Honestly i don't give a flying feck how he talks. He could be a shouting monster telling crap about our players i wouldn't give a shite as long as the team starts to show some lifesigns. Only results matter. We had some sweet talking guys in charge already, like Ole or Moyes and they all failed.
Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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I've always thought this. I think its part of why he had so much more success at Ajax, where he could communicate in Dutch. It wasn't that his English was bad, but it always felt quite stilted and I think it probably made communicating his ideas that much more difficult.
Really enjoyed his interview with Neville and the press conference, very open and honest, his assessment of the Rashford/casemiro situation was expertly handled.
He backs himself, but I must admit I enjoyed the line when he said if it doesn't work out the world will still turn!Perspective.
He backs himself, but I must admit I enjoyed the line when he said if it doesn't work out the world will still turn!Perspective.
He speaks flawlessly and comes across very humble. I think hel be the perfect blend that we are looking for.
Of course I mean in the context of our present CBs. Martinez has a great left foot and can break the lines but the others are not great passers. I don't think anyone of our CBs is great at carrying the ball except for maybe Shaw. Caveat, I have never seen Yoro play. Maybe he will consider Mazraoui as RCB and he is a baller.
I want to believe if he promotes youth in the interim where his first teamers refuse to abide by his principles, a lot of fans will actually be patient.
I also think the club needs to get rid of all of such players asap.
I think the moment certain players feel you have to play them anyway regardless of what they do, you've lost control and there's only one outcome.
Bit interesting when Amorim was explaining Wilcox role to Gary, he mentioned “we have good players but we should have better players for what i have seen” regarding youth team.
Will be interesting to see which players are promoted from Academy and what changes he brings to Academy
Will be interesting to see which players are promoted from Academy and what changes he brings to Academy
Did he, though? He said that the club let them do what they wanted on their sparetime, but he also said "us as a club has to set better standards."
So he agreed with Neville.
This is music to my ears. The most frustrating thing about ETH style was our insistence on trying to hurt the opposition within milliseconds of winning the ball back, the complete lack of patience in building attacks, over reliance on low percentage killer passes. It resulted in endless turnovers and frankly our ball retention was mostly embarrassing. It also caused us endless defensive issues whereby we'd gift the opposition opportunities to hit us in transition because we lose the ball so cheap and so often. And we didn't have the athleticism and speed in midfield/centre back to defend these endless transitions.
Exactly. As much as people want to hate Neville, he was clearly right. If you’re doing that shit at your job (14th in league and dropped from national team) don’t go doing stupid things like that. Keane also agreed with him by basically saying some of those didn’t because they were not and would never have been 14th in the league.
Amorim clearly agreed and the club needs higher standards and also players like Keane to keep the dressing room in check
Good trolling that.
What misery did you find in that post? I’m excited about a new coach coming in with fresh ideas and hopeful about how he can improve certain players (Hojlund being one of them). However, I’m also cautious and not getting too carried away thinking we’ve just acquired the best guy available. He can talk all he wants, but until it shows on the pitch consistently, game after game, it’s just talk.
If you want me to be truly miserable, I can point out that he was absolutely dominated by City in their most recent CL encounter, to the point where they should have been 4-1 or 4-2 down after the first half and make an argument that he's maybe not that great of a coach. He himself said that they were lucky to not be 4 goals down by half time in his post match press conference.
It’s a good thing he acknowledged it, and even better that they weren’t as dominated in the second half. That clearly shows he made some effective adjustments during halftime.
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I'd like nothing more than to see our more of our youth players get chances but there needs to be a balance. Promoting youth at Sporting is so much more different than promoting youth at United in the PL. As Amorim himself said, we are a global club. There's a lot more scrutiny, pressure and expectations if you are playing for United. I hope he's sensible enough to see who are the young players ready for the first team rather than just throwing them in just for the sake of it like LVG did.
I agree we'd all be more lenient if he promoted youth but I'd say we'd be more happy if he actually gets our under performing first team players to improve.
That really reads like how we portuguese say it
If you’ve watched us play the last several years you can actually believe this.
Just by hearing Ruben talk, you can tell the players will buy into him and his idea of football.
