There are a number of players whose futures are in doubt. Intensity is one of the basic requirements for the coach, and a number of players are either unable or unwilling to adopt.
There are two very distinct phases in Hugo Viana´s job at Sporting CP: before and after Ruben Amorim´s arrival.I often wonder how much of your success was down to Hugo Viana and your recruitment team vs Amorim and his coaching staff. Clearly Hugo did a very good job. You can see that from your net spend and the fact that he got the city job.
Hopefully, with the new leadership structure we've got, Amorim well have the same level of support or better. However, if it's worse, like it has been for several years, Amorim will probably not succeed. The only thing I expect from Amorim, is to get our team to play to it's talent level. Right now, based on talent, we're in that next bracket of 4/5 teams, after Arsenal, Liverpool and City.
Do you think that Viana will do well at Man City?There are two very distinct phases in Hugo Viana´s job at Sporting CP: before and after Ruben Amorim´s arrival.
Before he did not do a good job. Too many flops came into the team (Bolasie and Jese, just to name two). You can say he was inexperienced and had little money to spend but even though.... not good; after Ruben Amorim, Sporting started to generate more money with the sales and to buy better players. Some of them really good and real bargains. Amorim was the key decisor in some deals but others were attributed (even by Ruben) to team scouting only - Viana mainly.
What changed was that Ruben had a very important role as the "final call". Even when the scouting identified what it considered a good player and deal, if Ruben didn´t want him, he would not join the team; And if Ruben really wanted a player, Sporting did everything and beyond to bring him in
He is doing a lot of interviews. Need to get him off the camera and in the office. This is ridiculous from United to put pressure on the coach.
Explain. I don’t think the way the no.10 role is executed is set in stone.I’ve read some nonsense on here from you but this tops it all. Well done.
Again, you’re almost asking the manager to change his formation and expectations to adapt to the squad/ players at hand. Whilst not an unreasonable expectation at all, aren’t we all sick to death of these players being pandered to and inevitably letting everyone down, fans included? With respect, even moreso someone like Rashford who’s gone through prolonged periods of not looking like he gives a shite. Most of these players have had enough chances at the club. If they don’t fit in they should be shipped out and not “accommodated” anymore. (Of course these are, in reality, way easier said than done).A tweak in tactics could allow Rashford to play in one of the 10 positions. Try him as a left inside forward and have the striker play a false nine role.
Just thinking out loud. Or we could sent him on his way, if he’s not into football anymore.
This is what Arsenal did with Arteta and it obviously worked for them even though it meant selling some of their (at the time) better players. There’s no way to get around it.Again, you’re almost asking the manager to change his formation and expectations to adapt to the squad/ players at hand. Whilst not an unreasonable expectation at all, aren’t we all sick to death of these players being pandered to and inevitably letting everyone down, fans included? With respect, even moreso someone like Rashford who’s gone through prolonged periods of not looking like he gives a shite. Most of these players have had enough chances at the club. If they don’t fit in they should be shipped out and not “accommodated” anymore. (Of course these are, in reality, way easier said than done).
Yeah I didn't see it either. I'm not sold on him as a player but let's see what happens. Still waiting to see Kobbie.Its funny amorim said he learned Garnacho played well between the lines, but I didnt think that was the case from the match vs Ipswich.
This. If we are to progress we need to stick with a system and find the best performers. Not alter our plans to accommodate out of form players in a hope they find form again.Again, you’re almost asking the manager to change his formation and expectations to adapt to the squad/ players at hand. Whilst not an unreasonable expectation at all, aren’t we all sick to death of these players being pandered to and inevitably letting everyone down, fans included? With respect, even moreso someone like Rashford who’s gone through prolonged periods of not looking like he gives a shite. Most of these players have had enough chances at the club. If they don’t fit in they should be shipped out and not “accommodated” anymore. (Of course these are, in reality, way easier said than done).
