Probably the only man in history to have done that.
Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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Good signs are when old key players were missing (Rashford and Garnacho) and the rest still tried very hard and won! that points out to one thing we rarely had since Fergie - the coach who managed to make players look better when they play together.
Also 48% of possession against Pep's team away... wow.
Also 48% of possession against Pep's team away... wow.
When we go 0-1 away against the any top 6 team over the last few few years all I hope for is for us to save face and keep it to three. Then a draw is a bonus and a win is a fecking celebration.
After they scored today I wasn't too bothered about getting a hammering because this unit wasn't going to let it happen because we can kind of tell shit is getting sorted. After Walker did the Rivaldo I knew we would fecking win it. I just fecking knew it.
No more cnuts in this squad unless you back it up with wins by being a cnut. Thats the first time I've seen Maguire go in for a fecking row for a teammate. Everyone says you got to run but you will run faster if you fecking hate everyone on the pitch not wraring red.
Everytime a true United player sulked on or off the pitch, more often then not came up with the stuff that makes them a United player. Literally every United legend fought for and against this club but they always gave a shit.
You can be mediocre for us in this league with a long streak of bad luck, its not a league suited to every player. But every goal you score turns the fanbase wild.That just makes you a Forlan. You can slot in anywhere on the pitch and probably clean the canteen when everyone leaves after lunch like John O'Shea. But you still nutmeg Figo and lob Arsenal keepers. That's what United players do.
When they leave the club the majority of the players show they are dependable and solid professionals at their next club. We are a different beast when it comes to expectations but good players sometimes leave and shit one's often arrive. Unfortunately the type of players signed for this club the last few years that would normally thrive at this club as part of a squad are training with a pack of celebrities instead of players.
When you hear our players talk and give insight over the last 50 years about the training and preparation at the club it was always the opinion that the training was tougher physically and mentally than the matches. Previous back room staff recently alluded to the training being good with the players responding well only for it to fall away on matchday.
Today I saw something different from Manchester United. We didn't panic or capitualte. We just did what we most likely were training to do all week while learning the lessons from our previous match. Every player was above average with a bit of quality when needed against a wounded beast of a team that could rip us open the moment we panicked.
After they scored today I wasn't too bothered about getting a hammering because this unit wasn't going to let it happen because we can kind of tell shit is getting sorted. After Walker did the Rivaldo I knew we would fecking win it. I just fecking knew it.
No more cnuts in this squad unless you back it up with wins by being a cnut. Thats the first time I've seen Maguire go in for a fecking row for a teammate. Everyone says you got to run but you will run faster if you fecking hate everyone on the pitch not wraring red.
Everytime a true United player sulked on or off the pitch, more often then not came up with the stuff that makes them a United player. Literally every United legend fought for and against this club but they always gave a shit.
You can be mediocre for us in this league with a long streak of bad luck, its not a league suited to every player. But every goal you score turns the fanbase wild.That just makes you a Forlan. You can slot in anywhere on the pitch and probably clean the canteen when everyone leaves after lunch like John O'Shea. But you still nutmeg Figo and lob Arsenal keepers. That's what United players do.
When they leave the club the majority of the players show they are dependable and solid professionals at their next club. We are a different beast when it comes to expectations but good players sometimes leave and shit one's often arrive. Unfortunately the type of players signed for this club the last few years that would normally thrive at this club as part of a squad are training with a pack of celebrities instead of players.
When you hear our players talk and give insight over the last 50 years about the training and preparation at the club it was always the opinion that the training was tougher physically and mentally than the matches. Previous back room staff recently alluded to the training being good with the players responding well only for it to fall away on matchday.
Today I saw something different from Manchester United. We didn't panic or capitualte. We just did what we most likely were training to do all week while learning the lessons from our previous match. Every player was above average with a bit of quality when needed against a wounded beast of a team that could rip us open the moment we panicked.
I really like how he bigs up Mount. Will be walking on clouds on the way to the treatment room at least.
