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2023-24 Performances


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5.5 Season Average Rating
Appearances
43
Goals
16
Assists
2
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Martial was a precocious talent for his age, you could see right away there was something special. Same with Greenwood. Hojlund has really good physical attributes, but still looks very much like a flat track bully at the moment, or trying to be one. His fundamentals are lacking, like a consistent first touch, or finding space to make himself a threat like Nunez or even Jackson.

We all want Hojlund to succeed, but he's just so rough right now, and also looks like a bit of a patchy player. Give me a striker who contributes in every game than one who goes on an insane run for a few weeks before another long dry spell.
 
Martial was a precocious talent for his age, you could see right away there was something special. Same with Greenwood. Hojlund has really good physical attributes, but still looks very much like a flat track bully at the moment, or trying to be one. His fundamentals are lacking, like a consistent first touch, or finding space to make himself a threat like Nunez or even Jackson.

We all want Hojlund to succeed, but he's just so rough right now, and also looks like a bit of a patchy player. Give me a striker who contributes in every game than one who goes on an insane run for a few weeks before another long dry spell.

Hojland looks like a flat track bully?

Goals against Bayern, Galatasaray, Aston Villa (2), Spuds, West Ham

Guy was on a tear and got injured for like 3 weeks, and is just barely getting back into form, and now he’s patchy.
 
Hojland looks like a flat track bully?

Goals against Bayern, Galatasaray, Aston Villa (2), Spuds, West Ham

Guy was on a tear and got injured for like 3 weeks, and is just barely getting back into form, and now he’s patchy.
His playing style resembles one. He tries to physically dominate defenders and spends all game tussling with them, tiring himself out, and looks quiet when he cant beat them for pace, which is much harder in the PL nowadays. Fortunately he can still finish from time to time, and that keeps him from being compared to Carroll for now. He plays with his back to goal and isn't very agile, so you don't really expect him to turn and go around the defenders using technique or create something himself when you give him the ball.
 
His playing style resembles one. He tries to physically dominate defenders and spends all game tussling with them, tiring himself out, and looks quiet when he cant beat them for pace, which is much harder in the PL nowadays. Fortunately he can still finish from time to time, and that keeps him from being compared to Carroll for now. He plays with his back to goal and isn't very agile, so you don't really expect him to turn and go around the defenders using technique or create something himself when you give him the ball.

Ideally a decent chunk of his minutes would be coming off the right flank where can get a head start running at defenders or latch onto the diagonals our better passers like to play. For what it's worth I'm pretty sure he has the highest top speed at the club going off his numbers at Atalanta. I believe playing wide was something a few around the club (including Hojlund himself) mentioned when he was signed. Coming on against tired defences also looks like it would suit him more at this stage of his career.

Unfortunately, there's nobody else to even attempt to occupy defenders in the team, so his role is a pretty grim one. He tries to hold it up, but defenders know he can't roll them, so he usually ends up on his arse without ever really having the prospect of a shot.
 
It's strange that this discussion keeps going on. There are such glaringly obvious problems with our attack as a whole (no goals, terrible chance creation, Rashford / Antony generally crap or in crap form) and he has shown enough promise that you'd think most people will focus on improving our general play as a team instead of focusing in on the striker.

Throw this guy in the Newcastle line up instead of Isak or in the Liverpool line up instead of Nunez and he'll be just fine. Sure he might not hit Haaland levels of output but no one would really be complaining that he wasn't delivering.
 
Højlund is variable, as you should expect for a 21 year old talent at a club this level. He is a perfect understudy striker for a CL club. Unfortunately for him, expectations for some are skewed by the fact that we banked on short term solutions like Zlatan, Ighalo, Cavani and Ronaldo to prepare for a bonanza of Martial, Greenwood and Rashford to blossom forth, and have come up with even Wout Weghorst being missed as he would at least have given Højlund some time off in his first PL season.
 
Man Utd 4:2 Sheffield Utd
14th goal in comps tonite, would have absolutely taken that at the start of the year. Imagine if rashford/ Antony/garnacho considered passing occasionally
 
He needed that goal. Typical striker isn't happy when they are not scoring. Place your bets he gets another at the weekend.
 
Glad he scored. Might be a streaky sort of striker for now so hopefully he kicks on.
 
Delighted to see him get one tonight, he needed it. 14 goals for me is a decent debut season.
 
I like him.

He got a pass and scored. 14 in all comps is a good return for a 21 year old in a new team, hopefully he can add a few more.
 
14 goals already and may well score another 2-3. That's a very respectable return for a young striker who barely gets any service. I look forward to what he can do next season
 
We need a senior striker next season if we want champions league football, needs to learn his trade from a more senior CF.
Difficult to say if it is his movement or the lack of creativity but certain players continue to get chances, so I dont know
 
We need a senior striker next season if we want champions league football, needs to learn his trade from a more senior CF.
Difficult to say if it is his movement or the lack of creativity but certain players continue to get chances, so I dont know

Not sure he needs to learn his trade but he definitely needs good competition from a proper striker in his prime.
 
