Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach

[criticalanalysis]

I don't disagree with you that Amorim's showing his limitations.

I have lost all faith in the Amorim experiment, and I have been vocal about it too, but I can understand his difficulties to some extent.

Part of the reason why his box midfield doesn't work is the lack of physicality we have. Take someone like Zirkzee who's currently playing as one of the 10s. He simply lacks the pace and power to get behind the ball on defensive transitions and ahead of it on offensive transitions. His limitations as an athlete always mean he's going to be slow getting out and getting back in. Invariably that leaves gaps to play into.

We have too many players like that, who lack the required level of pace and power, meaning it generally only takes a couple of wall passes or a progressive carry to tear apart our defensive structure. The bulk of our players literally can't keep up with Amorim's approach.

But that is where my real frustration with Amorim comes from. Because it's clear now that this is not something you can just teach. It's the same as Villas Boas trying to make the muscle memory of what was fundamentally a Mourinho spine disappear. No amount of training was going to make John Terry into the centre back Villas Boas wanted. You can say the same for any number of United players and Amorim.

As a good coach he will have known very quickly that the bulk of these players cannot do what he wants. Doggedly sticking at it is like banging his head against the brick wall. It's led to some of the ugliest, most uninspiring football United have played in 40 years. And it's not doing anything but destroying the confidence of our squad in Amorim and themselves.

Yes, I don't disagree. My particular issue is more specific in that yes he doesn't have the right players but surely he can improve them or provide them with a platform to some sort of a middle ground to get them to where he wants.

In my opinion, there a lot of 'quick wins' that he really should be implementing that are overlooked or that he's unaware of. I understand not wanting Maguire to play a high line but surely you can tell him to move the ball faster across the back line? Why is it that every single time one of our 3 centre backs get pressed or fronted by an opposition player, the ball almost always go back to Onana? Surely he can tell to them take a touch, dribble with it and/or tell our WBs and MF to recognise this and offer short options or for a ball over the top (like we did today)? Why do we never challenge on the 2nd, 3rd or 4th ball? Always attacking the 1st and getting done on touch? Why can't we put first time balls in?

Either 1) he's extremely tolerant of these players making these choices, 2) he told them repeatedly and they are not doing what he wants or 3) he's not recognising this, all three which are extremely problematic.

Our general approach play is basically a slightly better version of the end of Ole and ETH tenures, which was basically 'here's the team line ups, have a go and let's see'. It's such a low bar for me to really see any positives atm.

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

Another staff member for the sack

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

One of the best videos i have seen on Amorim tactics.

Thanks, interesting to watch.

That first minute is what I’ve been saying for ages, said it in another thread tonight as we kicked off… “pass quicker”. We roll the ball across the back line and opponents can run at roughly the same speed so we don’t create space… hit the thing!

I think Yoro can do what Sporting defenders did, not sure about other first team CHs…maybe de Ligt? Heaven looked capable in sub cameo the other week. Maguire has to go, slow in defending, slow in speed of pass. Not sure Onana fits model either.. painfully slow and predictable with passing.

I wonder why we pass to WBs so often now, maybe it’s a short term tactic until we get new/ promoted defenders?

A goalie, a CH, a RWB, a passing CM and a 9. Quenda seems to be the rumour (though not sure what happens to Kamason) and as we have little cash, most/all the rest from academy? (Kukonki, Heaven, one of several MFers we have, Ibragimov, Chido).

 

[bond19821982]

One of the best videos i have seen on Amorim tactics.

Been saying this . Our first phase of play is terrible which means , opposition doesn't need to do anything. Leave that 3 defenders with the ball and just do a half press. We are done !

 

[Eagle_eye]

Fair points, but we are arguably performing more poorly now than under ETH. I say stand behind Ruben, but how many of these players are actually going to be in the squad when Ruben is still here in two seasons? Maybe 5 or 6 at most.

Quiet a few.. I'm happy with the 3 CBs we can field, LWB, 2 CDMs in Bruno and Ugarte, right 10 in Amad, maybe survive with Onana for another window, so that's 8 starters.. Get 3 players in like a Quenda at
RWB, say a Cunha or even an Angel Gomes (for example) as the left 10, and a striker up front and the team is significantly transformed.. That would be a great start as a first summer window.

 

[goncaloc10]

Yes, CB are absolutely crucial in this model. But not only.

