Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach

I saw something very interesting last night.

Not one player was putting their hands out in exasperation and moaning at teammates as to why they didn’t execute correctly. There were demands to do better of course but none of that shoulder shrugging and dropping head bullshit.

Bruno is so passionate that he tends to do this. But I think Amorim has had a word with him on this - on body language. He looks more a captain of Manchester United than I’ve ever seen him.

Guess 2 other players who are always moaning and moping when things don’t go their way? Rashford and Garnacho. With Rashford you saw it all the time as recently as the Pilzen game. Garnacho has a habit of becoming aloof when he doesn’t get the ball much.

These are body language signs of player mentality. Amorim is working hard to fix that. I fecking love it!
This!!
It hasn't been spoken about at all but when was the last time Bruno rolled around on the ground? I genuinely can't remember. The possession against big teams and general improvement in player performance is great to see but cultural change has been by way the most amazing thing for me.
 
That Forest loss is so annoying. Lost it because of a bunch of avoidable mistakes, and had we won that game, we’d be sitting in 5th right now and the narrative about there not being a new manager bounce would be very different.
 
I don't buy that view, those managers gutted squads and then wasted millions on new players.
True to an extent, but how many times did we have to settle for extremely overpriced 3rd choice transfer targets? Screamed of situations where managers demanded one thing, the board said another, and then we were forced late into the transfer market to overpay for dross.
 
True to an extent, but how many times did we have to settle for extremely overpriced 3rd choice transfer targets? Screamed of situations where managers demanded one thing, the board said another, and then we were forced late into the transfer market to overpay for dross.
Not very often. Maguire is the only one that comes to mind as a disagreement between Mourinho and the board. Also, clubs don't always get the first choice player anyway?
 
And he should have had an assist too, if Bruno had scored on the great chance. It was a sublime pass.
100%.

He showed a side we haven't seen to often.

Maybe it was a coming of age game.
 
The wind of change from Amorim is enormous.

The scale of ETH clueless is now visible.

The scale of how we used to lose control in game during ETH is now as clear as possible.


Against City on Sunday, City had the lowest touches in the opposition box this season...

Only 18.














During ETH period, against Brentford.
Brentford had 85 touches in our box. 85 touches. Borderline all time Stat. It was in March 2024 BTW.

 
Not very often. Maguire is the only one that comes to mind as a disagreement between Mourinho and the board. Also, clubs don't always get the first choice player anyway?

What about Antony? Surely a perfect example of having to settle for an overpriced, mediocre player at the end of the window, because we fecked up landing our first choice targets. Fellaini also comes to mind after chasing Fabregas all summer. I'm sure there's a good few more.
 
I blame the league cup win and his self indulgent letter to the fans.

We never really recovered after that.

For me the alarm bells were when he started going on about playing more to United's traditions. Then he signed Mason Mount as a central midfielder which was weird and basically doomed Mount to unfair criticism beore he'd even kicked a ball for us. Then the Sancho thing which might have been fine if he didn't make some other bad decisions around the same time and end up playing Pellistri on the wing. Also much as I like Evans. If you purposely sign an ageing player who was released from a relegated team, you then have no real authority to enforce standards above this on ANY of your players. Feel like if you do get a free card with that it was definitely used up on Weghorst.

All of this stuff was around the same time and it felt to me like we never really recovered from it. We'd visibly lose belief during a game, players performance levels dropped, players started getting injured more or taking longer to come back when they were injured. Its all the same stuff we've seen before once a manager is on death row. Not toxic like it was with Jose but the same kind of drop off you always seem to see when the belief isn't there anymore.
 
Amorim is showing that as a manager you have to stick to your principles and force players to play your style. And all of the people who said some of the players can't keep possession were wrong. Pro footballers at the highest level should be capable of maintaining possession. ETH failed because he quit at the first sign of failure.
 
The wind of change from Amorim is enormous.

The scale of ETH clueless is now visible.

The scale of how we used to lose control in game during ETH is now as clear as possible.


Against City on Sunday, City had the lowest touches in the opposition box this season...

Only 18.














During ETH period, against Brentford.
Brentford had 85 touches in our box. 85 touches. Borderline all time Stat. It was in March 2024 BTW.



