Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach

I really like how he bigs up Mount. Will be walking on clouds on the way to the treatment room at least.

I am sure mason will run through brick walls for Ruben now
 
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Anyone know how many times we've come back from behind already under amorim? Feels like it's happened a lot already
 
I know everyone beat City lately but the manner how we beat them is actually the reflection of what Amorim is trying to do with this team and what he is building through coaching. He wants to play more control football and today we didn’t beat City with counter attack like what some other teams did, we actually went toe to toe with them by trying to take control of the game playing possession football in Etihad and beat them. Same amount of shots, only 4% difference in term of possession, and much higher xG. Cannot wait to see until he finally succeeds to implement his system. I have faith in his coaching and man management.
 
VP89 said:
And here you are bringing him up. Get over it mate.
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I think it more a case of pointing out you have form for consistently terrible takes. It’s hard to get away from your posting history after the shocker you’ve had in the past year.
 
sglowrider said:
I really like how he bigs up Mount. Will be walking on clouds on the way to the treatment room at least.

I am sure mason will run through brick walls for Ruben now
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:lol: He got injured just by running normally on the pitch, how will he ever survive running through brick walls?
 
Redfrog said:
Maybe not but you want Amorim to play attacking football in no time.
It’s a bit weird to be that critical after we won on the city’s turf so early in Amorim’s tenure, while he didn’t have time on the training pitch with the players.
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The same guy who was waxing lyrical about a 0-0 performance against a poor Palace side after Ten Hag had over two years and £600+ million to implement his system. You couldn’t write it.
 
Escobar said:
Omar and SRJ back him hugely and this is why he can drop Rashford. The players must feel this and whilst I can see a bloodbath in summer (for all the right reasons) I am confident most players will finally push on under him as he is the big boss now
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Ehh, I feel like a lot is being made out of this, when in reality his predecessor made similar decisions and had the backing from both the club and fanbase. The difference being EtH banished big names/players and didn’t get performances nor results, whereas in Amorim’s case we look more cohesive and got the result yesterday despite him not being here for very long nor having much time to coach.

I don’t think this is anything novel for the players nor should it be for the fans, though I do understand why people value it, but United isn’t really a club where the manager doesn’t get the backing for this sort of thing.

More impressive is how organised we look - from such a low point - in such a short space of time.
 
Zlatan 7 said:
Really surprised with how full of praise Danny Murphy’s comments were on him on motd2. Seemed to genuinely like him
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Yeah was very strange to hear him be very complimentary to us last night. He even corrected Shay Given at one point and had to do a double take
 
tomaldinho1 said:
He’ll give an opinion but he’s now right at the bottom of the filter, which is how it should be. He can say yes or no and Berrada will take that into account.
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If Amorim says this player doesn’t fit, it would be strange for Berrada/Vivell to still sign him.
 
tomaldinho1 said:
Think about it logically - Ineos are basically signing U23s (Amorim likely won’t know much about any of them unless they come from Liga NOS) or choice older players, Maz/De Ligt, where there’s some value proposition they deem worth it (Very specific and I imagine a rarer type of transfer with Ineos). All the time spent with scouts and data and agents and DoFs etc is gone. Vivell now runs that whole side and reports up to Berrada.

I feel like you’re thinking of recruitment as if we’re playing Football Manager - naturally Vivell/Berrada aren’t purposefully blanking him and he’ll just turn up to Carrington and new player will just be there. He’ll give an opinion but he’s now right at the bottom of the filter, which is how it should be. He can say yes or no and Berrada will take that into account.
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Zero chance Berrada or anyone else approves a buy that Amorim doesn’t want. The execs are there to support the head coach’s tactics, formation, and philosophy; not the other way around.
 
Zumbi said:
The same guy who was waxing lyrical about a 0-0 performance against a poor Palace side after Ten Hag had over two years and £600+ million to implement his system. You couldn’t write it.
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Is it really necessary to continually bring this up?

This should have been done and dusted pages ago.
 
Results like that can be transformational. Showing and proving that things under him can improve which gets the team behind
 
alexthelion said:
Is it really necessary to continually bring this up?

This should have been done and dusted pages ago.
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I read something, then made a comment on it. If you don’t like that sort of thing I suspect this may not be the place for you.
 
Raoul said:
Zero chance Berrada or anyone else approves a buy that Amorim doesn’t want. The execs are there to support the head coach’s tactics, formation, and philosophy; not the other way around.
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If they are convinced of a players ability I think they would. Unless Amorim has a veto (which hasn’t been reported as it was with ETH). Obviously the hope is everyone is aligned but, for example, imagine ETH this season and the dynamic there.The whole idea is this is different to the manager lead recruitment of the Glazer era.
 
This isn't even his squad yet, but we’re already seeing significant signs of improvement. Casemiro, Eriksen, and Evans just don't quite fit, and he doesn’t have a proper left-wing back. Sancho would be a good addition to this team with a wide LWB, though I’m not sure he has the right mentality to thrive under Ruben.

8 of the Xi could be main starting next season:

Onana
Yoro - Mag/De Ligt- Martinez
Maz - Mainoo - Ugarte - LWB
Amad - ST - LCF

I know Bruno seens undroppable but his form has dipped fast and his output drop doesnt cover his flaws through the game. A proper LCF can challenge him out and Bruno/Mainoo fight out CM position next season.

I’m genuinely excited about the future. I can already see next season being a major step up with a few key players added. We can press effectively, break through a press with composed passing, and it's a joy to watch.
 
