Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach

Can't wait to see the end of that dreadful 4231 at United and that he might get a tune out of those perceived to not fit in that tactic.
 
Had this happened a couple of weeks prior, media would’ve based our decision on this one result. While it was fantastic to see our new man beating City so emphatically, the media hype during that international break would be sickening.

I’ll take the media hype during the international break over the uncertainty and the gloomy atmosphere during the last two. At least we can look forward to watching United play when the break is over.
 
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Great result for Sporting but won't get too excited. Ten Hag dominated in Netherlands and had some great results in CL as well (not only in 2019), still failed at United. Amorim will surely struggle this season, we'll see if he can be successful in the long run. History of last decade says no but hopefully he's the one to break the curse finally.
 
I expect a snarky comment from Pep in his presser after getting an Amorim slapping. Something along the lines of "United have the best coach in the world now, they won't lose another game ever"
 
He should have power to get rid of any player he deems unfit for his style and tactics, and should do it without remorse. Also I hope he'll get some nice players which he knows that will fit, but not from Sporting or expensive players. We need 2-3 transfers in veins of Vidić and Evra, cheap and unknown.
 
Great result for Sporting but won't get too excited. Ten Hag dominated in Netherlands and had some great results in CL as well (not only in 2019), still failed at United. Amorim will surely struggle this season, we'll see if he can be successful in the long run. History of last decade says no but hopefully he's the one to break the curse finally.
We all know this. Let us dream just for a second.
 
Great result for Sporting but won't get too excited. Ten Hag dominated in Netherlands and had some great results in CL as well (not only in 2019), still failed at United. Amorim will surely struggle this season, we'll see if he can be successful in the long run. History of last decade says no but hopefully he's the one to break the curse finally.
Ten Hag's CV was winning the Dutch league with Ajax, which is basically a formality, and nearly beating Tottenham.
 
I’m not sure what we do there though, every single manager has been given a smörgåsbord of his favourite players. At what point do those who have the “intelligence” say the manager is at fault?
Was it never LvG’s fault, nor Mou’s, nor Ole’s, nor ETH’s?
Ole got hired because he was a club legend. On the other hand, LvG, Mourinho and Ten Hag had never failed at any club prior to joining us. Someone might reply to this nitpicking about playing styles, but all three players, bar Mourinho in big games, all had a reputation for being attacking managers before joining us. Even after managing us, 70 year old LvG played lovely football with Netherlands in very big games.

There was, and maybe still is, a culture at the club where the players are absolutely uncoachable. If Amorim can change that, as he did at Sporting by all accounts, fantastic. If he can’t, we cannot point the finger at a fourth highly esteemed manager.
 
I think Viktor could be a starter in any club in the world, honestly. Please let us have him a bit more. :D
 
Nah, he can't adapt to the players, that's partly why ETH moved away from what he tried at rhe start. Took him 2 games to abandon it.

It has to be his way or no way from the start, the players have to sink or swim.
I’m already seeing “hope he can get the best out of Bruno” when Bruno doesn’t have anything close to the pace/carrying ability/ technical quality that many of these Sporting players have.

We need to stop trying to “adapt” to current players that don’t really fit. Otherwise you’ll have another manager that sticks Rashford high and wide since he’s not a good presser, and let Bruno roam as a 10 and punt balls to the other team over and over until one comes off.
 
I expect a snarky comment from Pep in his presser after getting an Amorim slapping. Something along the lines of "United have the best coach in the world now, they won't lose another game ever"
So true. Whilst rolling that little ball of spit on his lip as he always does.
 
Look at that beautiful, black hair. It'll be bald and grey after a few months of watching Rashford attempting to press up the pitch and Antony spinning in the halfway line while we're 2-0 down.

In all seriousness what a way to go out. I remain cautiously optimistic.
 
Great result for Sporting but won't get too excited. Ten Hag dominated in Netherlands and had some great results in CL as well (not only in 2019), still failed at United. Amorim will surely struggle this season, we'll see if he can be successful in the long run. History of last decade says no but hopefully he's the one to break the curse finally.
Getting overly excited and optimistic is what we do best :lol:

You're absolutely right though. I thought Ten Hag was the answer and that we'd be sorted for years to come.
 
Ten Hag's CV was winning the Dutch league with Ajax, which is basically a formality, and nearly beating Tottenham.
League they won in 2019 was Ajax's first since 2014. In 2019 CL they beat Ronaldo's Juve and also Real Madrid 4-1 at Bernabeu.

