[Rasmus_9]

Unfortunately with our lack of fire power we will be seeing a lot more losses this season. Can we fluke a cup though?

 

[Maureen-yo]

We can't score. Neither of our strikers was ready to be the main man when we signed them, but we signed them and played them as the main man.

Unsurprisingly, instead of learning on the job, we have destoryed their confidence and for hojlund at least, likely destoryed his career before it got started.

The only team I think will have worse form than us from now to the end of the season is Ipswich. Everyone else below us is finding ways to win games.

Southampton, West Ham, Leicester all lost yesterday and Ipswich drew. What teams are finding ways to win?

 

[stevoc]

Same shit, different day! Our players inability to play football, yes that very thing they are known as professionals for, is the biggest hindrance to the team. Fans got so invested in formations and tactics but that's a pipe dream for when we are going for something. I simply want our team to play football, but it's not going to happen with these lot, they are so far behind other PL teams.

Similar was said 3 years ago under Ralf with virtually a different squad.

Sack the manager and get someone else in? You really think anyone else can get these lot to play football? Never happening.

So sack the players and get 22 new ones in?

 

[RuudTom83]

Dogshit...but the table doesn't lie so it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

Change the coaches, change the manager, change the players...longball panic count-attacking football remains.

Today had nothing to do with manager or backroom staff when there was only 11 senior players fit, they start. simple.

 

[Super Hans]

Relegation is a real possibility now. We cant win against sides who have been struggling. Not sure from where we will get 12 points to go above 40

40? So one of the teams that have managed 17 points in the first 25 games is going to get 23 points in the last 13? Loool

 

[TheRedHearted]

Cas lucky not to get sent off for that dive.

He gets full on shoved, definitely not a dive. You could say he went down easy but I don’t think tha’t s a dive.

I think he’s making a sub now.

Thanks for making me laugh after that . What a disgrace to take so long to make a change. Also a disgrace to Martin for letting that be his debut

Dorgu did what he could. Difficult to expect more from a young player that has been in the club for 2 weeks.

Zirkzee MoM second half. Only player trying to get us forward.

Zirkzee was bright but how many times did i see him second half get the ball plucked of him in a deeper position.

 

[The Purley King]

How? What could he actually change with the players he had available?

If he'd thrown kids on and they got spanked you'd be moaning he shouldn't have put the kids in that position.

We weren't getting battered and were still creating chances to the end with the players on the pitch.

I swear some of you think we had yamal, Messi, Rodri, and Haaland on our bench today.

Sub Casemiro for Kone after 65 mins.
A fecking traffic cone would have been better than Casemiro today.
It’s cowardly because the guy is on the bench for a reason and you just have to bring him on. Yes it probably wouldn’t have changed much but nobody is going to bawl kone out if he messes a few things up. feck me casemiro fecked everything up.

 

[Jimmah]

Trying to think of some positives from the game. No injuries at least, Dorgu got 90 mins and probably regrets signing after not getting any service from Garnacho. The academy players will get another week to train with the first team which might make them closer to contention playing. Made a few chances. Casemiro looks like he’s only got 30 mins in him let alone 90, hopefully we can offload at the end of the season. Uhh. Can’t think of anymore.

 

[tjarligdrengen]

I’m curious of hearing why the f**k Amorim didn’t make any subs before the last minute? He cannot mean that any player did good.

I’m actually furious today and that’s because of Amorim! If he had tried some of the youngsters - a defeat could have been “ok”. But he didn’t use shit! feck that!

 

[Irishman]

Worst Spurs team in decades and they have beaten us 3 times in a row this season. We deserve relegation.

 

[Ollie Derbyshire]

We're poor in attack with him.

We’d be poorer without him…somehow.

 

[ForeverRed1]

You do realise those were the only two senior squad midfielders we had available?

Yes I realise.

out senior squad is poor. Time to start playing the kids. Obi couldn’t have made a difference in 2 minutes but he might of in 20.

 

[Hester_manc]

We need more time to train.

 

[Church o Choccy]

It’s fine to say this but why can’t he use his brain and try and just keep to his position and be a headless chicken.

That's pretty much exactly what he did in the first half, though, and we just couldn't keep the ball or find the man in space. So Bruno, for better or worse, goes headless chicken mode and gets more involved with moving us up the pitch and creating things but ends up looking like a messy drunk lurching to the bar for last orders when he's tracking back on the cover.

I agree Bruno's better when he doesn't completely abandon common sense and try to chase everything, tackle everyone and play Hollywood balls when he's clearly knackered but I also think that's maybe just who Bruno is? And I kind of love him for it when he's pulling it off.