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kaku06 said:
So in just over a month as United manager in the middle of the season. Ruben Amorim has

- Won by 4 goals in over 2 years.
- Won first game away in Europe in over a year
- Won at city away in god knows how long
- Implemented his style and has made us better positionally and with the ball
- Dropped the divas in the team

The man is a genius.
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Also gets the very best out of Amad, Ugarte seems a different type of animal under him and has the balls to drop Rashford alltogether.
Love everything about him so far.
 
I dont know how it will all turn out. But his interviews are so much more listenable than the previous managers. There is always a targeted message or logical explanation to most things so far.
 
Even if we wouldn’t have won and while City may be out of shape, the match showed how we have been growing since EtH left.

EtH’s biggest issue obviously was the lack of control and composure, and the fact that the opposition could drive a bus through our midfield. This has changed dramatically. And to be fair it already was different under Ruud, but he faced lower level opposition.
Yesterday at moments it was still possible to see some of the class of both the team and the players. Some passes or touches, some combinations. But they didn’t tear us apart. Because we were realistic in our game plan, played organized, and worked hard.

That brings me to my second point: we work hard and seem to become a team. Look at that little scramble yesterday. The whole team got involved. Rasmus forehead to forehead with Walker. Maguire! We work hard and fight for each other now. This is so, so important

Looking at the players, yesterday showed he’s willing to make hard choices. For players like Garnacho and Rashford it can only mean 2 things: step up or leave. And both are good for the club

I also think he may be able to really improve players, for example I believe this may be the case with Hojlund

ManRed said:
This isn't even his squad yet, but we’re already seeing significant signs of improvement. Casemiro, Eriksen, and Evans just don't quite fit, and he doesn’t have a proper left-wing back. Sancho would be a good addition to this team with a wide LWB, though I’m not sure he has the right mentality to thrive under Ruben.

8 of the Xi could be main starting next season:

Onana
Yoro - Mag/De Ligt- Martinez
Maz - Mainoo - Ugarte - LWB
Amad - ST - LCF
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Agree on this team but with luck Hojlund may really step up. Then can focus on a LWB and a 10/ LCF

All in all some promising signs
 
tenpoless said:
"When people at the club are losing their jobs, we have to put the standard really high". Basically telling some players should be ashamed and therefore improve but saying it in such a neutral and blameless way. I think he might be a genius...

Its true though. Regular employees get the sack while they feck around unbothered getting paid hundreds of k per week.
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Loved that bit - he just gets it.

Thought he was excellent in the press conferences with how he explained why he left them out of the squad. Didn't leave any room for speculation and wasn't afraid to explain.
 
sillwuka said:
Did Amorim also play left footed players at RWB and vice versa at Sporting?
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Yes, I suspect he likes wrong-footed wing-backs for the build-up. I wouldn't be surprised if we bought someone like Frimpong to play both RWB and LWB.
 
sglowrider said:
I really like how he bigs up Mount. Will be walking on clouds on the way to the treatment room at least.

I am sure mason will run through brick walls for Ruben now
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Mount can't run through fresh air without getting injured, god help him if he starts running through walls.
 
Shabby as she goes said:
Even if we wouldn’t have won and while City may be out of shape, the match showed how we have been growing since EtH left.

EtH’s biggest issue obviously was the lack of control and composure, and the fact that the opposition could drive a bus through our midfield. This has changed dramatically. And to be fair it already was different under Ruud, but he faced lower level opposition.
Yesterday at moments it was still possible to see some of the class of both the team and the players. Some passes or touches, some combinations. But they didn’t tear us apart. Because we were realistic in our game plan, played organized, and worked hard.

That brings me to my second point: we work hard and seem to become a team. Look at that little scramble yesterday. The whole team got involved. Rasmus forehead to forehead with Walker. Maguire! We work hard and fight for each other now. This is so, so important

Looking at the players, yesterday showed he’s willing to make hard choices. For players like Garnacho and Rashford it can only mean 2 things: step up or leave. And both are good for the club

I also think he may be able to really improve players, for example I believe this may be the case with Hojlund



Agree on this team but with luck Hojlund may really step up. Then can focus on a LWB and a 10/ LCF

All in all some promising signs
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Onana running the length of the pitch to get involved in the walker tussle was heartening too!

Love to see it
 
crossy1686 said:
Isn’t that exactly what Woodward and the Glazers did for years?
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Yes, but first of all, I think this issue is overblown. It should be a very rare occurrence that there is a disagreement between the head coach and the structure around him about what kind of player the team needs. With Berrada having brought his own guy in for the head coach role to replace ten Hag, I think there should be no issues going forward regarding this.

Secondly, the head coach/manager cannot be expected to be a professional scout in their limited free time. The scouting department can find the players that are perfect for Amorim but Amorim himself might not know much or anything about them. Same way Doku was bought for Pep, for example. City and Pep likely agreed on the type of profile their squad is missing, and the club went and found this player for him. Instances like that one is where this new recruitment structure will bear fruit IMO. United have also made signings like that in the past. I doubt ten Hag knew much about Hojlund for example, before the club presented the player to him, but he liked what he saw and okayed it.
 
Hopefully a big day for him yesterday. A message has been sent and needs to be built upon.
 
sglowrider said:
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But at least he is willing to give it a go -- unlike a couple of our absentees.
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Right. Nobody is saying he lacks talent or motivation but he is clearly severely injury prone, unfortunately at the level of Luke Shaw

We are a professional sports team in the most competitive league. We cannot be a charity case

Shaw and Mount cannot be relied upon. Sad but a cold fact that may not be ignored. Not buying a left back in the Summer is the biggest problem of that transfer window. Maybe we didnt have money but we should have at least loaned somebody less known or brought somebody from Latin America

Thankfully, we do have Mainoo to play in Mount's position. Probably not enough across the entire season but still not as bad as what is happening on the left
 
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