Gotta be honest he was poor again tonight.
Yes he got a goal but he has been consistently ineffective...

Time is on his side and I ain't writing him off and sincerely hope he does well here but if we want to challenge for the league we need another top striker
 
Good goal. Thought it was funny when he stumbled when making the initial run, but it worked out beautifully when Bruno found him in the end.
 
Not sure he needs to learn his trade but he definitely needs good competition from a proper striker in his prime.
His movement can be better, he gets into unneccary tussle with CBs that are stronger, needs to be smarter, needs to come short and spin, needs to get invloved more with play
 
We need a senior striker next season if we want champions league football, needs to learn his trade from a more senior CF.
Difficult to say if it is his movement or the lack of creativity but certain players continue to get chances, so I dont know

Bit of both, he's raw still but in possibly the worst environment possible for a CF to thrive. Harry Kane would struggle to have his normal impact in this setup
 
I mean, if we’re doing condescending then you’ve absolutely got the right guy here.

I’ll try to provide an even shorter summary for you. This is a Rasmus Hojlund performance thread. Those performances have been largely underwhelming, hence the performance reports being largely underwhelming (see Kobbie Mainoo thread for comparison of when a player is performing well).

Hojlund should be judged off of the performances he produces, otherwise close this and reopen it once he has a ‘well drilled, mentally astute team’, maybe in two years, maybe never. He has had good games this season (see reactions in Rasmus Hojlund thread following good games), and had poor games (see reaction following poor games), and some in between where he has shown a few good things. As you said, those are available to read in this thread.

For someone telling me to go and read what has been written, heaven knows where your ‘agents and families’ retort has come from. Also, for someone who wants to talk about cherry-picking and ‘only looking at goals and assists’, that is also nonsense, as I’ve literally said across many threads on RH that he is not producing ANYTHING. I also said that IF, all that were missing was goals and assists, I’d be far less concerned. Do you watch either of his performances against Liverpool in the last month, or Chelsea, or Bournemouth and think to yourself ‘he did everything but score?’. He didn’t do anything at all, including score. He didn’t even manage to miss or nearly score. He didn’t do anything, barely touched the ball. I’ve seen many vitriolic posts directed at Martial for being ‘useless’ after games where he simply barely touched the ball.

I don’t need educating on what it means to be a young and developing player. Garnacho isn’t where we want him to be. Last season, he showed plenty of moments, without being the 20 goal forward we hope him to be at 23. Everyone said he was playing well. I watched Ronaldo here at 18. He was a million miles from the developed Ronaldo he became. He got 5 goals. his decisions were poor. BUT, he was widely praised for his performances. I could go on and on. Martial came to a similarly dysfunctional team at 19 and was several levels above Hojlund. I’m calling Hojlund’s performances this season for what they are, not what I hope them to be, not adjusted for mitigation, simply what they are. He was great in the CL. But he’s had a poor league campaign, despite a purple patch. During that purple patch, posts were positive, now he’s gone back to being poor, guess what has happened? None of this means that he can’t become a top striker in two years. That’s up to him. If he becomes one, then I imagine everyone will say ‘he’s a top class striker’. Right now, he isn’t m, and I would say that he’s not playing at a level of a player even good enough to be starting for us. My hope if that a senior striker comes in this summer and he can then do his apprenticeship and develop into a top striker. But right now, he’s a long way from one.
People have provided both quantitative and qualitative arguments for why a lot of the criticism against Hojlund is misguided. You have brought zero substantial arguments to the table to back up your case against him. Zero. You don’t even bother to address the points.

There’s nothing wrong with criticizing a single performance (even if it’s often more complex than just one player doing badly), but the extrapolations are so tiring - claiming he doesn’t contribute at all, that he’s championship /league one material etc. All that totally ignoring the context and circumstances.

But hey, I can explain it to you, I can’t understand it for you.
 
Gotta be honest he was poor again tonight.
Yes he got a goal but he has been consistently ineffective...

Time is on his side and I ain't writing him off and sincerely hope he does well here but if we want to challenge for the league we need another top striker
Sadly we are from that. I think we need better for champions leage football itself except if our wide forwards take the load and score more than him
 
13 goals in 37 his debut season as a 20-21 year old really isn't bad going. Especially considering we're complete and utter shite. Still a long way to go though, and a lot to add to his game.
 
Bit of both, he's raw still but in possibly the worst environment possible for a CF to thrive. Harry Kane would struggle to have his normal impact in this setup
I'm starting to think that he's been instructed to roam around dragging defenders out of position and bring teammates into play rather than lead the line in this system. A Firmino type would be better served in this role. Or a new manager next year.
 