I am sure mason will run through brick walls for Ruben now
I am sure mason will run through brick walls for Ruben now
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Anyone know how many times we've come back from behind already under amorim? Feels like it's happened a lot already
I know everyone beat City lately but the manner how we beat them is actually the reflection of what Amorim is trying to do with this team and what he is building through coaching. He wants to play more control football and today we didn’t beat City with counter attack like what some other teams did, we actually went toe to toe with them by trying to take control of the game playing possession football in Etihad and beat them. Same amount of shots, only 4% difference in term of possession, and much higher xG. Cannot wait to see until he finally succeeds to implement his system. I have faith in his coaching and man management.
I think it more a case of pointing out you have form for consistently terrible takes. It’s hard to get away from your posting history after the shocker you’ve had in the past year.
He got injured just by running normally on the pitch, how will he ever survive running through brick walls?The way you dress is important
-Amorim
So that explains why marcus is out.
-Amorim
So that explains why marcus is out.
I wouldn’t recommend that to the lad, he seems to struggle running through air.
The same guy who was waxing lyrical about a 0-0 performance against a poor Palace side after Ten Hag had over two years and £600+ million to implement his system. You couldn’t write it.
Ehh, I feel like a lot is being made out of this, when in reality his predecessor made similar decisions and had the backing from both the club and fanbase. The difference being EtH banished big names/players and didn’t get performances nor results, whereas in Amorim’s case we look more cohesive and got the result yesterday despite him not being here for very long nor having much time to coach.
I don’t think this is anything novel for the players nor should it be for the fans, though I do understand why people value it, but United isn’t really a club where the manager doesn’t get the backing for this sort of thing.
More impressive is how organised we look - from such a low point - in such a short space of time.
Yeah was very strange to hear him be very complimentary to us last night. He even corrected Shay Given at one point and had to do a double take
If Amorim says this player doesn’t fit, it would be strange for Berrada/Vivell to still sign him.
Zero chance Berrada or anyone else approves a buy that Amorim doesn’t want. The execs are there to support the head coach’s tactics, formation, and philosophy; not the other way around.
Isn’t that exactly what Woodward and the Glazers did for years?
Is it really necessary to continually bring this up?
This should have been done and dusted pages ago.
Results like that can be transformational. Showing and proving that things under him can improve which gets the team behind
I read something, then made a comment on it. If you don’t like that sort of thing I suspect this may not be the place for you.
You're so funny.
It was more than just ‘a comment’ in fairness. You seem intent on hammering the point. Give over now
Two comments is “intent on hammering”? Stop being so dramatic.
Well done Amorim for calling out Rashford and Garnacho. I hope they get the message.
If they are convinced of a players ability I think they would. Unless Amorim has a veto (which hasn’t been reported as it was with ETH). Obviously the hope is everyone is aligned but, for example, imagine ETH this season and the dynamic there.The whole idea is this is different to the manager lead recruitment of the Glazer era.
This isn't even his squad yet, but we’re already seeing significant signs of improvement. Casemiro, Eriksen, and Evans just don't quite fit, and he doesn’t have a proper left-wing back. Sancho would be a good addition to this team with a wide LWB, though I’m not sure he has the right mentality to thrive under Ruben.
8 of the Xi could be main starting next season:
Onana
Yoro - Mag/De Ligt- Martinez
Maz - Mainoo - Ugarte - LWB
Amad - ST - LCF
I know Bruno seens undroppable but his form has dipped fast and his output drop doesnt cover his flaws through the game. A proper LCF can challenge him out and Bruno/Mainoo fight out CM position next season.
I’m genuinely excited about the future. I can already see next season being a major step up with a few key players added. We can press effectively, break through a press with composed passing, and it's a joy to watch.
8 of the Xi could be main starting next season:
Onana
Yoro - Mag/De Ligt- Martinez
Maz - Mainoo - Ugarte - LWB
Amad - ST - LCF
I know Bruno seens undroppable but his form has dipped fast and his output drop doesnt cover his flaws through the game. A proper LCF can challenge him out and Bruno/Mainoo fight out CM position next season.