Yeah, and to make things worse, we just went through a manager who was appointed for playing some really attractive football but felt he needed to change his ways to fit the squad. Look where it's gotten him/us. Now we've appointed Amorim, on the back of the success of his very distinct set up, but we're asking him to make tweaks here and there just to shoehorn in some players - & out of sorts players at that (it's not exactly prime Ronaldo/Messi, is it?)...and if it all goes pear shaped, we're all sat there scratching our heads, wondering how it happened, cursing the manager.This is what Arsenal did with Arteta and it obviously worked for them even though it meant selling some of their (at the time) better players. There’s no way to get around it.
Again, its just excuses by us United fans. If players are not willing, dont play them, that is what other top managers do.
Its actually false what you have said btw.. Chelsea had Potter and Poch and those players did not show a style, yet Maresca took over and showed style, so that theory is out the window.
Where has Bruno publicly said he wont change his style? I have read that he is perfectly capable of changing style because he plays different styles. Can you show me a link where Bruno specifically says he wont change how he plays?
Exactly. These players have done nothing of note to warrant such adjustment. Why should a manager adjust to the players’ way when you have evidence that they have been dogshit for multiple managers now?Again, you’re almost asking the manager to change his formation and expectations to adapt to the squad/ players at hand. Whilst not an unreasonable expectation at all, aren’t we all sick to death of these players being pandered to and inevitably letting everyone down, fans included? With respect, even moreso someone like Rashford who’s gone through prolonged periods of not looking like he gives a shite. Most of these players have had enough chances at the club. If they don’t fit in they should be shipped out and not “accommodated” anymore. (Of course these are, in reality, way easier said than done).
It´s possible but I have my doubts. May be too much for himDo you think that Viana will do well at Man City?
As he should be. Out of the NT, no improvement in performances at club level. Seems like he doesn’t care about football anymore.Rashford is in serious trouble based on his quotes.
He can't play wingback.
He's a terrible fit for one of the two no. 10 positions, and Amorim made it clear that he can't handle no. 9
Just because you repeat it across the match day thread and here, doesn't quite make it true. Give him and the team time. I fear you want to be right more than you want the team to succeed.Formation doesn't work with our players.
Welcome to RedCafe!Just because you repeat it across the match day thread and here, doesn't quite make it true. Give him and the team time. I fear you want to be right more than you want the team to succeed.
Nothing works with our players as they’re mentally weak, physically weak, slow in transition, entitled and seem to believe they’re far better than they areFormation doesn't work with our players.
Amen.Exactly. These players have done nothing of note to warrant such adjustment. Why should a manager adjust to the players’ way when you have evidence that they have been dogshit for multiple managers now?
How does Amorim look ‘way too soft’?Another one will bite the dust, it seems. Probably it's a bit early to say, but Amorim looks way to soft for our team.If I was him I would look at the academy potential if I intent to implement some style or philosophy of the game in this team.Because he won't go anywhere with this lot.
Another one will bite the dust, it seems. Probably it's a bit early to say, but Amorim looks way to soft for our team.If I was him I would look at the academy potential if I intent to implement some style or philosophy of the game in this team.Because he won't go anywhere with this lot.
It's his second game having come in at short notice mid-season, I'm not one to give managers slack, I was hard ETH out at the end of last season... But give the man some time and let's see how we're doing and what team he settles on after he has had at least a pre-seasons worth of games ffs.Again, its just excuses by us United fans. If players are not willing, dont play them, that is what other top managers do.
Yes we are also moving the ball way quicker when possibleEnjoying what I'm seeing so far. Ignore the score and opposition for now, it's easy on the eye and we are pressing for the ball more coherently than at anytime under ETH.
Really hasn't taken long to see these system changes
Someone should tell him subbing before the 80th minute is forbidden at United.Credit the proactive sub at half time. If it is tactical and not medical.
Almost everyone talk about Bruno's body language when his game is not going well...How does Amorim look ‘way too soft’?