 

[Roboc7]

If your tactics strip the players of passing opportunities, attacking outlets, gives them no midfield options, no real attacking options and no defensivel solidity then I expect average players whose confidence are low to perform even worse. The manager has someone lowered the bar even further than it already was. The club is in 15th more than halfway through the season. The manager is in charge and has made things worse.

There were loads of times where players ignored overlaps, played shit passes or picked the wrong options. The players are shit and are clearly nowhere near good enough, idea they did well makes no sense, errors, can’t hit a barn door. Tactics weren’t good either of course.

 

[Maureen-yo]

40? So one of the teams that have managed 17 points in the first 25 games is going to get 23 points in the last 13? Loool

Always the same knee jerk reactions after a loss. Logic goes out of the window.

 

[mitchmouse]

We were the better side second half but we have to start taking chances even if they aren't golden ones. Garno should have had at least one, zirkzee as well. One positive is I think zirkzee linked well with Hojilund, who I, unlike most here, thought had a pretty good game - it must be so dispiriting for him never to be given a decent chance.

Second half defended well - if we'd done same in the first, we wouldn't have lost.

Negatives: Bruno was utter shite yet again and Amorim's impersonation of Ole and ETH of not making subs was beyond fecking stupid

 

[Paul778]

What a terrible own goal of a game.

I had expected us to lose even before the Amad shocker. Then finding out we had like an additional 6(?) players not available to make the squad my expectations were in the dumps. Then looking at the players named on the bench, I was actually excited that 1-2 of them would get a chance to show what they can do - fundamental to Man Utd over the years.

The fact that at 80 mins with a clearly knackered front line and midfield he wasn't prepared to do anything. Giving Obi 3 mins was pointless - did he even touch the ball?

It felt at the end that we were holding on to the loss. I needed to keep reminding myself this when we were passing around at the back and I thought we could get caught passing around in this manner - then remembered we were losing already

 

[stu_1992]

That was a bad and frustrating one. Our passing was shocking all game but especially towards the end. Of course we knew we'd be disadvantaged with the big injuries we had but the team out there should have done a lot better. We had chances to do it, but it felt everything that could go wrong, did go on. Would have liked to have seen more youngsters just to change it up, but I guess I understand why he didn't decide to do that.

 

[Red & White]

So gutting to lose. Again.

 

[Crimson King]

Concede a shit early goal and then missed a bunch of chances, including 1 golden opportunity that Garnacho should have taken.

It's just compounding misery with frustration. There's plenty of games we've deserved to lose, but this wasn't one of them. We were worth at least a point

 

[moodyred]

Sub Casemiro for Kone after 65 mins.
A fecking traffic cone would have been better than Casemiro today.
It’s cowardly because the guy is on the bench for a reason and you just have to bring him on. Yes it probably wouldn’t have changed much but nobody is going to bawl kone out if he messes a few things up. feck me casemiro fecked everything up.

My feelings exactly. Amorim has no guts to bring the youngsters on. I am so freaking frustrated by him.

 

[Fox outside the box]

We're 12 points clear of a team who have accumulated 17 points all season. We are not in a relegation battle.

Fans are reactive, emotional and fickle. There's a real desperation to drive a narrative about being in relegation fights. Some people find it easier to wallow and catastrophise as a coping mechanism.

Was only a few years ago Arsenal fans were ranting about being in a relegation fight and I've seen it from Spurs, United and even some Liverpool fans when they went really south a couple of years ago under Klopp.

I reckon it's the same demographic who keep bleating on about team x or y being in a title challenge in October.

 

[RedIan]

Away at a resurgent Everton next came. Oh dear

 

[mitchmouse]

You do realise those were the only two senior squad midfielders we had available?

trust the kids - it's the United way

 

[Salus Populi Suprema Lex]

The end of the season can’t come soon enough. It’s so depressing and draining. Just get it over with and look at everything afresh. It’s sad to see the club reduced to this.

 

[Banana Republic]

Brighton, Bournemouth, Brentford, Fulham would have torn this Spurs side apart.
We could have played for another hour and we wouldn’t have scored.
We just can’t finish our chances.

There are much harder fixtures are coming up, so we are firmly stuck down in the league basement.
No chance of making mid table at this rate.
Thank feck for the 10 point cushion between us and the bottom 4.


.

 

[cirilus]

Let me guess, a bunch of sitters missed, a really soft goal, then a bunch more sitters missed.

This is what happens when you've got a nothing goalkeeper and forwards who couldn't score if their lives depended on it.

100% this. Dont know what else to say. We have reasonable players.

But defense cannot build with confidence and less passing lines. Also has to defender lower. Due to keeper.