At the first defensive line, you have players who can play central position (I would bet De Ligt will end up dominating this spot) but it's normal most of the defenders are not comfortable yet with this system and first contruction phase. Yoro will grow, Mazraoui is trustable playing as an exterior CB, Lisandro will adapt but with the injury you'll need to sign a left-footed CB, who's a playmaker from behind. I'm going against what I want, but Inacio is really good on the ball. Maybe there are other players like that on the market, cheaper, but I'm not sure who.

Playing on the wings, Dorgu has potencial, Amass might grow with time, Dalot and Mazraoui are ok solutions for "defensive WB" but you'll need to decide: or Diallo plays as a wing-back, and in that case you'll need a left-footed nº10/interior winger, or Diallo plays as a interior winger, and you'll need a left-footed wing-back, very skilled on 1x1, driblling and acceleration and speed. Quenda is a kind of obvious solution, also because he can play both inside and outside.

In the midlefield, I would say United needs two players (DM and CM) but maybe there's only money for one, so I would favor DM. Ugarte and Mainoo staying and Bruno and Mount can play there if needed.

In the interior creative areas, Bruno and Mount are good solutions, Zirkzee we'll see but you need a top player for those between the lines areas. A Trincao alike, but better player than Trincao.

For the striker spot, Hojlund can stay in the squad but you do need a "special" ST. Who knows who.

So 1 LCB, 1 DM, 1 left-footed winger (interior or exterior) and 1 ST - 4 signings would change the team a lot.

Some sales, specially Garnacho, might help fuel the budget for this.

 

[NLunited]

We played a lot better today, getting the ball forward quickly.

Decision making up front is still poor.

Becker made the pass on Oscarsson that Dalot should have made on Hojlund. Just whip the fecking ball in there ffs.

That bs penalty changed the game, we were much the better side up to that point.

Why is the caf losing its cookies? Has the tide turned and Amorim can‘t do anything right?

 

[thefrenchy]

A very interesting video, thank you.
Let's admit that this video shows us the basis of Amorim's game, from where our game begins, that is to say phase one, or if I understood correctly the players (defender) must thwart the opponent's pressing by using the wingers or precisely not use it to advance the ball and have a balance of power in the midfield and that we do not get there is very uncomfortable.
The moment of the video where we see Dalot swing the ball in the middle is very significant of our game.
No technical accuracy, too many missed passes that make the team lose confidence and in the end we end up with a draft game where we have the impression of being lost on the field. It's a shame and I find it serious that the players can't do the things that are the basis of our game.

 

[criticalanalysis]

Yes, CB are absolutely crucial in this model. But not only.

At the first defensive line, you have players who can play central position (I would bet De Ligt will end up dominating this spot) but it's normal most of the defenders are not comfortable yet with this system and first contruction phase. Yoro will grow, Mazraoui is trustable playing as an exterior CB, Lisandro will adapt but with the injury you'll need to sign a left-footed CB, who's a playmaker from behind. I'm going against what I want, but Inacio is really good on the ball. Maybe there are other players like that on the market, cheaper, but I'm not sure who.

Playing on the wings, Dorgu has potencial, Amass might grow with time, Dalot and Mazraoui are ok solutions for "defensive WB" but you'll need to decide: or Diallo plays as a wing-back, and in that case you'll need a left-footed nº10/interior winger, or Diallo plays as a interior winger, and you'll need a left-footed wing-back, very skilled on 1x1, driblling and acceleration and speed. Quenda is a kind of obvious solution, also because he can play both inside and outside.

In the midlefield, I would say United needs two players (DM and CM) but maybe there's only money for one, so I would favor DM. Ugarte and Mainoo staying and Bruno and Mount can play there if needed.

In the interior creative areas, Bruno and Mount are good solutions, Zirkzee we'll see but you need a top player for those between the lines areas. A Trincao alike, but better player than Trincao.

For the striker spot, Hojlund can stay in the squad but you do need a "special" ST. Who knows who.

So 1 LCB, 1 DM, 1 left-footed winger (interior or exterior) and 1 ST - 4 signings would change the team a lot.

Some sales, specially Garnacho, might help fuel the budget for this.

I'm not sure if you watched enough of our games under Amorim but are you surprised by the lack of improvement of our players on a individual level?