Sadly we are from that. I think we need better for champions leage football itself except if our wide forwards take the load and score more than him
When was the last time you made a positive post?!
 
When was the last time you made a positive post?!
Whenever something positive happened.

Look when McT scored that goal on sunday, I was happy and quickly became sad hoping Hojlund was the one at the end of it.
 
Poor?

Completed 100% of his passes & scored so “poor” seems beyond harsh.
You could argue he needs to get more involved but he appears to be playing to his managers instructions.
Hopefully we get rid of the manager and hoping the lad improve because he definately needs it if he wants to be successful in this league
 
Whenever something positive happened.

Look when McT scored that goal on sunday, I was happy and quickly became sad hoping Hojlund was the one at the end of it.
You post page after page of negativity. Try to look on the brighter side every now and then!
 
His stats are still in sync with how anyone with sense would have predicted them to be, before the season, yet he's being judged at Cavani/Ibrahimovic levels. It's not a 21 year olds fault that the club stupidity decided that another striker wasn't absolutely necessary.
 
Sadly we are from that. I think we need better for champions leage football itself except if our wide forwards take the load and score more than him

Garnacho, Rashford and Antony get the ball about 20-30 times in a game and take ridiculous shots, put in poor crosses and dribble into defenders. How about they try to create a bit more? Garnacho put in one cross today and it found Maguire for the first goal.

Nobody in this team or the manager is 'good enough', Hojlund included but at least he's not wasting every chance he gets with the ball. Everybody needs to improve but people who criticise him without acknowledging how much worse others are doing in relation with their usage of the ball is shocking.

I said this in the match day thread but Hojlund might make 5 'bad' runs and 5 'good' runs but he will only get the ball about once. He gets to fail or succeed with that one chance compared to everyone else who gets it about 20-30 times more AFTER he is the one who lays it off or is occupying the central space so they have all the time in the world in the wings.

Today he had one through ball in the 1st half and should have got off a better shot away imo i.e did 'poor' and then in the 2nd half got a perfect through ball from Bruno to score. Two clear chances and this is already anomalous compared to the previous couple of dozen games.

Hojlund deserves plenty of criticism but people writing him off is just bad basic level judgement.
 
His stats are still in sync with how anyone with sense would have predicted them to be, before the season, yet he's being judged at Cavani/Ibrahimovic levels. It's not a 21 year olds fault that the club stupidity decided that another striker wasn't absolutely necessary.

Agreed.
 
In a game like this where there isn't much space for through balls he can run onto, and we don't really manage to put in decent crosses, it does become quite challenging for him to get involved. During the first half we barely saw him, because I suspect he is being told to stay central and occupy the centre-backs.

Good he got his goal to build a bit of confidence.
 
People have provided both quantitative and qualitative arguments for why a lot of the criticism against Hojlund is misguided. You have brought zero substantial arguments to the table to back up your case against him. Zero. You don’t even bother to address the points.

There’s nothing wrong with criticizing a single performance (even if it’s often more complex than just one player doing badly), but the extrapolations are so tiring - claiming he doesn’t contribute at all, that he’s championship /league one material etc. All that totally ignoring the context and circumstances.

But hey, I can explain it to you, I can’t understand it for you.
:lol:. Cracking line.
 
I'm starting to think that he's been instructed to roam around dragging defenders out of position and bring teammates into play rather than lead the line in this system. A Firmino type would be better served in this role. Or a new manager next year.

Nothing would surprise me. I did think targeting a box striker prospect as the CF to lead the line was strange considering all of our wingers sans Sancho were shoot first types. To me a Martial type that dropped off and could play a more comprehensive game while Rashford/Garnacho/Antony/Bruno ran in behind made more sense.
 
He's more or less on par as I expected in terms of numbers and performance. Peaks and troughs.

What I didn't expect is quite how shite the team has been. So the par performance requires some nuance in analysis by looking at it in that context.

Yes his intelligence and runs can improve but there's plenty of games where nobody finds him at all and at a club of our stature you should have established performers that are doing their bit to compensate for a youngster. That's the point really, he has to improve - yes, not everything is explained by his team mates but this is Man United, youngsters are always expected to be there and they should always have support around them. For me this is the main reason he's 5 or 6 goals off what would have been an upper end of par. Countless unproductive games from our wide attacking trio behind him.
 
I think he did did well in ET against Coventry and carried that on somewhat today. His hold up play and lay offs were secure, wasn't being overpowered in fighting with CB's and managed to get a few shots off. His movement is an ongoing concern but if he can keep the technical side of his game at a high level he can contribute in ways other than scoring, which for me should be greater focus for his development than scoring goals.
 
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