Still in awe of those that excused away the ETH defensive approach. Don't think some realize truly how lucky we were to be 8th last year.
 
Still in awe of those that excused away the ETH defensive approach. Don't think some realize truly how lucky we were to be 8th last year.

So many of those excuses have been shown up for the nonsense they were.

“The system is fine it’s just the players that can’t execute it”.

Nope, the system was just bad.
 
I saw something very interesting last night.

Not one player was putting their hands out in exasperation and moaning at teammates as to why they didn’t execute correctly. There were demands to do better of course but none of that shoulder shrugging and dropping head bullshit.

Bruno is so passionate that he tends to do this. But I think Amorim has had a word with him on this - on body language. He looks more a captain of Manchester United than I’ve ever seen him.

Guess 2 other players who are always moaning and moping when things don’t go their way? Rashford and Garnacho. With Rashford you saw it all the time as recently as the Pilzen game. Garnacho has a habit of becoming aloof when he doesn’t get the ball much.

These are body language signs of player mentality. Amorim is working hard to fix that. I fecking love it!
I agree with you. You can tell Amorim places teamwork and player psychology high up on his list. Clear to see!
 
The wind of change from Amorim is enormous.

The scale of ETH clueless is now visible.

The scale of how we used to lose control in game during ETH is now as clear as possible.


Against City on Sunday, City had the lowest touches in the opposition box this season...

Only 18.














During ETH period, against Brentford.
Brentford had 85 touches in our box. 85 touches. Borderline all time Stat. It was in March 2024 BTW.


That Brentford game was over Easter was it? Worst Utd game I’ve watched in a long time. Horrendous.
 
Early days, but I like what I'm seeing and hearing from Amorim. We have a legacy problem with poor defending on set pieces, a problem that goes back to the Moyes years, which needs to be dealt with. But apart from that the green shoots of life are now apparent and we can thank Amorim for that. Not sure about INEOS -- yes, I know, they're the ones who brought in Amorim -- but that's another thread.
 
Against City the players missing/rested were almost entirely the ones who give possession away easily.

United only had Bruno in the starting eleven who is guilty of that trait.

Not to slag them off, as every player has good and bad points…but Rashford, Garnacho and Casemiro are big contributors of lost possession.
 
Dropping Garna and Rasha could have backfired very badly. Imagine a loss where we didnt score that could have happened easily because we are a work in progress playing City away. The media would have been all over him. Balls of steel.
 
Still buzzing over the victory to be honest.

Not just the victory, but the manner of our approach. I didn't think we'd be able to go toe-to-toe this soon vs Pep's City at the Etihad. I know they're struggling this season, but they still blow teams away at home. They had their worst attacking game of the season in terms of touches in the final 3rd(or opposition box, forgot which 1).

Very encouraging signs.
 
What about Antony? Surely a perfect example of having to settle for an overpriced, mediocre player at the end of the window, because we fecked up landing our first choice targets. Fellaini also comes to mind after chasing Fabregas all summer. I'm sure there's a good few more.
City missed out on Kane, Cucurella and Jorginho to name a few. Some were lost to us in fact like Maguire and Sanchez. Liverpool missed out on Lavia and Caicedo only recently. No team has ever gotten every player they wanted.
 
That Forest loss is so annoying. Lost it because of a bunch of avoidable mistakes, and had we won that game, we’d be sitting in 5th right now and the narrative about there not being a new manager bounce would be very different.
Yes, it’s annoying. But it happens, even for a great team. We are developing and progressing. It’s already obvious that our players can keep possession rather than treat the ball as hot potato. Let’s see at the turn of the new year where we will be. Hope Ruben can prove he could be the one.
 
I like how Intelligent of a coach he is. He plays players based on form but also based on the opponent. Like playing Maguire in a low block back 3 is a good move. And playing yoro in a game we should be dominating and playing an high line
 
At this point in our miserable decade long journey, I'm just hoping that a manager does the obvious. Eth was doing that till his first season here but totally lost the plot after that. Likewise ole post Ronaldo.

Amorim seems to be finding his way to getting the defense and midfield sorted and attack is generally the last peice of the puzzle.
 
The coordination of the defensive line already looking like an Amorim team...

 
Amorim is only the second United manager to win his first Premier League Manchester derby after Sir Alex.
 
