interesting comments at the 145 mark talking about Gyokeres and the respect he has for the club and city to not speak or even joke about players and transfers coming with him
Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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interesting comments at the 145 mark talking about Gyokeres and the respect he has for the club and city to not speak or even joke about players and transfers coming with him
Watched them one game and you could see every player knew what they were doing and what their plan was as a team.
Like others have said the first thing that stuck out was the work rate of the players and how deliberate attacking moves were. Their midfield and wide players ran their socks off but unfortunately we don't have much of that other than Mount, Bruno and Ugarte.
It also made a nice change seeing a team come out swinging in the second half after a poor first one. That almost never happened with us in Ten Hag's last two seasons.
Like others have said the first thing that stuck out was the work rate of the players and how deliberate attacking moves were. Their midfield and wide players ran their socks off but unfortunately we don't have much of that other than Mount, Bruno and Ugarte.
It also made a nice change seeing a team come out swinging in the second half after a poor first one. That almost never happened with us in Ten Hag's last two seasons.
Exactly. I don't know how people can say we need a rebuild . we may be short of 2-3 players but he has almost everything he needs to emulate that 343 here .
Well, feck me. Perhaps he is the messiah!
I think That's debatable. The defence I'd say is an upgrade on what he has at sporting, and Ugarte will likely be fine, but everyone else im not sure about being able to emulate it properly, particularly the wing backs.
This is what I'm saying. Plus ETH fecked up his chance to build his team through signings.
This time, it's Ineos doing the signings to make sure it fits Amorim style of play.
As you said, the players that cannot fall in line can do one.
Dare I say, the target to win the PL by 2028 suddenly seems realistic?!
100% this, also he has the advantage of probably the best underage Utd sides in decades coming through over the next few years.
Ten Hag won the league with an Ajax side consistently 1st or 2nd for 8 years prior. What Ruben did for Sporting is on a whole other level in that regard.
That's why I said 2-3 players .
Defense and GK fits like a glove.
Bruno, Hojlund, Ugarte will do alright.
One of Dalot and Maz will be good for that right position too.
Partner to Ugarte , left wing back and a dribbler to partner Bruno.
Not perfect for sure but our new management just started. Give them 2 summer windows atleast.
As you seen with Gyokeres first goal today, the winers are also capable of sliding balls in behind, Dalot/Mazaroui assist/key passes numbers aren't great. They don't fit 343 at all IMO. We should be after the likes of Estupinan and Frimpong
They finished 2nd for 4 years, then they invested, Ten Hag was the beneficiary not Ajax.
As far as after him, FC Twente won the league under Mclaren they then didn't win a thing after does that make Steve Mclaren special or is the league poor?? Ajax went down hill because Ten Hag raided the best players.
You are a Sporting fan?
I don’t know, but do they look coachable?
Ruben will have to be a proper miracle worker to win the title within, say, three seasons. The moment he gets his first title, he’ll be our third best ever manager since and including Sir Matt.Gotta give credit to Hugo Viana as well tbf.
That sporting team has some serious gems especially we you think about the players they've sold over the past few years.
Hopefully our director can support Amorim as well as he has.
That sporting team has some serious gems especially we you think about the players they've sold over the past few years.
Hopefully our director can support Amorim as well as he has.
Great post! What Amorim did with Sporting is something special. Not quite SAF's Aberdeen but much better than ETH with Ajax.
When this guy comes in there are a lot of players that will surprise people. Our players are better than a lot of you think. For starters I really don’t think we will need a new right back.
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This is my worst fear. ETH succeeded with major help from Ajax's football structure and Overmars. Amorim had Hugo Viana and Sporting's great football structure especially the academy.
No doubts Amorim is a great coach, hope our football structure do their parts. We can't keep signing players like Antony, Mount, Malacia, Zirkzee, Ugarte.
I remain reserved on this one. There’s a lot I like about his profile in theory - young manager, at a big club in Europe, won trophies and at the right time to test himself at a really big club, seemingly charismatic. That said, I’m not a huge fan of the system and to me, he appears to favour playing around a midfield rather than through one. I felt Ten Hag seemed to have a bit of a disrespect for the centre of the park, and treated it as something to be jumped over rather than weaved through, and it’s a fear I have with Amorim. His two midfielders appear to be in the team to play against the ball rather than with it, and I worry about control from such a set up.