In fairness, @saik makes some cogent points. I feel excited too, but we don’t need to compare or denigrate ETH. He made an important contribution. Only after Mou left did we come to appreciate what he achieved with so much askew at virtually every level in the club.
Man shesster U neeyited. Sounds russian
Good that Amo has quickly put to bed this notion that because he is considered a ‘head coach’ that he won’t have the input to transfer dealings.
It was obvious that the guy who will ultimately carry the can if it goes poorly would have a major role in recruitment.
It was obvious that the guy who will ultimately carry the can if it goes poorly would have a major role in recruitment.
Yup. It is obvious that a) Casemiro, Eriksen, Zirkzee and Mainoo are not strong runners, b) Rashford and Garnacho do not track back, c) Rashford and Höjlund are poor at ball retention.
really liked how he handled the media in the presser. "I know you guys don't believe in these players but I do" was a line that particularly stuck out.
That is a brilliant answer about Rashford & Casemiro trip to USA. Neville for all his foolishness thinks (if he was in their place) he wouldn't made that decision to travel. He wouldn't do it because he couldn't... As clubs standards were firmly by the time he came into the team and even his teammates would resent him for such decision.
In any case, he comes across really, really well. Hope he keeps that smile with him as long as possible.
Being a really, really good communicator is a great start at nearly any job.
I'm trying to take a wait and see approach but it's very bloody hard not to get excited with this guy.
I'm trying to take a wait and see approach but it's very bloody hard not to get excited with this guy.
Calm down Ed Woodward.
Just win on Sunday now please
Hopefully it'll go well on Sunday. Ipswich won for the first time before the International break so will have confidence for this one (and at home).
Well I am officially excited!
Charisma is good and all but Pep is a proper weirdo and only has charisma due to winning so much. If he came to a big club fresh without prior conection like he did with Barca he would have been seen as a non charismatic bald figure.
So its something related to reputation and results as well. I remember when Ten Hag first arrived and won his games, his style of communication was described as no nonsense and "made the journalists shat themselves". Then the 7-0 Liverpool game happened and he lost that overnight.
So its something related to reputation and results as well. I remember when Ten Hag first arrived and won his games, his style of communication was described as no nonsense and "made the journalists shat themselves". Then the 7-0 Liverpool game happened and he lost that overnight.
Can’t help but ride the new manager wave. Enjoyed every answer he gave in the press conference.
God only knows how long this feeling will last, so I’ll just savour it while I can. Really looking forward to the game on Sunday, and it feels like it’s been too long since I last felt that way.
God only knows how long this feeling will last, so I’ll just savour it while I can. Really looking forward to the game on Sunday, and it feels like it’s been too long since I last felt that way.
trophies are for ego, heh.
No, but seriously. I would take consistently playing well and making slow progress over progressing backwards, playing torrid football and papering over the cracks with trophies like the Carabao or FA Cup, which I don't really care about all that much. The former is what leads to the big trophies in the long term.
It is refreshing that he answers with an honest straight answer and not being cryptic, guarded or mysterious. I like WYSIWYG, I do appreciate his approach to the media and I think it makes it easier to trust him.
There’s a reason Ole was sacked. It’s mad that people have forgotten and choose to wistfully compare him to ten Hag
Just win games and perform well. I don't care about his sweet talks.
Sack him.
Braga is in Spain
Obviously, but here we're talking about the specific scenario where you described having to play boys who refuse to run back due to a lack of options. There should be absolute zero tolerance if that's the case. That should be unequivocal. That's the only way we can root out remnants of such a culture. Basically do what Arteta did with the likes of Aubameyang. And if there's no replacement in the first team, even if for the interim (till the next window), promote youth.
If we don't, the manager (head coach) has no hope, as indiscipline will spread like a virus.
I do think the problem with Neville is that he often refers to standards and things in his day. While you United were a top club then, we're talking 30 years since he broke into the team and over 10 years since he retired. Football has changed, society has changed and people have changed. That's not to say there's nothing to learn but going to New York for a few days isn't all that dramatic.
Like you, I think Amorim handled the question perfectly.
Amorim also more or less said that kind of thing won’t be happening again, so while not being dramatic, still wasn’t right