Ross Barkley | Stays at Everton
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No surprise, Spurs are already balls deep into this. He didnt want to sign an extension for a reason
Will be a good move for him. Makes the step up without getting into a club with crazy pressure, good setup, good manager, nice young team. Good for him.
Barkely can definitely be a great CM. The AM position is a bit too forward for him and was only suited to his shooting ability. Look forward to seeing that.
He'll do great at Spurs and in a year or two people on here will be moaning we should have bought him.
He'll do well - if he does - because of their settled system and Pochettino's excellent man-managing and coaching. We've had/have a deep-rooted issue with having a settled system and coherent style of football for the past four years, and it's a big part of why many talented players in our squad haven't looked the best.
A midfield three of Dier Barkley and Alli would be very nice to see. Not only for Spurs, but for England too.
Always felt Ross' future has been as a deeper midfielder, providing he has someone next to him to do the leg work - very similar to Pogba, in that respect.
I really believe Poch will take him to a different level if he goes to Spurs.
Always felt Ross' future has been as a deeper midfielder, providing he has someone next to him to do the leg work - very similar to Pogba, in that respect.
I really believe Poch will take him to a different level if he goes to Spurs.
I agree with many here would be a good move for him. Pochettino seems a great manager at working with younger players to function in his sides.
In footballing terms Barkley isnt really a youngster now, what is he 23? He is frustrating as in terms of a footballing brain and decision making he hasnt progressed much from when he broke through. I thought Koeman would have a good effect on him but sadly not.
I would like to see him do well, as in terms of talent, Barkley is one of the very few English players that has real genuine ability at the moment in my opinion, the clock is ticking and he needs to hit the ground running with any move, but im pretty sure Gazza didnt even get his first England cap until he was the same age.
I would love us to sign the Ross Barkley that he should now be, I wouldnt sign the Ross Barkley that he currently is though. Saying that £25m could be an absolute bargain and signing of the summer if somebody can get the best out of him.
His defensive stats are pretty kak though.
They would obviously improve if he were to play deeper.
Not neccearily. A lot of attacking midfielders have good defensive stats. He doesnt. Could be another rooney. People assume he'll be good playing deeper when in reality nothing could be further from the truth.
Not convinced Spurs will be willing to part with the money it will take to bring him there, especially given their lack of business thus far. I have reservations he'd handle the step-up to a top six side either even under Poch. He's frequently flattered to deceive at Everton throughout his time there.
I agree that Barkley isn't the greatest defensively, but he'd obviously be involved in more physical confrontations in the middle of the park. There's a lot more going on, and it's inevitable that they would improve.
Also, you talk as if Barkley has never played centre midfield. He has played there quite often. If partnered next to a combative player in the middle, he could succeed there, in my opinion.
We want to return to being a top team in Europe so we should buy, at the very least top players in their respective leagues in their respective position.
We did that with Lukaku and Matic. To buy players that we think might come good under the right circumstances is not what we should do. We have our homegrown players who we can give that benefit to. I can see teams like Bayern, RM and Barca having a look at Lukaku, Matic, Pogba and Martial but I does anyone think that they would look at Barkley?
We did that with Lukaku and Matic. To buy players that we think might come good under the right circumstances is not what we should do. We have our homegrown players who we can give that benefit to. I can see teams like Bayern, RM and Barca having a look at Lukaku, Matic, Pogba and Martial but I does anyone think that they would look at Barkley?
How much money are you assuming will be needed?
Yes, he started as a central midfielder. The fact that his managers pushed him further forward could be indicative of them not being very impressed with his performance there.
Maybe not so much that they weren't very impressed, but more so because he's better when pushed further forward.
It's a very similar situation to Pogba. However, that's not to say they are not good when deeper. Barkley has displayed excellent performances as a deep midfielder.
I agree.
I think the last thing we need is another player in his area of the pitch who is hopelessly inconsistent and has at least as many bad games as good ones. We have enough of these players already. His decision-making is almost always atrocious and will have fans pulling their hair out.
At this stage, probably not, but why does that matter. Teams play in different ways and managers have their own performance of player.
Having said that, whether it's true or not, he has been recently linked to Barcelona, and a few years ago, Xavi said he's the type of player that would be ideal for Barcelona.
Xavi on Sterling and Barkley: "They have incredible physical capabilities and they are good technically. In Spain, we prioritise players who are technically gifted but both things are very important in football."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...cceed-at-Barcelona-says-club-legend-Xavi.html
Well I think you managed to shut me up with that quote but I will leave it up to Mourinho.
.....And Pele reckoned Nicky Butt was the player of the tournament in the 2002 WC
I remember laughing when Pele said "I like Butt"....childish I know.
A lightbulb went on.... "Now him taking dick pills makes sense"
That is some real back handed compliments.
Would love him to stay and for us to snag him on a free after his contract expires. Still young and could yet fulfill his potential. Would be nice to add to our dwindling English core, too.
Only only only if he comes for a scandalously low fee.
Even then he'd be cover.
Even then he'd be cover.
Surprised he hasn't been snapped up tbh.
I know he's injured etc but still.
Will end up at Chelski IMO.
I know he's injured etc but still.
Will end up at Chelski IMO.
I never watch Everton play. Is it fair to say Barkley is someone who never really kicked on from their teenage potential, never developed much after being hyped up?
That's correct.
Paul Joyce saying he's out for around 3 months.
Spot on. He's another Wilshire.
If he goes to Spurs I see him becoming their new David Bentley. I really don't rate Barkley at all, has flashes of brilliance but as I see it that's about it. I've seen him live a few times in derby matches and he's pretty much always anonymous where you'd think it'd be the one match he's most pumped for and eager to perform. Even my Evertonian mates are apathetic about him leaving, in fact most want rid of him.
He should've remained silent and focused on playing another season at Everton. Although the way things are looking so far, that could still yet happen. No top club is exactly banging on Everton's door for him. The top clubs probably don't think Barkley is or will be good enough for them.
Crying out for Newcastle or Swansea to come in for him. Even a stoke.
I think his poor form has cost him, top tier prem clubs don't seem to be interested.
He needs to take the hit, move to a similar standing/lesser club than Everton, maintain a regular starting spot and play himself into form. If he has a couple of good seasons playing regularly at, say a Swansea, he'll get a move to a bigger club.
He needs to do a Glyfi in effect, didn't work for him at Spurs, went backwards, improved and now has got what he deserves, a big move
I think his poor form has cost him, top tier prem clubs don't seem to be interested.
He needs to take the hit, move to a similar standing/lesser club than Everton, maintain a regular starting spot and play himself into form. If he has a couple of good seasons playing regularly at, say a Swansea, he'll get a move to a bigger club.
He needs to do a Glyfi in effect, didn't work for him at Spurs, went backwards, improved and now has got what he deserves, a big move
He's going nowhere, if that's the case. Poor Spurs.
With a hard work and right mentality, Barkley will be a good Midfielder. If Jordan Henderson can be labelled New Gerard, with all of his limitation, Barkley with higher technical ability can also be labelled New Lampard, is not he.
Worth to gamble. Still has a room to increase.
Worth to gamble. Still has a room to increase.
Jordan Henderson isn't even the new Danny Murphy never mind Gerrard
very limited and average player and not captain material either. Neither will be Barkley ever be close to the quality of Lampard. People have been waiting for him to show his potential for years now, I think he's shown all there actually is in his locker.Rejected a move to Chelsea
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