Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach

I think we have a potentially world class team but we've been poorly coached.

I don't think we need 3 windows and another 500 million, I think we need a clear system and the right coach and we'll be competing.

Our squad isn't worse than Arsenal or Liverpool, I believe that. What we have is no clarity for years, Klopp had his system and the way of play so well integrated that it's automatic now. Slot has benefited from that.

We have a young solid core of players. Plenty to be excited about. I think top 4 is achievable. If Villa can do it under Emery then we can get there under Amorim with a better squad
 
themanguydude said:
When you said "How having 3 at the back gives us advantage when building from the back? Recycling the ball between GK and CBs was never an issue for us even under Ole/ETH second season"

Aren't you implying that we don't need 3 at the back because building from the back was never an issue under Ole/ETH?

I'm telling you the reason it was never an issue is because we were effectively already playing 3 at the back under Ole/ETH.

The biggest difference is if you want to shuffle your lineup by dropping the DM/FB into the back line (and the other FB inverting into midfield), or you have a dedicated 3CB + 2 CM setup from the get go. 3-2-5 is basically what all top teams operate on these days. The structure is more or less the same, the difference is personnel
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Ah, I see how you read my comment. You thought that I meant that we didn't have problem playing out from the back, but it's not what I meant - I meant "recycling" the ball between CBs and GK was never an issue for us because the opponent wanted them to have the ball and just blocked the midfield/attacking players (that's why we always go long or out wide, that's been the case for years).

Adding one more CB will not make it easier, especially since we don't have any CBs that can drive the ball forward. Therefore, I see this as our weakness in 343. The poster I was replying to said having 3 at the back will help us in buildup, I asked why and still didn't get an answer.
 
He's the best personality we had post Fergie imo. He's young, charismatic, and says all the right things. Apart from Mourinho, all the other managers were a bit dull, and Mourinho was too toxic for his own good by the time he got here. Amorim feels like the right manager at the right time. It remains to be seen if that can be translated to the pitch or not. But I believe if he can show us just signs of where we could be, he'll be backed by the fans and the club. He's the kind of personality that everyone would love to have at the club.
 
Hope I am not wrong. It seems like to me Ruben hasn't had any conflict or negative relationship with players in his coach career so far unlike Jose or Erik? Seems like all the news about him are so positive so far.
 
Shark said:
Not to insult him either, but to add to that bolded part, I actually never felt like anyone ever had an organic conversation with ETH as Neville already had with Ruben. Maybe I'm wrong and didn't watch enough interviews, but it seemed he was almost listing off sound bites, rarely going into full details as opposed to actually having a conversation. It really makes me wonder how he was in his initial interview for the job, and how he blew anyone away.
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I think it was rehearsed or premeditated. I think his grasp of English, while workable, wasn't fantastic. So he had to revert to cliché or something he had said previously. It's why his interviews were the same. I don't think he had the ability in English to both express himself properly and give political answers, which you have to do as United coach. It can work in Holland, or a team with less scrutiny, but not here.
 
Zlatan 7 said:
Very impressive interview. His standards and data seems to be a thing no player will be able to hide from.

Nothing at all in the interview I disliked. He’s sounds good
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He seems a beautiful human being.

If he asked me to become gay, I’d sit down and discuss terms and conditions.
 
Interesting how he said the team needs to improve physically, and hinted in fitness too. It's something we've tried to address since Jose really and seem to never get right.P
 
Watched the press conference. I was really impressed with how open he was about everything including the fact that he might be wrong. I loved how he said the earth will still spin no matter what. Defended the players from an obvious bait question (they got EtH sacked, why do you believe in them) but still kept the door open for players to be shipped out if they don't perform.

I also liked how complimentary he was towards Jose and especially EtH. Believes Jose with his disciplinarian approach was right in his time and Ruben with his more friendly approach is right in this time. Seems like a class act all around. Hopefully he succeeds.
 
Hammondo said:
I agree, but Eth was not forced into it, he had options.
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Atleast on a lot of occasions he was forced into it. Sancho going AWOL few weeks into the last season, Amad injured for half the season, Antony going completely off the boil after the allegations. I'd say he was forced into picking those two a lot. Even then he dropped Rashford multiple times. This season he's been rotating between Amad, Rashford and Garnacho and there's not much difference between their playing times as none of them have shown enough to deserve to be an automatic starter.
 
Really stoked to see him take charge. Can’t wait to see the first 11 v Ipswich.

I’m thinking:

Onana
DeLigt Evans Martinez
Dalot Ugarte Casemiro Mazraoui
Amad. Bruno
Hojlund

I do not think this will be his first 11 for the rest of the season, just for this match. I don’t think he’ll start Yoro, Mount, Mainoo as they are coming back from injury, but I think they will see playing time. I think he’ll use all 5 subs. Would love see Rashford, Garnacho, Antony get an audition in the wingback roles.
 
He looks like an excellent communicator. I've watched some of the interview Amorim did with Gary Neville and he's very measured in the message he puts across.

