Ah! That's fair and I agree.
Ross Barkley | Stays at Everton
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Could see levy flogging Ali for a fortune if he got Barkley
Honestly not sure how you would fit Erikson Ali and Barkley in the team and I can't see spuds spunking £50m on a sub
Barkley can be groomed to replace Dembele......
We won't - not a for player who'll go for free in 12 months time if not sold now. We'll likely wait a while yet in this window. And if Everton find a buyer elsewhere for more than we'll offer - and if Barkley is willing to go to this other club - then so be it.
But otherwise Everton will have to accept a lot less than £50m. I'd be surprised if we'll offer more than £30m, perhaps less.
He will improve surrounded by better players and manager.
Barkley & Lukaku. 
I don't rate him that highly. At least not as highly as I expected I would two or three years ago. I know he's 'only' 23, turning 24 later this year, but he still seems quite a clumsy player. Non-finessed and not to the forgivable degree you sometimes expect from a younger player. Not sure I'd be confident about him becoming a top-level, Champions League player.
Not a fan. Give it Spuds.
Used to really rate the guy but his development has stalled tremendously over the past couple of seasons. Would take him on a free but I can't see that happening given the state of the current market.
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Inconsistent scouser playing for us. He'd get absolutely slaughtered by our fans.
Don't think any of the top six will bother with him this season. Next season on a free is his best shot.
Don't think any of the top six will bother with him this season. Next season on a free is his best shot.
Yes, for 30 to 40 million he would be a bargain. I still believe we need to sign a defensive mid as well, ideally him and a defensive mid in, fellaini out.
Really don't think he is all that special, Everton is about the right level for him. Would be a little underwhelmed if we bought him.
At he right price I think all would be interested (Well possibly not Liverpool due to local rivalry) more to do with home grown quota rules though rather than his form last season
We already have more than enough shit English players.
He's unbelievably hard done by on here, in part due to his nationality. For the right price I would take him. Under the right manager, and in this case I definitely think Mourinho could get the best out of him, Barkley can be a gem. Technically, he's magnificent (only lads that have never played will claim otherwise). He scores goals, can pick a pass, can beat players from a stand still. Yes, he's somewhat inconsistent, but that can be worked upon.
At present, after Herrera and Pogba we turn to Fellaini. With Pereira in the mix, then Barkley, then we'd be extremely strong in depth, with genuinely exciting options in central midfield.
I think we should be all over this.
At present, after Herrera and Pogba we turn to Fellaini. With Pereira in the mix, then Barkley, then we'd be extremely strong in depth, with genuinely exciting options in central midfield.
I think we should be all over this.
I'd be crazy to want Barkley over Alexis.
Who's that then?
He has good potential, for the right price I'd welcome him. Mourinho might do wonders with him yet.
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Let's replace them all with shit foreigners, that'll work.
But, the thing is all the things you say he can do he does none of them consistently. Which makes a lot of that moot.
I don't really understand how many people on here see josé as a good fit for him. Barkley seems very weak mentally, like a bona fide confidence player if I ever saw one, and José's lashing out in public get-your-shit-together strategy is just going to make it worse. Heck, we already have Mkhi and Shaw
I did caveat that by saying I think he needs the right move and the right manager. If Barkley can piece these things together, I think he can be a brilliant player. It's not a guarantee, but it's worth the punt.
A big if
Magnificent is a bit strong, surely? If you're comparing him to other English players then I can understand it...but if he's magnificent then I don't know what you would describe the dozens of elite playmakers as.
For what it's worth I think he'd be a good signing too. This seems to be meeting hyperbole on one side with hyperbole on the other though.
As opposed to our players, they are all models of consistency ?
If Barkley is technically magnificent then there aren't really all that many words left to describe the players who are better than him. Where does someone like Iniesta fit on the Ross Barkley scale of awe-inspiring technical ability?
Playing football might have made you a better judge of footballers than us plebs but I'm not sure it has worked the same magic on your choice of adjectives.
Well, he's no Iniesta, and I wouldn't get too hung up on the wording. But technical ability is more than the sort of elegance and trickery you'd associate with the Thiago's, Modric's and Pogba's of the world. Barkley isn't that sophisticated, but there's always been a bit of the young Wayne Rooney about him in that his technical qualities are probably undervalued. I think Bale suffers from it, too.
I think the portrayal (it's rife on here) that English lads are blundering idiots with no real technical ability is grossly unfair, and in regards to Barkley in particular, I think there's very little he can't do with a football.
His main issue is consistency. It's a massive if, as highlighted above, but there's something about Barkley as a footballer that I really like and I think on the grand stage there's a real possibility he pieces it all together.
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But, have we seen any signs of that? If anything his bad habits have been getting worse over time.
If Barkley is technically magnificent then there aren't really all that many words left to describe the players who are better than him. Where does someone like Iniesta fit on the Ross Barkley scale of awe-inspiring technical ability?
Playing football might have made you a better judge of footballers than us plebs but I'm not sure it has worked the same magic on your choice of adjectives.
Bit strong an adjective, in hindsight, as you're not the first to pick up on it. But I think we're talking semantics here a little. Basically, I think he's great technically, in particular his ball striking. I remember an argument I had on here about him a little while back, about him being some kind of physical oaf, and I think it's very unfair.
I thought he was very good the season before last, to be fair. I'm not really disagreeing with you, it's just a gut feeling I've got.
Agreed
I'd take him for £30m. He'd be a good squad option and maybe he could step up to be first team potential.
Is he not an attacking midfielder? He'd be third in the pecking order. 4th if we sign Griezmann.
We've had so many average players over recent years, a bit of genuine talent comes along and everyone shouts him down.
Surprised he's only 23. Feels like he's been around for a lot longer.
Pogba, Micky and Mata are all better players. Not to mention, there's a high chance Griezmann will join us next year.
I for one am devastated.
The jury is out on Micky, Mata is in and out of the team and form, Pogba we all hope will join the elite of world talents -but it is still a hope- while a year is a long way off for the Griezeman deal. Unless it is the manager not getting the best out of all these players, we are a ways off City and Chelsea and even Spurs in terms of a pool of rich talent. Hence we should take a punt (at a fair price) on Barkley.
The top teams are a step too far for him. He is a good player but woefully inconsistent. Yes, it is tempting because he is English AND can do a step over but that's really the extent of it. Is not a player with a great footballing brain in my opinion and a lot of his inconsistencies are down to poor decision making.
He's crap, let Spurs have him.
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