What are the actual benefits to playing with 3 at the back? I get that this team isn't suited to it, but just in general what benefits does it bring? Especially with this system where you're cutting out wingers. Just seems far too niche and will make recruitment that much harder than it already is.
Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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Arsenal’s the FA cup, at least.
Idiot owners , bunch of idiot players and an idiot manager. The club is bolloxed.
He is picking what he has for wingbacks is my understanding. I don’t agree with the Dalot pick for sure, he is a shite players who offers nothing. I don’t mind us not scoring goals , this season is a write off anyways but I want to see us hold the ball against pressure. Make good one two passes and carry it forward. You need to do that in any formation.
Don't see how he is supposed to take his captain off and our biggest attacking threat just because he's on a yellow. Blaming him for that is bizarre. Bruno fecked the game with his idiocy.
What fecking style are we playing now exactly where we just conceded 7 in a week and now are losing again after being toothless in attack. It’s early days for the manager but people on here shouldn’t act like he’s immune to criticism.
The last manager used another formation. Didn’t work as well.
I dont know how people are turning on Amorim. Whats the point in playing a 4-2-3-1 now and getting some decent results with this squad and him not having a clue who can play in a system that he wants to play with.
We know the squad is a mess. I'm happy with Amorim's tactic. If we want to get rid of the players not fit to play for United then Amorim is showing exactly who they are.
We know the squad is a mess. I'm happy with Amorim's tactic. If we want to get rid of the players not fit to play for United then Amorim is showing exactly who they are.
Yes, of course he should adapt to his squad. All managers should. I can’t believe anybody could disagree with that.
No he won't but keep crying.
The players can't play his style evidently. So they better learn to adapt or they will be out the door.
Ok.
No he could leave and go full on PR, point out all the flaws and simply say that a manager deserves very basic standards to be met. He can point at countless managers who went before and say Im not making the same mistake as these guys, who destroyed themselves for a club that doesnt want to be fixed.
The question is, does adapting to this squad actually look any different to what we're seeing now?
The problem is the basics, you think setting the same players in a different formation is going to make us magically better? You need to be able to pass the ball under pressure in any formation.
I can’t work out why we started fairly positively with Mazraoui at centre back, Amad at wing back. At one point in a game he wasn’t playing a single centre back. We’ve now gone to five defenders and a defensive midfielder, and the results have got worse. most Amorim watchers were saying before he joined that this wouldn’t happen.
We’re a team that’s playing with only three attacking players, it’s no surprise we can’t attack.
We’re a team that’s playing with only three attacking players, it’s no surprise we can’t attack.
No. He could pick Amad and Antony. This formation is way too cautious when your wing-backs are not attackers. It’s very obvious for anyone watching us.
He's alienated Rashford, rightly so imo. Now is the time to be really brave and drop our poor excuse for a captain. I'm convinced we're a better unit without Fernandes. Shifting he and Rashford in January would help us with funds and enable some players to be brought in that actually fit this system.
He needs to pick players where we actually carry an attacking threat not 6 defensive players. He doesn’t make it easy on himself. Get some pace up front.
This. He has a good idea of who needs to go(almost all of them).
There’s no long-term benefit of changing formation just to get a small uptick in results.
I want him to stay no matter what. I really fecking hope InEOS don’t interfere.
Imagine competing for being best in Manchester for years. Now it’s avoiding being worst.
In theory it provides a good rest defence while not sacrificing too much offensively like a flat back four would. You need the right players for it though, the RCB and LCB have to be very athletic.
We were playing better under ETH earlier this season than we are now (and I hate ETH as much as the next man).
It is so obvious that this is true. I don't know why people just post about transfers endlessly. We want to build a new stadium. The squad is not as bad as these performances, Amorim just needs to focus on that and improve performances, which to be fair I believe he is focussed on, just the fans that are not.
100%.
It has neutered Amad by having back to play. He’s being out muscled.
The trouble is who else can play there. We have no 10s in form
If he can't work with this current squad of multi-millionaire players, then we have hired the wrong manager.
We have no more money for another massive overhaul. ETH blew the entire budget.
We have no more money for another massive overhaul. ETH blew the entire budget.
If he can stay decently clear of the relegation zone I don't think he's getting sacked - the league season is a complete write off already and everyone knows it.
8th vs 13th isn't going to make a difference.
It's all on Europa league to salvage our season.
Thanks to everyone who wanted to keep Ten Hag and not give the new manager any pre-season or money to spend on players that suit his system.
8th vs 13th isn't going to make a difference.
It's all on Europa league to salvage our season.
Thanks to everyone who wanted to keep Ten Hag and not give the new manager any pre-season or money to spend on players that suit his system.
It seems players don't respond to the new coach. I assume it is because he is asking them to train hard, something completely new for these merchants.
. He’s been appointed to get the best out of the players. There are international players and he needs to find how to get the best out of them. If he fecks off now, he will just admit he can’t.If he gets sacked before the summer I reckon I’m generally done after 30 years of support
I’m a local from Manchester attended possibly 100 games but I’ve had enough of this bullshit the club is a circus. I never thought I’d see the day when I got tired of football
Which coach do you suggest should work with this squad and achieve our expectations?
Always have and always will back the manager over the players, but Ruben has to stop messing around trying to implement a system that clearly isn’t working.
I was almost ready to accept short term pain for long term gain, but this is death by a thousand cuts.
Five at the back yet we’re shipping goals at an alarming rate, and we rarely look like scoring at the opposite end.
In the past seven games, we’ve conceded eight goals from set pieces. Ignoring all the talk of square pegs and round holes, we’ve got to be doing a whole lot better with the players we already have. We sure as hell can’t keep letting corners sail straight in.
I was almost ready to accept short term pain for long term gain, but this is death by a thousand cuts.
Five at the back yet we’re shipping goals at an alarming rate, and we rarely look like scoring at the opposite end.
In the past seven games, we’ve conceded eight goals from set pieces. Ignoring all the talk of square pegs and round holes, we’ve got to be doing a whole lot better with the players we already have. We sure as hell can’t keep letting corners sail straight in.
But who can he pick? Garnacho? Rashford? Both have shown they aren't up to it this year
Bold statement.
3 losses in the next 3 games, 6 losses in a row, yes he would be. That would be a record no united Manager would have achieved in recent memory. This is an ownership who paid to get Ashworth in, only to sack him 6 months later. So of course the manager would be in a precarious position.
Tbh, I like Amorim and what his sporting side did and I'm all behind him for being successful. However, his short reign here has been overhyped. I don't think this team, low on confidence can make top 4/5. I also don't think this team low on confidence should be finishing bottom half of the table. I also don't think, whether in transition or not, that a United team should potentially lose 6 in a row. Lets see what happens. I hope he turns it around though. Im fine with us finishing 7th/8th/9th, bottom half though I'm not.
At what point does he pack it in with some of these players and try youth players?
Agreed. Yes, our attackers are poor but we're really not helping ourselves with the squad selections. The team already struggles with scoring goals and we've decided to play even less attackers.
Exactly this, some of the posts on here and the transfer thread are an absolute joke when it comes to transfers. We are on the borderline with PSR and have to be really smart which will mean selling and buying.