I was particularly impressed by the way he answered the question on Casemiro and Rashford. The scrutiny around that situation has reached stupid levels (largely owing to Neville himself) and I think previous managers either would've been drawn into the circus of that or dodged the question entirely. He wasn't flustered by it at all and explained it in a non-emotional way which didn't make anyone look bad.

It's really simple but something the club have been terrible at in recent years. If players are idiots they deserve to be criticised but there are also a lot of young players who clearly don't have the tools to navigate the media pressure that comes their way and the club haven't done enough to protect them from that. Ferguson was a master of controlling the narrative. He channeled it in a different way to create a siege mentality but the fact that Amorim even has the ability to defuse a situation like that is a clear improvement on the managers who have come before him in the last decade.
 
3KDré said:
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EtH making excuses that they can't play his style is a bit of a cop out as that's his job to get them to play the way he sees the game being played

Amorim plans on doing just that and the players have to adapt and learn....definitely a bit of a gamble but if he believes in it then the players will as well eventually
 
bosskeano said:
EtH making excuses that they can't play his style is a bit of a cop out as that's his job to get them to play the way he sees the game being played

Amorim plans on doing just that and the players have to adapt and learn....definitely a bit of a gamble but if he believes in it then the players will as well eventually
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Username makes sense
 
He speaks very well. Ultimately, it’s what happens on the pitch that matters, but he’s positive, which is a start.
 
Plant0x84 said:
I like this a lot. He’s a dreamer, he believes, he knows he has to win and the players can win. It’s a stark contrast to all the talk of not good enough, not fit enough, process this, project that and it’ll take time.

Maybe it really will be different this time? :confused:
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If you listen to the full interview he mentions several times that it won't be an immediate fix and will take time. What I think is exciting is that he has clear standards and seems set on how he wants to play and is prepared to suffer a little to implement it. Some new players will be necessary for sure for us to be challenging for the title, but he seems confident that this group can embody his style if they improve in certain areas. But improving fitness levels, willingness to press, making the right decisions with the ball, these are not things that can be fixed in a week or two.
 
3KDré said:
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Yeah man. We all massively called it when EtH shy’d away from his style and chose instead “to be the best transition team” as a “wtf” moment. We’d have had more “respect” (& even patience) if he stuck to his guns. Even if results weren’t great, 99% of the Caf just wanted to see “progress in a defined style of play”. Alas, I actually liked ten Hag, so will stop flogging that dead horse.
 
3KDré said:
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Not to defend ETH but this interview was done during a rocky spell last season. It's easier for Amorim to talk the talk about the style of play after a positive first few days than a guy who is fighting for his job.

I don't recall how ETH was talking before he had his first game but I imagine it wasn't like this.

That said, I liked everything about Amorim's interview and from a communication/likeability perspective I think it easily trumps any interview our previous managers have done.
 
I’m not really into man love, but I feel I could make an exception for Amourhim. The guy just makes football sound soooo sexy & exotic.
 
saivet said:
Not to defend ETH but this interview was done during a rocky spell last season. It's easier for Amorim to talk the talk about the style of play after a positive first few days than a guy who is fighting for his job.

I don't recall how ETH was talking before he had his first game but I imagine it wasn't like this.

That said, I liked everything about Amorim's interview and from a communication/likeability perspective I think it easily trumps any interview our previous managers have done.
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I did consider this, the only other sit down video was after his first two losses : Brentford and Brighton. He was a bit more energetic but still jittery.
 
One thing I liked about his press conference was his honesty though. While he acknowledged getting United back to winning the PL in 2 seasons might not be possible, he was pretty clear in saying that 2 seasons is enough time to know if this is the right guy. There is a process, but it's not a free hit. Personally, I found the way ETH talked around this was frustrating, with a lot of excuses.
 
Very good interview with Neville. He's aware of the standards required and they were once at the club. In time if some players aren't onboard or unable then it's time to go. The real goal is to win each game, not land top four sometimes or washup a distant second twice.
 
Just watched his press conference. He was impressive dealing with some leading questions.

I sense a certain toughness in that young man.....

Let's see what happens... I am slightly optimistic..
 
CM said:
He looks like an excellent communicator. I've watched some of the interview Amorim did with Gary Neville and he's very measured in the message he puts across.

I was particularly impressed by the way he answered the question on Casemiro and Rashford. The scrutiny around that situation has reached stupid levels (largely owing to Neville himself) and I think previous managers either would've been drawn into the circus of that or dodged the question entirely. He wasn't flustered by it at all and explained it in a non-emotional way which didn't make anyone look bad.

It's really simple but something the club have been terrible at in recent years. If players are idiots they deserve to be criticised but there are also a lot of young players who clearly don't have the tools to navigate the media pressure that comes their way and the club haven't done enough to protect them from that. Ferguson was a master of controlling the narrative. He channeled it in a different way to create a siege mentality but the fact that Amorim even has the ability to defuse a situation like that is a clear improvement on the managers who have come before him in the last decade.
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Absolutely correct.
 
Anyone else feeling giddy and going through interviews, press and anything available?
Feels like Christmas :lol:
 
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