I agree Amorim doesn't have the players to play the way he wants but none of the players are doing anything close to it, which is worrying for me. I've highlighted it in my post above but telling Maguire or de Ligt to pass the ball faster (even sideways and not even vertically) isn't asking them to be Martinez on the ball overnight. It's really baffling there aren't any changes, tweaks or semblances of patterns of play beyond the surface level. Again I understand Ugarte, Bruno and Casemiro aren't the sharpest in the half spaces, on the turn etc but they are almost none existent first pass/pivot options for our centre backs, which seems to the basis of how Amorim's Sporting teams played.

 

[Valencia Shin Crosses]

I don't disagree with you that Amorim's showing his limitations.

I have lost all faith in the Amorim experiment, and I have been vocal about it too, but I can understand his difficulties to some extent.

Part of the reason why his box midfield doesn't work is the lack of physicality we have. Take someone like Zirkzee who's currently playing as one of the 10s. He simply lacks the pace and power to get behind the ball on defensive transitions and ahead of it on offensive transitions. His limitations as an athlete always mean he's going to be slow getting out and getting back in. Invariably that leaves gaps to play into.

We have too many players like that, who lack the required level of pace and power, meaning it generally only takes a couple of wall passes or a progressive carry to tear apart our defensive structure. The bulk of our players literally can't keep up with Amorim's approach.

But that is where my real frustration with Amorim comes from. Because it's clear now that this is not something you can just teach. It's the same as Villas Boas trying to make the muscle memory of what was fundamentally a Mourinho spine disappear. No amount of training was going to make John Terry into the centre back Villas Boas wanted. You can say the same for any number of United players and Amorim.

As a good coach he will have known very quickly that the bulk of these players cannot do what he wants. Doggedly sticking at it is like banging his head against the brick wall. It's led to some of the ugliest, most uninspiring football United have played in 40 years. And it's not doing anything but destroying the confidence of our squad in Amorim and themselves.

But isn't the entire point that both he and INEOS are aware that most of our players aren't good enough and will be shipping them out accordingly? Sure he could adjust, and try to play a more familiar system where we let Bruno float around as a 10 and play transition ball to scrape more towards the middle of the table, but ultimately it doesn't make a difference in the end. It's not like we have a team that would be in 4th with better tactical decisions and we are pissing away UCL qualification to try some exotic "system".

I have my doubts about Amorim because like you I think there are certain things that should have been improved upon by this point, and he's made some tactical and personnel decisions I don't agree with. But I also think a large chunk of the squad is just flat out poor, with the biggest eyesore being the attacking group we employ as a club. Amad is the only player in that entire group that I think can play in any top level team, and he's not even available anymore. The rest are genuine bottom of the table type options to field in an attack, and if you have nothing in terms of quality going forward then it's just going to make every "good" performance suffer and struggle to actually get results, and every poor performance will be exacerbated even more because you don't have any quality to bail you out.

 

[J J]

This is based on nothing but faith. Faith and Hope will not get Amorim or the team higher up the table. He needs to sort this shit

This is based on nothing but faith. Faith and Hope will not get Amorim or the team higher up the table. He needs to sort this shit out.


Why do posters like this always ignore the context around these 8th place finishes? Both managers came into teams that were underperforming and in bad form, they immediately put their stamp on them by getting them to play their style of football relatively quickly. However, because the teams were made up of players that were mostly not a good fit or good enough, they had inconsistent form. But at least with Klopp in that first half a season, you could see improvement. Arteta won a trophy in his first season, and although his second was not good enough position wise, clearly something was being done that the club could see they were on the right path. This is the polar opposite of Amorim, where he took a team that was in bad form but not in the worst place positionally, and then made it perform worse. We went from mid table to lower table within four months, how is this in anyway the

Oh, great, another armchair expert who thinks they know more than everyone else. Did you even watch the games, or are you just regurgitating the same tired takes you read on some other forum? Klopp and Arteta had 'clear visions'? Yeah, because you were in the dressing room, right? Amorim took over a sinking ship, and you expect him to turn it into a luxury yacht overnight. Maybe if you stopped whining for five seconds, you'd see that rebuilding takes time. But no, let's just fire everyone and start over every time things get tough. Brilliant strategy, Einstein.

 

[Escobar]

Look who is available and how good they are. We need a summer miracle

 

[Stig]

He's an absolute disgrace. No respect for the club or for European football.
He goes to every match dressed in the pullover with a zip.
He never wears a suit.
He's never said "thank you" for being given the United job. Not once have I heard him say "thank you."
He's not interested in winning. He needs to come back when he's interested in us telling him how to make a winning team.

