There's some seriously weird United 'fans' on this forum
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In this age of entrenched opinions and Internet rage, you two are a beacon of light, a ray of hope for all of us. God bless you both.
And they have all disappeared from the thread since he started scoring for fun.
Or people who don't know or remember what it's like to have a centre forward in the team, or how long it can take players to acclimatise and build relationships around the pitch. It's not a video game, young players will take time to grow into any team.
I think his performances have always shown elements of promise. He's grown into the role and is slowly becoming a focal point of the attack. Long may it continue, love watching this guy put in a shift, being aggressive and bullying defenders, now he's getting his goals the effort deserved all along. Such a refreshing sight after having numerous players just potter about up top for the last few years.
Bet it took you a while to think of that one. Never been the sharpest though.
I’d have let you off if you hadn’t of been a cowardly custard and instead chose to hold your hands up.
We can’t all be right all of the time you know. It’s okay to accept being wrong
Nah I'll always own it. Lets have a look:I’d have let you off if you hadn’t of been a cowardly custard and instead chose to hold your hands up.
We can’t all be right all of the time you know. It’s okay to accept being wrong
Pre summer I didn't want Kane said we should go for a younger striker, most disagreed. I was right.
Start of this thread defended him and lack of service. A fair point which is still true.
After a series of poor displays I questioned whether he'd ever be good enough for us to challenge again. Jury still out but he's definitely better than my posts suggest.
Poor performances were poor. Recent goals don't rewrite that history.
Recent performances have impressed. Maybe my previous criticism was over the top. Great if he keeps going.
The last 'I told you so' I got for being 'wrong' was Rashford last season. Hasn't exactly gone well since.
I personally don’t remember any performances that I would say were ‘poor’, particularly in context (maybe there were a couple). Also, questioning whether a nineteen year old would ever be good, despite displaying some good potential? Very strange take.
You said Martial was better than Hojlund. Just admit it was an absolutely awful opinion and move on.
Nope. At the time Hojlund was offering nothing better. Don't need to rewrite history because he has improved.
"We play better with Martial" three days before Hojlund begins a run of returning 7 goals and 2 assists across the next six league games, helping us to five wins and a draw. The one game he didn't play since that proclamation, we lost. History happens quick huh?
Martial has seven league goals across the last two seasons as a comparison.
Worst part about that opinion is you based it on a game Hojlund was forced to play despite being ill, because Martial was too ill himself to play. And Martial hasn't been available for a single minute since that point either.
I concede that I didn't rate this guy and talked shit at the start of the season because I was angry about how much we'd spent and fecked ourselves with FFP. Fair play to him though, he's getting better every game and now is pretty much indispensable. He's still raw though and needs to work on his first touch.
Calm down there. We get it, you don't like Martial.
Your rant also didn't change my mind about that point in time.
Yeah, agree about Galatasaray, I was so frustrated with the team, mainly Onana, for letting Hojlunds great work go to waste.
On the chance creation, certainly teammates aren’t finding him enough, but I would suggest also that his runs could be better or more selfish at times. He often tends to make runs that pull defenders away to create space for another attacker instead of getting into a position to score himself. You’d hope that this will improve with time.
Garnacho on the right will definitely help because he can put in a cross or a cutback unlike Antony. Rashford isn’t the best creatively on the left. We still need a winger, but I can’t decide whether a left winger or right winger.
I'm indifferent to Martial, he's barely a United player at this point. Hojlund has been a better striker than Martial since the moment he arrived at the club.
Don't be a clown. If you're going to try and tell a story tell it all, not just hand pick posts to suit your performance.
Perhaps you should look at your own shit posts as you are obviously bored and have the time.
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Have you considered that he's an all rounder and at neither extremes of the players in bold? Someone has already mentioned it before but there was a very good compilation on twitter, which showed a lot of his through balls and lay-offs to our wide attackers, which surprise surprise ended up with most of them wasted. Here's one from youtube:
Of course any highlight can make anyone look like Messi but for such a small sample size, I and many here would say it's a 'fair' reflection of the type of plays he has been contributing all this time. This is not the compilation of a forward, who just builds his game around goal scoring. That's not taking into context the fact, he gets so little service, we play ping pong football and there is no rhyme or reason to our general and attacking play. Your stats to say 'he doesn't add much' should actually be used to say 'look at what he does with his hold up play, being the focal point and his mature all around general play to lay it off to the next best progressive area/player with the minimal amount of ball usage we have as a team and himself individually'.