Dropping Garna and Rasha could have backfired very badly. Imagine a loss where we didnt score that could have happened easily because we are a work in progress playing City away. The media would have been all over him. Balls of steel.
Very brave and bald decision indeed but I think Amorim is still in the manager honeymoon period in terms how the media will react to him, the fact that he took on a United team in the bottom half, in the middle of the season will give him a little bit of grace time from Media criticism, don't get me wrong, had we lost it would've been an issue but not as bad you envisage.
 
The wind of change from Amorim is enormous.

The scale of ETH clueless is now visible.

The scale of how we used to lose control in game during ETH is now as clear as possible.


Against City on Sunday, City had the lowest touches in the opposition box this season...

Only 18.














During ETH period, against Brentford.
Brentford had 85 touches in our box. 85 touches. Borderline all time Stat. It was in March 2024 BTW.


Erik was dealing with the worst ever, historical injury crisis that was unprecedented in the history of all sports, ever (he had to go full season without Luke Shaw!), and was also not supported by the board who refused to deliver him FDJ who would have turned us into contender.
 
The coordination of the defensive line already looking like an Amorim team...



He definitely seems to be targeting the defensive organization first, he's even said that the attacking patterns are the most difficult to drill/take the most time. Which makes sense I suppose and why you see managers coming in to struggling teams often make a point of fixing defense first. Would love to get your thoughts on the video below comparing Amorim's United against his Sporting side -



Essentially, he's pointing out 3 main differences -

1. Amorim's United are not yet as patient in building out from the back. The team will often go to the wingback during the build up and get 'trapped' by pressing teams. In these situations, Sporting would often just cycle the ball back to the goalkeeper and start again finding the free man on the opposite flank, or have the confidence to play down the line on the flanks with either the striker or the near sided #10 making the run out wide. At United, the backline does not seem to have the confidence to be patient in the build up to play back to the GK and start again, or the technical finesse to play down the line and so, often will try to force the switch to the opposite flank. Picks out Dalot in particular as being guilty of trying to play the switch to the opposite flank directly with a diagonal, and that this pass is quite risky and one Amorim will want to discourage because if intercepted, it leaves the team quite vulnerable in the center.

2. United's midfield is much more fluid positionally compared to Sporting, where roles were quite well designated. This means that when when United try to progress from the wide areas, often the near sided #10 (and he picks out Bruno in particular of being guilty) will drift wide to receive the ball to feet. The #10 then tries to play the striker down the line or switch. Ideally, the wing back would be the one playing the striker down the channel rather than going through the #10, leaving the #10 in the 'correct' central position to make the run into the space vacated by the striker running the channel. In our case, if (say) Dalot has the ball wide and (say) Bruno drifts wide to receive it, Dalot passes to Bruno who then turns and plays in (say) Hojlund into the channel, all our players have drifted wide and Bruno is not in position to run into the space vacated by Hojlund and Dalot being behind Bruno is not in a position to fill it either. This seems like it can be fixed by just getting a left footed LWB who is more comfortable playing it down the line. Lack of a left footed left back was an issue under Ten Hag even with Shaw and Malacia MIA so definitely one to fix in the transfer market.

3. Once United have progressed further up the pitch, the positioning of the wingbacks is too high compared to at Sporting. At Sporting, the wingbacks would often start their runs from a deeper position and get the switch of play from the midfield/wide center backs trying to play them in behind the defensive line. At United, because the starting position of the wingbacks is so aggressive, the deeper players playing the switch are often forced to play the ball into feet for the wingbacks rather than in the space in behind the opposition - because the wingback has already made the movement so high, the opposition defensive line drops deeper earlier, leaving less space in behind to hit the ball into. Not mentioned in the video, but you can see the point demonstrated by the winner against City - Martinez can play Amad in behind the City defensive line because Amad starts the run so deep.

Feel like some of these are just teething issues caused by trying to implement a new system mid-season. More time with Amorim on the training pitch, and pre-season in the summer, should hopefully iron out at least the positional issues. Still time for Wilcox and Vivell to earn their paychecks and improve the technical and athletic base of the team in the transfer market. Whether Amorim will succeed where his predecessors failed I feel like is largely down to whether United can get the recruitment right.