 

[Stig]

A very interesting video, thank you.
Let's admit that this video shows us the basis of Amorim's game, from where our game begins, that is to say phase one, or if I understood correctly the players (defender) must thwart the opponent's pressing by using the wingers or precisely not use it to advance the ball and have a balance of power in the midfield and that we do not get there is very uncomfortable.
The moment of the video where we see Dalot swing the ball in the middle is very significant of our game.
No technical accuracy, too many missed passes that make the team lose confidence and in the end we end up with a draft game where we have the impression of being lost on the field. It's a shame and I find it serious that the players can't do the things that are the basis of our game.

Is it a good analysis or is he making up theory and picking isolated moments of play that fit his 'theory' ?

It seems reasonable when I watched the video.

People here always talk about recognizable patterns of play.

What patterns of play do people on here see us trying to play?

I don't think I see one, but I don't think that I am good at spotting them either.

 

[AshRK]

Into his 5th month and all he has been good at is Press conference. All he is doing is appeasing Manchester united fans by saying the right things, even if that means killing players confidence.

This is the manager who kicked Rashford out stating standars and look into future bs and here he is afraid of bringing players like amass and Kone but rewarding players like Casemiro and Lindelof. You can blame Dalot and Hojlund all you want but it is the manager who keeps on playing them. Before people start defending the manager and say what are his options, we'll options are there. He has to be bold. Why don't you drop Dalot and play Amass in lwb position and play Mazraoui in his position. Why don't you give more minutes to Heaven instead of Lindelof. Why not start planning for the next season.

The truth is so far Amorim has been a huge disappointment. Not saying he should be sacked but the reality is if results don't improve he is a goner.

 

[Insanity]

Into his 5th month and all he has been good at is Press conference. All he is doing is appeasing Manchester united fans by saying the right things, even if that means killing players confidence.

This is the manager who kicked Rashford out stating standars and look into future bs and here he is afraid of bringing players like amass and Kone but rewarding players like Casemiro and Lindelof. You can blame Dalot and Hojlund all you want but it is the manager who keeps on playing them. Before people start defending the manager and say what are his options, we'll options are there. He has to be bold. Why don't you drop Dalot and play Amass in lwb position and play Mazraoui in his position. Why don't you give more minutes to Heaven instead of Lindelof. Why not start planning for the next season.

The truth is so far Amorim has been a huge disappointment. Not saying he should be sacked but the reality is if results don't improve he is a goner.

That has been one of the major disappointments for me. There have been plenty of opportunities to give youngsters a go, even if it is for 10-15 mins at the end of games, but he is very reluctant. I also do not get the point of making youngsters train with the first team and then not having them on the bench when there are plenty of bench slots available.

The narrative is that we have to forget this season as he is preparing us for the long term. If true, how do Lindelof, Eriksen etc. fit in this long term vision?

 

[Desert Eagle]

He's an absolute disgrace. No respect for the club or for European football.
He goes to every match dressed in the pullover with a zip.
He never wears a suit.
He's never said "thank you" for being given the United job. Not once have I heard him say "thank you."
He's not interested in winning. He needs to come back when he's interested in us telling him how to make a winning team.

We need to demand half of Portugals GDP as compensation.

 

[AshRK]

We need to demand half of Portugals GDP as compensation.

First the Dutch looted us and now a Portuguese. Who next?

 

[AshRK]

That has been one of the major disappointments for me. There have been plenty of opportunities to give youngsters a go, even if it is for 10-15 mins at the end of games, but he is very reluctant. I also do not get the point of making youngsters train with the first team and then not having them on the bench when there are plenty of bench slots available.

The narrative is that we have to forget this season as he is preparing us for the long term. If true, how do Lindelof, Eriksen etc. fit in this long term vision?

Very strange. He talks one thing and does the other. I expected him to be more bold. I rather finish 15th and waste the season with amass Kone Heaven Obi than 15th with Casemiro lindelof dalot eriksen

 

[NLunited]

The narrative is that we have to forget this season as he is preparing us for the long term. If true, how do Lindelof, Eriksen etc. fit in this long term vision?

They go bye bye.

 

[KM]

There's no logical explanation on leaving 5 open spots on the subs bench when there's no U21 match happening nearby. It's frankly ridiculous and undermines the whole academy.

 

[Aleryan]

That has been one of the major disappointments for me. There have been plenty of opportunities to give youngsters a go, even if it is for 10-15 mins at the end of games, but he is very reluctant. I also do not get the point of making youngsters train with the first team and then not having them on the bench when there are plenty of bench slots available.