The idea that it's 'completely obvious' to you to categorise him as one of those two example forward types is exactly where you're 'wrong' and why many people have issue with it especially with what we've seen of his play. He has a well rounded skill set. Perhaps you should take it from himself of how he plays the game when it comes to getting into a goalscoring position:
Of course he still needs to score goals but to reduce his contribution as not impactful or enough considering how shite we play as a team, how selfish/wasteful our wide players are or how little we actually create for Hojlund is a bit myopic.
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I may have, but I couldn't find any.
Care to quote me on the Shaw post? I've probably called him the f word, lazy and said he should be sold numerous times. The difference with Shaw is that he's technically an excellent footballer, but we've had 8 years of injuries and up and down performances, I'd have binned him off 3 or 4 years ago. But, occasionally he goes on these mini runs where he looks a top player, then he either gets injured or just looks like he can't be arsed bothering.
I don't think I've written off a player as soon as lot of poeple where willing to write Hojlund off.
Good company indeed.
Well look harder, I quoted it for you in my reply.
Yeah, after I already responded.
Do you see him scoring 15 to 20 goals in 2 to 3 seasons yet?
Man is absolutely on fire but One thing that people should probably prepare for is for his goals to dry up.
Personally I've always backed him and defended him even when not scoring but if we look at the numbers his shot conversion rate is completely unsustainable.
I have every faith in him that if we increase the number of chances he gets per game he can continue a really good rate of goals.
However if we continue with our current chance creation then it's likely the goals will dry up but it really won't be his fault just like it wasn't really his fault earlier this season.
Personally I've always backed him and defended him even when not scoring but if we look at the numbers his shot conversion rate is completely unsustainable.
I have every faith in him that if we increase the number of chances he gets per game he can continue a really good rate of goals.
However if we continue with our current chance creation then it's likely the goals will dry up but it really won't be his fault just like it wasn't really his fault earlier this season.
Besides that he is a fantastic football players, you can already tell that he seems to be great guy of the pitch that the lads really like - also, he has the same attitude on the pitch as Martinez which cant be a coincidence (hope not) but rather something, or more the one thing, he always mentions when they ask him about bringing in new players. He often speaks about the right mentality, attitude and the way the players he wants sees the thing about them joining Manchester United - that they need to appreciate it the fact that they are playing for on of the biggest clubs in the world and what it means. And Rasmus has it all, its not hard to see how much he loves this club and that he wants to be here. We have a core of players now - Onana (yes he has been a long life United fan and it you understand how big we are in most African countries then you understand), Martinez, Dalot, McTominey, Bruno, Antony & Höjlund. Players that all are very passionate and are not afraid of showing it.
That proves how determined he is to improve every single aspect of his game which is refreshing
He will continue to grow as a fantastic player. With his super tough mentality that has been proven. his very good speed, posture and positioning, what he need now is a leadership to ask and demand his team mates to pass to him. He's still young and considered junior, young and unexperienced, so maybe he still thinks thats it's impolite to demand more pass from his own team mates.
Well that's exactly the point, he does in fact contribute a lots of other things.
Yeah sorry I wanted to edit my post within two minutes of posting it. Silly me. I should have known you'd be on it like a hawk. Averaging just under 10 posts a day, you must live on here.
I don't care for people calling me out for comments I made, I'll happily back them up or accept I was wrong, but don't try and make me look like a prat by only cherry picking ones that suit your agenda.
Hojlunds starting to prove me wrong....great. Why would I have a problem with that? Why would I not be happy to hold my hands up, as I did? I support Utd, if he is doing better then its better for the club. He deserved criticism for a poor first half of the season and he deserves praise now.
Grow up.
