Dare I say, the target to win the PL by 2028 suddenly seems realistic?!
Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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100% this, also he has the advantage of probably the best underage Utd sides in decades coming through over the next few years.
Ten Hag won the league with an Ajax side consistently 1st or 2nd for 8 years prior. What Ruben did for Sporting is on a whole other level in that regard.
That's why I said 2-3 players .
Defense and GK fits like a glove.
Bruno, Hojlund, Ugarte will do alright.
One of Dalot and Maz will be good for that right position too.
Partner to Ugarte , left wing back and a dribbler to partner Bruno.
Not perfect for sure but our new management just started. Give them 2 summer windows atleast.
As you seen with Gyokeres first goal today, the winers are also capable of sliding balls in behind, Dalot/Mazaroui assist/key passes numbers aren't great. They don't fit 343 at all IMO. We should be after the likes of Estupinan and Frimpong
They finished 2nd for 4 years, then they invested, Ten Hag was the beneficiary not Ajax.
As far as after him, FC Twente won the league under Mclaren they then didn't win a thing after does that make Steve Mclaren special or is the league poor?? Ajax went down hill because Ten Hag raided the best players.
You are a Sporting fan?
I don’t know, but do they look coachable?
Ruben will have to be a proper miracle worker to win the title within, say, three seasons. The moment he gets his first title, he’ll be our third best ever manager since and including Sir Matt.Gotta give credit to Hugo Viana as well tbf.
That sporting team has some serious gems especially we you think about the players they've sold over the past few years.
Hopefully our director can support Amorim as well as he has.
That sporting team has some serious gems especially we you think about the players they've sold over the past few years.
Hopefully our director can support Amorim as well as he has.
Great post! What Amorim did with Sporting is something special. Not quite SAF's Aberdeen but much better than ETH with Ajax.
When this guy comes in there are a lot of players that will surprise people. Our players are better than a lot of you think. For starters I really don’t think we will need a new right back.
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This is my worst fear. ETH succeeded with major help from Ajax's football structure and Overmars. Amorim had Hugo Viana and Sporting's great football structure especially the academy.
No doubts Amorim is a great coach, hope our football structure do their parts. We can't keep signing players like Antony, Mount, Malacia, Zirkzee, Ugarte.
I remain reserved on this one. There’s a lot I like about his profile in theory - young manager, at a big club in Europe, won trophies and at the right time to test himself at a really big club, seemingly charismatic. That said, I’m not a huge fan of the system and to me, he appears to favour playing around a midfield rather than through one. I felt Ten Hag seemed to have a bit of a disrespect for the centre of the park, and treated it as something to be jumped over rather than weaved through, and it’s a fear I have with Amorim. His two midfielders appear to be in the team to play against the ball rather than with it, and I worry about control from such a set up.
Anyway, these are observations, and reasons why he wasn’t top of my list, although he was always a candidate that I wouldn’t have been mad at either, as there are clear and obvious upsides too. Just some niggling thoughts that bother me a bit.
Anyway, these are observations, and reasons why he wasn’t top of my list, although he was always a candidate that I wouldn’t have been mad at either, as there are clear and obvious upsides too. Just some niggling thoughts that bother me a bit.
I have some bad news…..
The character limit cuts it off but he says “we will have to adapt”
Its true that our players are better than theirs, save for a few like the striker whos currently on his peak. However our players have been bad mentally. And that is the most important thing, bad mentality can easily make world class talents turn average.
Sometimes I wonder how would anyone fix that part, other than to replace them with players that are willing to put in the effort. I gues we will see, if Amorim lives up to his reputation being a great communicator, maybe he can fix it.
Sometimes I wonder how would anyone fix that part, other than to replace them with players that are willing to put in the effort. I gues we will see, if Amorim lives up to his reputation being a great communicator, maybe he can fix it.
Music to my ears. Hopefully there wont be Sporting of Manchester thread.
He only loves Ronaldo this man. Everyone else is unacceptable to him.They're lifting him up and giving him signed pictures
He's not won the champions league, I mean God, wait till he's won a trophy
But Roy, he's won numerous trophies in 2 seasons and he's beaten City 4-1, in last home game don't you think he deserves a good send off?
That's debatable. Based on what exactly? Performance wise this Sporting team / players outperform Man Utd in most aspects.
At best you are talking in terms of potential but even in that department, Sporting has some of the best prospects / players in Europe at the moment.