I’m genuinely excited about the future. I can already see next season being a major step up with a few key players added. We can press effectively, break through a press with composed passing, and it's a joy to watch.
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Did Amorim also play left footed players at RWB and vice versa at Sporting?
Also gets the very best out of Amad, Ugarte seems a different type of animal under him and has the balls to drop Rashford alltogether.
Love everything about him so far.
I dont know how it will all turn out. But his interviews are so much more listenable than the previous managers. There is always a targeted message or logical explanation to most things so far.
Even if we wouldn’t have won and while City may be out of shape, the match showed how we have been growing since EtH left.
EtH’s biggest issue obviously was the lack of control and composure, and the fact that the opposition could drive a bus through our midfield. This has changed dramatically. And to be fair it already was different under Ruud, but he faced lower level opposition.
Yesterday at moments it was still possible to see some of the class of both the team and the players. Some passes or touches, some combinations. But they didn’t tear us apart. Because we were realistic in our game plan, played organized, and worked hard.
That brings me to my second point: we work hard and seem to become a team. Look at that little scramble yesterday. The whole team got involved. Rasmus forehead to forehead with Walker. Maguire! We work hard and fight for each other now. This is so, so important
Looking at the players, yesterday showed he’s willing to make hard choices. For players like Garnacho and Rashford it can only mean 2 things: step up or leave. And both are good for the club
I also think he may be able to really improve players, for example I believe this may be the case with Hojlund
Agree on this team but with luck Hojlund may really step up. Then can focus on a LWB and a 10/ LCF
All in all some promising signs
EtH’s biggest issue obviously was the lack of control and composure, and the fact that the opposition could drive a bus through our midfield. This has changed dramatically. And to be fair it already was different under Ruud, but he faced lower level opposition.
Yesterday at moments it was still possible to see some of the class of both the team and the players. Some passes or touches, some combinations. But they didn’t tear us apart. Because we were realistic in our game plan, played organized, and worked hard.
That brings me to my second point: we work hard and seem to become a team. Look at that little scramble yesterday. The whole team got involved. Rasmus forehead to forehead with Walker. Maguire! We work hard and fight for each other now. This is so, so important
Looking at the players, yesterday showed he’s willing to make hard choices. For players like Garnacho and Rashford it can only mean 2 things: step up or leave. And both are good for the club
I also think he may be able to really improve players, for example I believe this may be the case with Hojlund
Agree on this team but with luck Hojlund may really step up. Then can focus on a LWB and a 10/ LCF
All in all some promising signs
Loved that bit - he just gets it.
Thought he was excellent in the press conferences with how he explained why he left them out of the squad. Didn't leave any room for speculation and wasn't afraid to explain.
Yeah I'm sure the young wing back Quenda on the right is left footed.
As It Was Written.
Yes, I suspect he likes wrong-footed wing-backs for the build-up. I wouldn't be surprised if we bought someone like Frimpong to play both RWB and LWB.
Mount can't run through fresh air without getting injured, god help him if he starts running through walls.
Onana running the length of the pitch to get involved in the walker tussle was heartening too!
Love to see it
Yes, but first of all, I think this issue is overblown. It should be a very rare occurrence that there is a disagreement between the head coach and the structure around him about what kind of player the team needs. With Berrada having brought his own guy in for the head coach role to replace ten Hag, I think there should be no issues going forward regarding this.
Secondly, the head coach/manager cannot be expected to be a professional scout in their limited free time. The scouting department can find the players that are perfect for Amorim but Amorim himself might not know much or anything about them. Same way Doku was bought for Pep, for example. City and Pep likely agreed on the type of profile their squad is missing, and the club went and found this player for him. Instances like that one is where this new recruitment structure will bear fruit IMO. United have also made signings like that in the past. I doubt ten Hag knew much about Hojlund for example, before the club presented the player to him, but he liked what he saw and okayed it.
True, our best window in a long time. Only Zirkzee is struggling so far.
That's why you focus on u25 players. They have time to turn things around or adapt to new managers.
And if Zirkzee does not work out you can sell him for a decent amount.