The narrative is that we have to forget this season as he is preparing us for the long term. If true, how do Lindelof, Eriksen etc. fit in this long term vision?

Time (90 mins) flies when you are the head coach. When you are struggling to get good results from the match to save your job, youngsters' priority will take a backseat obviously.

 

[KM]

Except the only other youth players eligible were Ogunneye, Fitzgerald and Jack Fletcher. Who don't exactly seem the level of youth player in desperate need of being thrown into a struggling first team, in a crucial game, despite never even training with the first team.

Except the fact that apart from Obi, each and every youth player can be added to B List and thus made eligible for UEL matches if they are added to squad 24 hours before the match kicks off.
From UEFA's website

Each club is also entitled to register an unlimited number of players on List B during the season. The list must be submitted by no later than 24.00CET on the day before the match in question.

A player may be registered on List B if he is born on or after 1 January 2003 and has, since his 15th birthday, been eligible to play for the club concerned for any uninterrupted period of two years, or a total of three consecutive years with a maximum of one loan period to a club from the same association for a period not longer than one year. Players aged 16 may be registered on List B if they have been registered with the participating club for the previous two years without interruption.

Each club must include at least two goalkeepers on List A and at least three in total (List A and List B combined).

Oh and Jack Fletcher literally trained with the first team pre-Europa league match. But yes apart from these things, your post is accurate. Well done.

 

[AshRK]

Except the only other youth players eligible were Ogunneye, Fitzgerald and Jack Fletcher. Who don't exactly seem the level of youth player in desperate need of being thrown into a struggling first team, in a crucial game, despite never even training with the first team.

That doesn't make sense. We are in a desperate need. Our first team players like hojlund dalot lindelof are stinking the place week in week out. Not saying we will become world beaters playing these academy lads but they will show more balls than some of these senior players.

 

[Brazilian_Ronaldo_9]

That doesn't make sense. We are in a desperate need. Our first team players like hojlund dalot lindelof are stinking the place week in week out. Not saying we will become world beaters playing these academy lads but they will show more balls than some of these senior players.

Or they might hide away and lose confidence. You can’t force them in, they have to be ready for it.

 

[red_de_pologne]

He's an absolute disgrace. No respect for the club or for European football.
He goes to every match dressed in the pullover with a zip.
He never wears a suit.
He's never said "thank you" for being given the United job. Not once have I heard him say "thank you."
He's not interested in winning. He needs to come back when he's interested in us telling him how to make a winning team.

Does he even own one?

 

[KM]

He's an absolute disgrace. No respect for the club or for European football.
He goes to every match dressed in the pullover with a zip.
He never wears a suit.
He's never said "thank you" for being given the United job. Not once have I heard him say "thank you."
He's not interested in winning. He needs to come back when he's interested in us telling him how to make a winning team.

 

[lex talionis]

Quiet a few.. I'm happy with the 3 CBs we can field, LWB, 2 CDMs in Bruno and Ugarte, right 10 in Amad, maybe survive with Onana for another window, so that's 8 starters.. Get 3 players in like a Quenda at
RWB, say a Cunha or even an Angel Gomes (for example) as the left 10, and a striker up front and the team is significantly transformed.. That would be a great start as a first summer window.

I can see 8 of our regular starters today being regular starters next season, but not in two seasons.

But let's not split hairs. This starting XI isn't functioning anywhere near at a top four level right now and although we could all agree that a fit Shaw, a fit Mount, a proper striker and a decent wingback could make take us back to top four contention even that tempered expectation may be unrealistic. There's also the unanswered futures of Rashford and Antony -- do they come home or are they gone?

But if you're GLINEOS, sniveling shitbags all of them, you only care about being in the CL and hanging around the top four. That would enough to generate the return on investment they care about, be invited to the right parties and have nice things written about them by the media. Until they're gone this is all we can realistically expect from them, so perhaps we will only see 1-2 new players in this summer, maybe 1 next January, and another 1-2 the following summer. So it may well be the case that we'll see 8 of today's starters starting for us two seasons from now.

 

[DJ_21]

Well yes, that is obvious but I've already taken that into consideration. It still doesn't excuse Amorim being able to show, tell or coach the current players to do things better than what they are already showing. You can't just say 'play better, press higher, be more brave, be more attacking' (like Ole did), you need to actually have the ability to get the players to it. There are a lot of straight forward changes or tweaks that he can tell the players to do imo.

