Protests following the killing of George Floyd
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Look up the saying 'enough is enough'.
What?
@villain wasn't it also the wrong residence they rushed in?
Theres a simple solution to this. Invite the press to a long series of public perp walks for maces kid cop, attacks old dude with cane cop, firing rubber bullets at journalists cops and so on. Throw them in with the general population in prison while you worry about finding something to charge them with. Continue making very public arrests of criminals and completely ignore any potential threats they may come across in prison.
Charge kneels on neck cops 3 colleagues for murder. Actually getting the charges to stick can be a problem for another day but taking action needs to happen now imo.
Charge kneels on neck cops 3 colleagues for murder. Actually getting the charges to stick can be a problem for another day but taking action needs to happen now imo.
Yeah agree with @MackRobinson here. This isn’t really true, he routinely spoke out and was often criticised by Americans and Zimmerman even accused him of steering up racial tensions. Obama being president has ended just being a token gesture but again what can one man do in a country where a good portion of the population just refuse to change.
Love that.
Looting? Learned from the best. Violence? Learned from the best!
Yes & no, it was the wrong house but her house had been used as an address for some deliveries in the past (probably by her bf) - that was enough evidence for the judge decided that was enough to grant a 'no-knock' warrant.
Just one example of a truly corrupt system.
But you did bunch them all into one, repeatedly. You also proceeded to bunch all of us on here into one too. I'd be willing to give you a pass and buy that you didn't fully articulate yourself, if it wasn't for the fact you quoted and agreed with a widely known troll. Perhaps that was an innocent mistake too.
But it's done with now, no hard feelings. You have your opinion. You should just maybe not be so quick to group people and take extreme ends of a discussion in the future.
Nah it was a fair thing to call out, I’ve probably grouped people with various reasoning behind their stances under the same umbrella, when certainly there’s probably a wide variation of reasoning going on.
I think your last sentence is very accurate in a lot of cases. Where a lot of people have read or seen little of what’s going on and just reverted everything to an easily digestible takeaway lacking any nuance.
Seems like “We’ve heard there’s drug dealing in the area” is their go-to line whenever I watch these vids
This would make sense if Trump did not fire the pandemic response team who could have seen earlier that the country's emergency stockpile was expired and could have had it replaced. But I guess I'm just using facts, what do I know?
There are worse cases. Police were called by a neighbour to check on a black woman and ended up killing her. The neighbour was rightfully devastated as they called them to "check on her"
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019...-woman-home-welfare-call-191013150506596.html
Please provide examples of peaceful protests that provided meaningful change throughout history. Since that's the way.
I might make mistake being soblunt on that sentence, because in my head, antifa is an ideology and i heavely link them with left ideologies (the opposite than US ideology).
The USA enemies in WWII were to happen to be fascist but ideology had nothing to do with the US attacking them. As always control and money, also their historical connections with UK and the threat that germany could geopardize their raising world supremacy (that the WWII ended tilting it). They could enter to Spain and kick out the fascist dictator and they did not because Texaco and other US companies had supported him during the spanish civil war and also because the spanish democratic governement was left winged and closer to comunism and they prefer a fascist guy there. If they would be antifa, they would kick him out, and they even helped him at the later stages in the Marshall plan.
Antifa movements fight fascist movement because the fascist ideology, USA fought countries that happened to be fascist, that didn't make US antifa. Actually, and this is a personal opinion, I always put US closer to fascism than most of any other country in the developed world. Specially after the 70s. But again, sctrictly myy personal opinion
But definitely, US was not antifa in WWII ideologically speaking
That's the point that all these people bemoaning the violence simply don't get. They really just need to shut the feck up.
Again - apologies if I lumped people together. Tried to find the post where I quoted someone who is seen as a troll - for what it’s worth, I’m not sure who it is, so wasn’t intentional to further stir up emotion.
True that.
They installed a fecking dictatorship in my country that lasted 18 years. Yeah... US is definitely not against fascism.
