Hugh Jass
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I actually youtubed their songs when i posted it.
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Christ what a misery guts you are.Let's see what he says after a few months. If we get hammered 4-0 by someone(I pray that those days are over), will he still believe in his system? Or more importantly, can he get the players to still buy into his system? That will be the real test of his character.
It’s easy to criticize ETH now, but when he was appointed, he said all the right things—pressing high, not losing the ball, and if we do, we win it back quickly. These were the principles he emphasized, yet he couldn’t get the team to execute them consistently. There were matches where his ideas were evident, but then there were others where the players just couldn’t be bothered to apply them.
Ironically, the U-18s seem to carry out these tactics without issue. Sure, they concede the odd goal here and there, but they often score 4-5 goals, making it irrelevant. So, it begs the question: Is it the players who couldn’t implement his system, or is it ETH himself who failed to instill it properly? Probably a bit both as is the case with these things most of the time.
I have no doubts that ETH had to go but let's wait a bit and see how Amorim and the players react when faced with adversity now.
We’ve all got PTSD, I think let’s agree to not mention his name againAre people forgetting that this is EtH well into his United career. I remember he was very hung ho on his principles as well, and then we got destroyed our first two games.
I've always thought this. I think its part of why he had so much more success at Ajax, where he could communicate in Dutch. It wasn't that his English was bad, but it always felt quite stilted and I think it probably made communicating his ideas that much more difficult.I think it was rehearsed or premeditated. I think his grasp of English, while workable, wasn't fantastic. So he had to revert to cliché or something he had said previously. It's why his interviews were the same. I don't think he had the ability in English to both express himself properly and give political answers, which you have to do as United coach. It can work in Holland, or a team with less scrutiny, but not here.
Of course I mean in the context of our present CBs. Martinez has a great left foot and can break the lines but the others are not great passers. I don't think anyone of our CBs is great at carrying the ball except for maybe Shaw. Caveat, I have never seen Yoro play. Maybe he will consider Mazraoui as RCB and he is a baller.There is no way in this day and age people are still this illiterate when it comes to football.
I want to believe if he promotes youth in the interim where his first teamers refuse to abide by his principles, a lot of fans will actually be patient.I'm not sure what your point is? All I'm saying is Amorim can say those things in these press conferences, I'll wait until he get the players to actually show it on the pitch. If Garnacho and Rashford fail to track back and he's forced into picking them due to lack of other decent options or injuries or whatever, do we blame another coach in Amorim too for letting the standards slip?
As I keep saying, it's both. Players also have the responsibility to maintain their standards. Shouldn't always need someone else to keep reminding them.
He shut Gary Neville up on Rashford and Casemiro already.
Exactly. As much as people want to hate Neville, he was clearly right. If you’re doing that shit at your job (14th in league and dropped from national team) don’t go doing stupid things like that. Keane also agreed with him by basically saying some of those didn’t because they were not and would never have been 14th in the league.Did he, though? He said that the club let them do what they wanted on their sparetime, but he also said "us as a club has to set better standards."
So he agreed with Neville.
What misery did you find in that post? I’m excited about a new coach coming in with fresh ideas and hopeful about how he can improve certain players (Hojlund being one of them). However, I’m also cautious and not getting too carried away thinking we’ve just acquired the best guy available. He can talk all he wants, but until it shows on the pitch consistently, game after game, it’s just talk.Christ what a misery guts you are.
I'd like nothing more than to see our more of our youth players get chances but there needs to be a balance. Promoting youth at Sporting is so much more different than promoting youth at United in the PL. As Amorim himself said, we are a global club. There's a lot more scrutiny, pressure and expectations if you are playing for United. I hope he's sensible enough to see who are the young players ready for the first team rather than just throwing them in just for the sake of it like LVG did.I want to believe if he promotes youth in the interim where his first teamers refuse to abide by his principles, a lot of fans will actually be patient.
I also think the club needs to get rid of all of such players asap.
I think the moment certain players feel you have to play them anyway regardless of what they do, you've lost control and there's only one outcome.
That really reads like how we portuguese say itWe are ManShester Unaitd now
In fairness, @saik makes some cogent points. I feel excited too, but we don’t need to compare or denigrate ETH. He made an important contribution. Only after Mou left did we come to appreciate what he achieved with so much askew at virtually every level in the club.Christ what a misery guts you are.
Man shesster U neeyited. Sounds russianWe are ManShester Unaitd now
Yup. It is obvious that a) Casemiro, Eriksen, Zirkzee and Mainoo are not strong runners, b) Rashford and Garnacho do not track back, c) Rashford and Höjlund are poor at ball retention.It doesn't take an elite tactician to see that poor ball retention and poor conditioning are our two biggest issues. The question is can it be fixed with this group of players or do we just need new players.
Calm down Ed Woodward.Give him more money!
trophies are for ego, heh.Yet won nothing vs two trophies.
It is refreshing that he answers with an honest straight answer and not being cryptic, guarded or mysterious. I like WYSIWYG, I do appreciate his approach to the media and I think it makes it easier to trust him.Being a really, really good communicator is a great start at nearly any job.
There’s a reason Ole was sacked. It’s mad that people have forgotten and choose to wistfully compare him to ten Hagtrophies are for ego, heh.
No, but seriously. I would take consistently playing well and making slow progress over progressing backwards, playing torrid football and papering over the cracks with trophies like the Carabao or FA Cup, which I don't really care about all that much. The former is what leads to the big trophies in the long term.
Sack him.If you want me to be truly miserable, I can point out that he was absolutely dominated by City in their most recent CL encounter, to the point where they should have been 4-1 or 4-2 down after the first half and make an argument that he's maybe not that great of a coach. He himself said that they were lucky to not be 4 goals down by half time in his post match press conference.
Braga is in Spain