I think you're spot on and with the players young players you've highlighted in your post along with some of the young players that are yet to emerge from the youth teams, I absolutely feel the current regime will at the very least leave INEOS, Berrarda and the prospective new DoF a platform to build from that has the potential to propel the club to bigger and better things. I think from the squad left behind by Woodward to the one that will be left behind currently has big potential in the mid to long-term. And there's quite a few young players in the youth team that could also emerge as genuine options in the near future.The prospect of Højlund developing along side Garnacho is incredibly tantalizing, arguably the highlight of the season (aside from Mainoo's emergence as a mainstay, of course).
As lads who are expected to mature and develop over the coming years (individually, and as a pairing), they are more likely to sacrifice and make concessions for each other — compared with finished articles who have already developed sizable egos and are accustomed to things going their way.
Shearer seems to have taken a real liking to him, hasn't he? Which isn't surprising as their games are comparable in certain respects (discounting Shearer's aerial supremacy, most prominently — at least for the time being).
Considering his profile, Rasmus should be gunning for Rooney's goal-scoring tally with Manchester United. Plenty of time on his side and it's never too early to set ambitious targets for youself (unrealistic and premature as they may seem right now). Should also strive to be one of the flag-bearers of the post-Benzema/Suárez/Lewandowski era of center forwards — why not, everyone starts somewhere?
Players like him, Mainoo and Garnacho (as well as some of the lads coming through the ranks) give us so much hope and infectious energy for the future, following a spell where things looked rather bleak and listless (both on and off the pitch). It is now the club's responsibility to ensure that they are given the platform to improve and succeed, and are surrounded by others like them (in terms of profile) — that will be key to our proposed resurgance.
I find it remarkable that with all the money that we've spent over the years that we neglected the CF position for so long. But credit where credit is due and post Woodward/managers we seem to have nailed the CF position on the first attempt with the scouts replacing Bout and Lawlor.
The highlights below further display Hojlund's potential in open play where his ability to evade the press, utilise his acceleration and deliver the final pass from a deeper position is something that is already very good for someone so young but those attributes I feel will become more pronounced as he develops further.
I’m not interested in shaming people for comments they made, but I am curious as to why you and other posters who criticized him still think, that it was warranted? I’ve followed his every move and he rarely set a foot wrong in his first many games - he actually did more or less excactly the same things as he does now aside from scoring (though he was unlucky not to get two goals quickly and some assists because Garnacho and Rashford couldn’t score).
As I’ve pointed out before the only big chance he has missed before the last six - seven games was the free header in the FA Cup. And there are plenty of posts here explaining the contributions he made even though he didn’t score.
I’m really curious: Why do you still think he was “poor”?
I love everything about him. Rapid progression, desire, ability. Hope he stays in the club for a long, long time.
So much to like about him, hope he can stay injury free.
100% this. His personality and ambition is infectious.
We could potentially have our striker for the next decade in him if he maintains this type of progression. He has everything in his locker to be a huge success.
He doesn't seem like the type to get complacent, so hopefully his maturity that he's showing at 21 doesn't dwindle.
Building around the likes of Martinez, Mainoo, Garnacho and Hojlund is what will lead us to hopefully getting back to league challenges.
Deserved criticism?
No, what he actually deserved was your patience.
Perhaps it's you that needs to grow up?
Did you miss the bit where I happily put my hands up? Or are you like the others where you only like to cherry pick.
There isn't literally posts above explaining how he has been listening to coaches and advice i.e he has improved and it shows.
I do feel some of his runs used to be poor or he used to miss clear opportunities where he should have scored. That was my opinion at the time and I'm entitled to it, the same as I'm entitled to update my opinion - which I have.
Some of his play deserved criticism, yes. Why? Is he beyond it?
Any whys that pal?
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Do we not give young players time anymore?
Surely moving to the biggest league in the world and the biggest team in that league demands a little bit of patience on our part, no? I feel it's the least we can do as supporters, something that seems to have been lost in these leaner years.
It's a good job the lad has mental strength or he could have bean added to the long list of players we have broken.
He has always showed brilliant all round play, even for his age. Now we see he can score too. He is a massive talent
Its refreshing to see how him, garnacho and mainoo are embracing the challenge and not hiding behind 'players coming into a dysfunctional team' like a lot of our signings this pat decade. Ten Hag praised his mindset, and i think it shows in his performances.
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