They are against losing control of the world ($$$).
You’re being a bit too literal bud. The guy was just taking the piss out of Trump basically saying he’s pro-fascist
It’s brilliant (and tragic) that the George Floyd protests has resonated with other countries, systemic racism is engrained into society.
See I feel bad now @Heardy , but hopefully you'd understand why - for the reasons I stated in my post - for many people your relatively significant volume of posts following the same pattern could be perceived that you're being deliberately obtuse.
You're late to the party again on this one my friend. Already been discussed.
Fair challenge, I guess peaceful protests haven’t helped. This problem is obviously bigger than that, I just struggle to condone violent responses when innocent people are going to get caught in the crossfire.
If nothing else, I hope this broader media attention finally puts pressure on institutions/governments to push for the change that is needed.
Again apologies to those that I’ve angered - there isn’t / wasn’t an agenda on my part.
Ireland apparently won their independence through peaceful protest, in what must be one of the worst takes possible on the protests on Twitter.
There’s honestly countless cases. This is why it’s bigger than a George Floyd - I've talked about the collective generational trauma of what it's like being black on here in the past - probably in the Racism or Cops doing badly thread. I can't even watch the video of what the cop did to him because at this point, seeing black people being killed by the police is desensitising me & traumatising me at the same time.
That's why this collective outrage isn't strange, and those who question why violence is necessary are the ones who haven't been paying attention - or they just don't care.
I understand - I guess I was trying to reply to so many people along a similar vein I unnecessarily made the same point 30 times whichever made me look like a dick.
That racism impacted the colonies too. Here up until independence the black police force was used as a tool to persecute their fellow blacks. To the whim of the white upper class and the colonial government. Elements of that still exist today in the police force but are more rooted in classism now and persecuting exclusively the poor blacks now, not just on a whole.
The racism now is more shown through colourism and the fact the white upper class now has black people in it but the only poor whites in places like the Caribbeans are immigrants or those who got themselves there.
I guess we can’t make jokes at the expense of Trump anymore
This was in reply to a post mentioning the lawful killing of someone in the UK. I have a question - do you believe that lethal force is ever warranted?
The example given earlier (which I believe this conversation was in relation to) was of two armed robbers who were shot. The first one was shot whilst pointing a gun at the head of a security guard - he was taken out by a sniper. I would suggest asking the security guard with the gun pointed at his head, whether the police were justified in killing that man.
Hmmm. That would be news to Michael Collins.
The lawyer for the Floyd family says audio from the bodycam of the officers has shown one of them told Chauvin "he doesn't have a pulse, maybe we should move him onto his side?" and Chauvin responds with "no, we're going to keep him in this position" and then keeps his knee on his neck for several more minutes.
I am still struggling with the idea that there isn't clear, obvious and provable evidence of intent to kill here? His colleague explicitly tells him that the man he is kneeling doesn't have a pulse, but instead of taking the opportunity to check and perhaps resuscitate him, he deliberately holds his position to ensure that he finishes the job.
That is cold blooded, intentional murder. I'm sorry but I can't see how it could possibly be anything else and a 25 year sentence is ludicrously insufficient.
I am still struggling with the idea that there isn't clear, obvious and provable evidence of intent to kill here? His colleague explicitly tells him that the man he is kneeling doesn't have a pulse, but instead of taking the opportunity to check and perhaps resuscitate him, he deliberately holds his position to ensure that he finishes the job.
That is cold blooded, intentional murder. I'm sorry but I can't see how it could possibly be anything else and a 25 year sentence is ludicrously insufficient.
I am the one you quoted, and his "wide known troll" is as wide as only to him because he has some personal agenda with me, so you did nothing wrong in that quote. Relax.
Americans aren’t anti-fascist because they didn’t invade Spain at the behest of Texaco? What the absolute hell?
Maybe a group of celebrities could release a cover song to make us all feel better and return to our homes