:
I mean yeah also that. We’re not good, compounded by low morale, nervous crowd at home and we were in Romania as of Thursday night.
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The fact if we hadn't won the F.A. Cup then ETH would have been gone and they would have had to get a manager. Trouble is the cup win was great.
 
I’m writing this season off completely as he joined when we weren’t exactly ripping it up under ETH and inherited a bobbins squad, but yeah, it’s not a good look at the moment and questions are rightly being asked.
Been a UTD fan since the late 70’s and this by far the most pathetic team I’ve ever seen, surely they have more professional pride than what they’re showing?
 
Fracture90 said:
Europe was a powderkeg long before Princip fired his shot. All the great powers were actively arming themselves in anticipation of the big conflict. Austro-Hungary empire had internal turmoil due to large diversity of people Inside of it, also they had pretensions on some land that was part of the Italy. Germany was rapidly building their naval fleet in order to challenge the British. Also Germany wanted a better distribution of colonies that were under British, French, Dutch control.
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Biggest dick-waving competition the world had seen resulting in the slaughter of a generation of young men. Anyway, we are veering way off-topic.
 
BluesJr said:
They have chances in literally every game. They don’t score them. Are we creating bucket loads? No, but they perform horribly when they get them and they also have terrible movement so they don’t get into good positions.
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Half chances at best, rarely any clear cut chances. It is not the same.
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
Haven’t you heard?
This is no ordinary club, this is Manchester United where every manager needs 300 million, 10 new players & at least 2 years before we can judge them.
No manager can possibly be expected to improve the current players.
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The team is a mish-mash of players signed for a 4231 set up.

If we sign another manager now, it just becomes yet another merry-go-round like Spurs, like Watford, you cant keep making the same choices and expecting results. We need to stick with Amorim.
 
hellhunter said:
Sensible post. It made zero sense to appoint a manager that's ridiculously dogmatic about his formation, a formation we've never played and don't have the squad for, being fully aware of our financial constraints
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Probably Ashworth was against this appointment for this reason and he was shown the door?
 
I like the way that he is prepared to try something. Such a Mainoo upfront today - or putting two strikers on, and basically everyone getting a go in the back three. But it's also a sign that we are very lacking in the centre forward position - we reached a crisis point with this when we signed Weghorse - Wouthorse - whoever - and now the crisis is at the point of being wherever you are when you are beyond a crisis and not doing anything about it.
 
Fracture90 said:
Europe was a powderkeg long before Princip fired his shot. All the great powers were actively arming themselves in anticipation of the big conflict. Austro-Hungary empire had internal turmoil due to large diversity of people Inside of it, also they had pretensions on some land that was part of the Italy. Germany was rapidly building their naval fleet in order to challenge the British. Also Germany wanted a better distribution of colonies that were under British, French, Dutch control.
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As tangents go..
 
UnitedSofa said:
The team is a mish-mash of players signed for a 4231 set up.

If we sign another manager now, it just becomes yet another merry-go-round like Spurs, like Watford, you cant keep making the same choices and expecting results. We need to stick with Amorim.
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Literally every team on the planet is a managerial merry go round
 
Fracture90 said:
Half chances at best, rarely any clear cut chances. It is not the same.
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They aren’t clear cut because those players aren’t good enough to make them so. If we had Isak for example he’d sniff out more chances. It’s not always on tactics.
 
stevoc said:
So why have we decided to change to a new formation that will probably require more investment than we would have needed otherwise?
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This is the biggest question. I guess they asked and he looked from afar and thought we wouldn’t need too many players to be able to play it
 
UnitedSofa said:
The team is a mish-mash of players signed for a 4231 set up.

If we sign another manager now, it just becomes yet another merry-go-round like Spurs, like Watford, you cant keep making the same choices and expecting results. We need to stick with Amorim.
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We don’t need to stick with anything, for every Watford there’s a Forest.

What we need is for our managers to improve their players and fecking EARN time.
 
BluesJr said:
They aren’t clear cut because those players aren’t good enough to make them so. If we had Isak for example he’d sniff out more chances. It’s not always on tactics.
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Mate you're willing to point the finger at anyone other than Amorim...
 
hellhunter said:
Literally every team on the planet is a managerial merry go round
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City
Liverpool - Famously gave Liverpool 4 years to build a team
Arsenal - Gave Arteta 5 years to build the team to what he has now

But hey, lets all cave to the impatient fans to what they want and then see them throw their toys out the pram when the same shite happens again when yet ANOTHER manager can't get them playing good football.
 
UnitedSofa said:
City
Liverpool - Famously gave Liverpool 4 years to build a team
Arsenal - Gave Arteta 5 years to build the team to what he has now

But hey, lets all cave to the impatient fans to what they want and then see them throw their toys out the pram when the same shite happens again when yet ANOTHER manager can't get them playing good football.
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I'm sure both would've been totally happy with 1ppg.

And for every Arteta, there's Bayern and the Spaniards sacking managers every year while still winning the lot
 
UnitedSofa said:
City
Liverpool - Famously gave Liverpool 4 years to build a team
Arsenal - Gave Arteta 5 years to build the team to what he has now

But hey, lets all cave to the impatient fans to what they want and then see them throw their toys out the pram when the same shite happens again when yet ANOTHER manager can't get them playing good football.
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Difference being that you could see the change in the way they managers were setting them up, the style of play etc. We just look poor.
 
OmarUnited4ever said:
This is on him now.

Losing home games back to back is on him, players are cnuts obviously for not being able to play well against a canon fodder like Palace at OT but this is getting worse and worse especially at OT, at some stage Amorim has to figure out something, we only managed 2 home wins and lost 4 at OT since his arrival.
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Before today we had won 1 game in the last 6 vs Palace in the PL. Palace have won 3 of the last 5 at OT. This game today has nothing to do with Amorim, and everything to to with where we are at as a club.
 
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