No point in building for a (non existant) goalscorer.

They simply are awful, not even median quality.

 

[Ollie Derbyshire]

That's pretty much exactly what he did in the first half, though, and we just couldn't keep the ball or find the man in space. So Bruno, for better or worse, goes headless chicken mode and gets more involved with moving us up the pitch and creating things but ends up looking like a messy drunk lurching to the bar for last orders when he's tracking back on the cover.

I agree Bruno's better when he doesn't completely abandon common sense and try to chase everything, tackle everyone and play Hollywood balls when he's clearly knackered but I also think that's maybe just who Bruno is? And I kind of love him for it when he's pulling it off.

It is who he is and it’s not doing us any favours. I said a year ago it was time to move on from him, I still think this but we don’t have the money to so no point crying about it.

 

[Superunknown]

12 losses this season. We've become accustomed to losing and throwing in the towel too easily. No winning mentality. 12 losses after 25 games is disgusting.

 

[Giggsy13]

Hojlund and Zirkzee are so fecking infuriating to watch. Hojlund just goes thru motions, zero desire. Zirkzee must have been born with half a brain, haven’t seen a dumber United player in my lifetime.

 

[BeretWearingEnt]

That was rough. Huge fan of Bruno and generally ok with his risk taking, but I thought this was one of his poorest performances for us.

Dorgu looked solid, and I was impressed with him. Zirkzee was good. Outside of that a whole load of nothing.

It was disappointing not to see some more of the youth come in, but it’s probably better for them that they’re not exposed at this level when we’re this poor. Emergency use only I guess.

Final word on Garnacho, he’s just so poor in crucial decision making. We have a bottom half set of forwards and that’s where we are. I hope he can be refined, but at this stage he’s a very very poor man’s Nani.

 

[moodyred]

Fans are reactive, emotional and fickle. There's a real desperation to drive a narrative about being in relegation fights. Some people find it easier to wallow and catastrophise as a coping mechanism.

Was only a few years ago Arsenal fans were ranting about being in a relegation fight and I've seen it from Spurs, United and even some Liverpool fans when they went really south a couple of years ago under Klopp.

I reckon it's the same demographic who keep bleating on about team x or y being in a title challenge in October.

Arsenal was never this low down the table at this stage of the season. Poor comparison.

 

[mitchmouse]

I have a feeling we will play Spurs a fourth time this season... in the Europa

 

[Wing Attack Plan R]

I used to get the player name and number on my replica kits, but there isn’t a single player in this squad I’d want to have on my shirt.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Conceding one away to Spurs is not the problem. Our complete inability to score goals is. Is that two goals in the last four PL games? Dreadful.

There were plenty of chances to be created but the decision making and finishing up front is fecking awful.

Oh, and we have no midfield.

Biggest positive from today: We are one game closer to the off-season.

Just worrying that the off-season might be a bit of a letdown as well.

 

[Fox outside the box]

My feelings exactly. Amorim has no guts to bring the youngsters on. I am so freaking frustrated by him.

May partly be some kind of challenge to the 11 he kept on. Everyone in that front line looks annoyed when they're subbed etc. OK lads, have the whole game, show everyone you are worth 90 mins.

Nope? Thought not.

Today was super frustrating, I get it, and Amorim isn't inspiring me at all outside of the odd conference because I do quite like how he speaks.

 

[ForeverRed1]

I'm very much convinced that Amorim isn't the right guy and should be sacked (I suspect we just can't afford to with PSR) but these are two things I wouldn't hold against him:

The midfield two he picked was pretty much his only option given the Mainoo, Ugarte, Collyer and Eriksen all got ruled out in a week. Fernandes-Casemiro was always going to struggle against an Ange team but they are literally the only two fit midfielders in the squad that have ever played a Premier League minute of football.

And keeping your first eleven on through the 90 when your bench looks like that is reasonable. You're essentially balancing fatigue of the starters against the inexperience of the replacements and deciding you have more of a chance with the fatigued first teamers. Fair enough.

You can’t be totally risk adverse you have to take risks especially when we’re in our situation.

Hojlund and zirkzee aren’t scoring, you’ve got a kid there who’s breaking records. Sometimes you got to roll the dice and every young player that makes an impact is given their debut by someone who is essentially taking a risk.

He could have come on and got something. It would have been a story. It would have been a special moment. Hojlund was never scoring in that game.

 

[BestRed]

Will this shite ever end, feck me 15th place, half them useless pricks should hand back their wages, cause they do feck all to earn them week in week out.

 

[downunder red]

I said it last game. We would be a better side with out Dalot.
The number of times he passed back when he had the wing wide open; so frustrating.