Anyway, these are observations, and reasons why he wasn’t top of my list, although he was always a candidate that I wouldn’t have been mad at either, as there are clear and obvious upsides too. Just some niggling thoughts that bother me a bit.
Anyway, these are observations, and reasons why he wasn’t top of my list, although he was always a candidate that I wouldn’t have been mad at either, as there are clear and obvious upsides too. Just some niggling thoughts that bother me a bit.
I have some bad news…..
The character limit cuts it off but he says “we will have to adapt”
Its true that our players are better than theirs, save for a few like the striker whos currently on his peak. However our players have been bad mentally. And that is the most important thing, bad mentality can easily make world class talents turn average.
Sometimes I wonder how would anyone fix that part, other than to replace them with players that are willing to put in the effort. I gues we will see, if Amorim lives up to his reputation being a great communicator, maybe he can fix it.
Sometimes I wonder how would anyone fix that part, other than to replace them with players that are willing to put in the effort. I gues we will see, if Amorim lives up to his reputation being a great communicator, maybe he can fix it.
Music to my ears. Hopefully there wont be Sporting of Manchester thread.
He only loves Ronaldo this man. Everyone else is unacceptable to him.They're lifting him up and giving him signed pictures
He's not won the champions league, I mean God, wait till he's won a trophy
But Roy, he's won numerous trophies in 2 seasons and he's beaten City 4-1, in last home game don't you think he deserves a good send off?
That's debatable. Based on what exactly? Performance wise this Sporting team / players outperform Man Utd in most aspects.
At best you are talking in terms of potential but even in that department, Sporting has some of the best prospects / players in Europe at the moment.
I had the same thought too but decided to try to be optimistic about it. Afterall, we've all been sold on this best in class idea that Ineos has assembled. Let's give them a chance to prove it. They also picked this guy to play their type of football.
Yeah, I'm not convinced we're better either. That front three for example, I think is better suited to Amorims style of play than anything we have. Their wingbacks are too and, I would argue those are the most important positions for this style of play.
If you did a best eleven for the formation between us and them, I reckon we'll get 4 players in. 5 at a push irrespective of form.
Couldn't watch the match. How did Sporting win 4-1 when City had 73% possession?
I hope Sporting didnt only counter attack at home?
What sought of football did they play?
I hope Sporting didnt only counter attack at home?
What sought of football did they play?
The stats don't tell the story of the game. Man City dominated for the first 35 minutes and they weren't clinical enough to capitalize.
The second part was all Sporting for the most part and schooled city though
He’s players go to war for him and that’s the mentality we need first of all and then we can start building off that. I feel like our players have thrown our ex managers under the bus and that power needs to change.
My advice to him would be keep things with English media short, cordial, don't reveal much and leave it at that. It doesn't matter how respectful or what his approach is, unless he wins every single game, he will suffer the ABU narrative some way or another.
I wonder if he'll ask them to show him what they've been doing in training the last 2 years? Then collapse in a heap laughing his nads off!
Ah yes! Good to hear! I want us to dominate, not counter.
For what is worth - he said he's taking very little from today's game, and that long-term we're not going to play like Sporting played today.
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He will probably be the new "special one". More polite and charming. An excellent communicator and very intelligent in his speech to the outside and inside of the club. Journalists and commentators enjoyed his talks in the press room. There was mutual respect. He doesn't leave any player behind and if for some reason one player is criticised by the fans he has no problem putting him on the pitch. He also doesn't like vain, pseudo-star players who don't work hard. The cohesion of the group comes first and that's almost an obsession. He had a motto that became famous among fans: "Where one goes, all go". I'm sad and disappointed that he's leaving in the middle of the season, but he deserves to be happy and he'll certainly make you happy with his work, and you'll return to great victories.
Based on purely individual talents, not how they work together in a team. If you want to take a look at team metrics then Sporting destroy us. Which is why I expressed my concern about their mentality within the club.
He said in the post match press conference that United cannot play so defensively.
Ah right we should have another manager be forced into building the squad around two players that have never sniffed a title race in their long careers.
I’d love for Rashford to somehow turn back into a 30+ G/A forward and Bruno to learn to play cleanly and consistently while still affecting the game, but I’d rather make them show it themselves within the framework of a real system as opposed to catering to two player we already know aren’t good enough to be catered to in the long run.
I see what you're saying about how he uses the midfield. Would explain why a player like Ugarte shone for him. The progressive requirements in there is nonexistent.
On the other hand, he still managed to out possessive Benfica and Porto. City was always going to be a different story.