I had the same thought too but decided to try to be optimistic about it. Afterall, we've all been sold on this best in class idea that Ineos has assembled. Let's give them a chance to prove it. They also picked this guy to play their type of football.
Yeah, I'm not convinced we're better either. That front three for example, I think is better suited to Amorims style of play than anything we have. Their wingbacks are too and, I would argue those are the most important positions for this style of play.
If you did a best eleven for the formation between us and them, I reckon we'll get 4 players in. 5 at a push irrespective of form.
Couldn't watch the match. How did Sporting win 4-1 when City had 73% possession?
I hope Sporting didnt only counter attack at home?
What sought of football did they play?
I hope Sporting didnt only counter attack at home?
What sought of football did they play?
The stats don't tell the story of the game. Man City dominated for the first 35 minutes and they weren't clinical enough to capitalize.
The second part was all Sporting for the most part and schooled city though
He’s players go to war for him and that’s the mentality we need first of all and then we can start building off that. I feel like our players have thrown our ex managers under the bus and that power needs to change.
My advice to him would be keep things with English media short, cordial, don't reveal much and leave it at that. It doesn't matter how respectful or what his approach is, unless he wins every single game, he will suffer the ABU narrative some way or another.
I wonder if he'll ask them to show him what they've been doing in training the last 2 years? Then collapse in a heap laughing his nads off!
Ah yes! Good to hear! I want us to dominate, not counter.
For what is worth - he said he's taking very little from today's game, and that long-term we're not going to play like Sporting played today.
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He will probably be the new "special one". More polite and charming. An excellent communicator and very intelligent in his speech to the outside and inside of the club. Journalists and commentators enjoyed his talks in the press room. There was mutual respect. He doesn't leave any player behind and if for some reason one player is criticised by the fans he has no problem putting him on the pitch. He also doesn't like vain, pseudo-star players who don't work hard. The cohesion of the group comes first and that's almost an obsession. He had a motto that became famous among fans: "Where one goes, all go". I'm sad and disappointed that he's leaving in the middle of the season, but he deserves to be happy and he'll certainly make you happy with his work, and you'll return to great victories.
Based on purely individual talents, not how they work together in a team. If you want to take a look at team metrics then Sporting destroy us. Which is why I expressed my concern about their mentality within the club.
He said in the post match press conference that United cannot play so defensively.
Ah right we should have another manager be forced into building the squad around two players that have never sniffed a title race in their long careers.
I’d love for Rashford to somehow turn back into a 30+ G/A forward and Bruno to learn to play cleanly and consistently while still affecting the game, but I’d rather make them show it themselves within the framework of a real system as opposed to catering to two player we already know aren’t good enough to be catered to in the long run.
I see what you're saying about how he uses the midfield. Would explain why a player like Ugarte shone for him. The progressive requirements in there is nonexistent.
On the other hand, he still managed to out possessive Benfica and Porto. City was always going to be a different story.
Not really sure I agree our players are better. They are far more athletic and technical in many key areas.
I don’t mind the system and approach, especially since it’s better suited for a 343 than it was Ten Hags 424 thing. But the key (as always) is having real athletes at the back and in midfield that can compress that space out of possession to help gain control. Our biggest issue in majority of those Ten Hag disasters was having a backline unable to step up and defend high and wide and midfielders that (already weren’t incredibly gifted physically) be forced to defend impossible amounts of pace.
He meant in the context of that one match. Sporting were defensive vs City and very lucky. Look at the highlights, City should have been up 3 within 20 minutes.
Key thing he said.
“United cannot play so defensively”
Pretty much his entire interview was about the win and scoreline vs City being misleading. He actually wasn’t happy with the performance, happy with the result.
I find that really encouraging for two reasons: 1) he is not overly emotional and getting carried away by such a big win like fans or even some managers like Ole who couldn't understand that anyone can win a one off game or kill a giant on a specific day but it's about looking at the level of performance and look for a sustainable way of playing because that's only way you can win consistently. and 2) which is related to the last part, is that he understands that we cannot play like that consistently. That's not because of aesthetics or principles but for pragmatic reasons. You cannot compete regularly at the top by devising overly defensive strategies where you rely so much on the opponent missing chances or your GK having a worldly. The best teams have control and play on the front foot the majority of the time. There are few exceptions of course but why should we look at imitating the exception when we have all the resources to aim for the best.
Better man than me
the amount of running they did in that City game to open them up , I'm not sure out current players will like it