Getting overly excited and optimistic is what we do best :lol:

You're absolutely right though. I thought Ten Hag was the answer and that we'd be sorted for years to come.
I'm sorry if I sound negative or am spoiling the fun it's just trying to avoid another disappointment. It's been frustrating 11 and a half years.
 
We must pay the Gyokeres release clause as soon as it becomes active.
Only if he can't turn Hojlund into his new Gyokeres.

He looks like the real deal though, wouldn't be shocked if a big London club offered silly money in January for him
 
Great result for Sporting but won't get too excited. Ten Hag dominated in Netherlands and had some great results in CL as well (not only in 2019), still failed at United. Amorim will surely struggle this season, we'll see if he can be successful in the long run. History of last decade says no but hopefully he's the one to break the curse finally.
Slightly different. Ajax are expected to win their league every year. Sporting hadn’t won a league for like 19 years. He came and ended Porto and Benficas dominance. And then started dominating himself. He built something’s ETH carried something on.
 
Great result for Sporting but won't get too excited. Ten Hag dominated in Netherlands and had some great results in CL as well (not only in 2019), still failed at United. Amorim will surely struggle this season, we'll see if he can be successful in the long run. History of last decade says no but hopefully he's the one to break the curse finally.

The thing is though, Ten Hag could have done a lot better here if he actually played like he did at Ajax, especially after signing half their team. Better still, make use of the fact you are at arguably the biggest club in the world in order to sign players for beyond the levels of those Ajax players.

I insist that Ten Hag dug his own grave here with some truly baffling decisions both in the transfer market and tactically.
 
If you hire him to coach then listen to him at all cost. If he wants to sell Rashford, Bruno, Hoijund, Casemiro, Dalot and others, just listen and get rid to them. We need passionate players who will run through a brick wall for United. We need a culture reset that everyone has the same rule to meet the highest standards. If Rashford and Garnacho only wants to attack but not defend, then drop them and find the buyers. Let Amorim reshape the whole squad, I have more belief in Amorim than ETH as there were many EPL looking at bringing him to United. For ETH, I didn't hear anyone other than United going for him.
 
The thing is though, Ten Hag could have done a lot better here if he actually played like he did at Ajax, especially after signing half their team. Better still, make use of the fact you are at arguably the biggest club in the world in order to sign players for beyond the levels of those Ajax players.

I insist that Ten Hag dug his own grave here with some truly baffling decisions both in the transfer market and tactically.
Meh, I think Ten Hag just happen to be the beneficiary of a brilliant Ajax academy and structure that clicked at the right time and elevated him probably past what his true ability is. He showed far too much of a lack of understanding of our issues over a long period of time for me to give him that benefit of the doubt now.
 
If you hire him to coach then listen to him at all cost. If he wants to sell Rashford, Bruno, Hoijund, Casemiro, Dalot and others, just listen and get rid to them. We need passionate players who will run through a brick wall for United. We need a culture reset that everyone has the same rule to meet the highest standards. If Rashford and Garnacho only wants to attack but not defend, then drop them and find the buyers. Let Amorim reshape the whole squad, I have more belief in Amorim than ETH as there were many EPL looking at bringing him to United. For ETH, I didn't hear anyone other than United going for him.
This sounds like we should just get rid of the management structure we just spent half a year getting in place.
 
Ole got hired because he was a club legend. On the other hand, LvG, Mourinho and Ten Hag had never failed at any club prior to joining us. Someone might reply to this nitpicking about playing styles, but all three players, bar Mourinho in big games, all had a reputation for being attacking managers before joining us. Even after managing us, 70 year old LvG played lovely football with Netherlands in very big games.

There was, and maybe still is, a culture at the club where the players are absolutely uncoachable. If Amorim can change that, as he did at Sporting by all accounts, fantastic. If he can’t, we cannot point the finger at a fourth highly esteemed manager.

So what are you suggesting here, that tonnes of different players with different personalities come to Old Trafford, and even under top managers, they instantly become “uncoachable”?
Why would that be?
 
If you hire him to coach then listen to him at all cost. If he wants to sell Rashford, Bruno, Hoijund, Casemiro, Dalot and others, just listen and get rid to them. We need passionate players who will run through a brick wall for United. We need a culture reset that everyone has the same rule to meet the highest standards. If Rashford and Garnacho only wants to attack but not defend, then drop them and find the buyers. Let Amorim reshape the whole squad, I have more belief in Amorim than ETH as there were many EPL looking at bringing him to United. For ETH, I didn't hear anyone other than United going for him.
Yeah I’m going to puke if we “build around Bruno” again or are trying to “get the best out of Rashford”
 
Easier to get sporting motivated against a big team than us motivated against teams.