I do have faith in that he can bring the right players. I like Dorgu despite his rawness, I'd like Quenda and other midfield reinforcements but that's not the issue here. He needs to show he can get a raise out of players outside of ideals. I'm being harsh perhaps but he's got to either realise this sooner or show it for his own sake.

Ye but you can only coach players so much. If they aren’t capable of actually doing what he wants then he needs to get rid. We see him every game shaking his head at something which shows he didn’t ask for that to happen. Pep replaces all the players that don’t follow his instructions. That’s exactly what we neee to do with Amorim. I’m sure he’d have wanted Dalot to square it to Hojlund when he had the chance.

 

[Tosicsleftpeg]

I'm convinced that towards the end of the season the youth will get a chance. Games against Arsenal etc are not a good time to be throwing in youth players from the start. However Leicester away I think Chido and heaven will get a game.

 

[Wing Attack Plan R]

Minimum requirements for Wile E. Amorim, super genius: win half of the remaining 10 league games, advance to the next round of the Europa. Anyone think he can do it? I don't.

 

[Steve 007]

It’s absolutely crazy that Amorim has his head on the block. Just crazy.
Man Utd were the lowest and worst we’ve ever seen them in the premier league era. Have we all forgot Liverpool putting 7 past us. SEVEN.

He’s taken over the worst Man Utd at the worst time. The idea it’s his fault and he should have saved us is crazy. The whole club was and is in turmoil and crises and INOES have rightly said you need to get rid of high earning underperforming deadwood. They have also probably said that they can’t at the moment replace them and that he just has to get on with it.

Let’s see what the summer brings and get behind our manager. He’s got one hand tied behind his back but he’ll do better in time.

 

[AshRK]

Or they might hide away and lose confidence. You can’t force them in, they have to be ready for it.

Or they might take their chances and save us millions in transfers.

 

[Dannn411]

Minimum requirements for Wile E. Amorim, super genius: win half of the remaining 10 league games, advance to the next round of the Europa. Anyone think he can do it? I don't.

No chance. We only have a chance to win two games at best. Our run of games till the end that starts this Sunday against Arsenal surely has to be up there with the toughest remaining schedules. It is absolutely brutal. Minus Liverpool, every other big team or form team you can think of is in there. City, Forest, Arsenal, Chelsea, Bournemouth, Newcastle, Brentford, Villa.

 

[Toshey]

He's an absolute disgrace. No respect for the club or for European football.
He goes to every match dressed in the pullover with a zip.
He never wears a suit.
He's never said "thank you" for being given the United job. Not once have I heard him say "thank you."
He's not interested in winning. He needs to come back when he's interested in us telling him how to make a winning team.

What the feck is this post?

 

[Pexbo]

What the feck is this post?

Satire of Trump

 

[fergiewherearethou]

Satire of Trump

A brilliant one I might add.

 

[Toshey]

Satire of Trump

Oh I see!

 

[Onanawhatsmyname]

It’s absolutely crazy that Amorim has his head on the block. Just crazy.
Man Utd were the lowest and worst we’ve ever seen them in the premier league era. Have we all forgot Liverpool putting 7 past us. SEVEN.

He’s taken over the worst Man Utd at the worst time. The idea it’s his fault and he should have saved us is crazy. The whole club was and is in turmoil and crises and INOES have rightly said you need to get rid of high earning underperforming deadwood. They have also probably said that they can’t at the moment replace them and that he just has to get on with it.

Let’s see what the summer brings and get behind our manager. He’s got one hand tied behind his back but he’ll do better in time.

This x 1000%

To be honest Amorim is too good for Utd, I am embarrassed at what Glineos have served him up so far.

As well as being a top tactician he seems a genuinely nice bloke.

For anyone saying he’s not a top tactician, spend some time studying what he did at Sporting, given time and the right players he will get us back to where we all want to be.

 

[Matt851]

This x 1000%

To be honest Amorim is too good for Utd, I am embarrassed at what Glineos have served him up so far.

As well as being a top tactician he seems a genuinely nice bloke.

For anyone saying he’s not a top tactician, spend some time studying what he did at Sporting, given time and the right players he will get us back to where we all want to be.

What he did at sporting was impressive but there is no certainty it can work in the pl, and it's not clear how many transfer windows he would need to get the players in to be clear on whether it works. Hence why people are calling for some kind of adaptability.