[The Purley King]

No it's not. Kone is only just recently starting to look comfortable in the youth teams. At some point we may be forced and these kids may surprise us, but anyone assuming they have looked like better options than the ones on the pitch is sorely mistaken.

The kids were on the bench to fill numbers and as no one got injured to force the manager's hand, they stayed there as expected

Gutless.

 

[Spark]

35 goals have been scored against us. The same as scored against City, who are in the top 4.

How many goals have we scored compared to City?

 

[Ollie Derbyshire]

100% disagree about moving on. It's a flaw in his game but he's still far and away our most gifted technical player, one of the best chance creators in the Premier League, and somehow runs constantly for 90 minutes no matter how many games he plays and never gets injured. It's one thing to think he has parts of his games that are frustrating, quite another to think we'd be better without him. Especially THIS team.

As we need a full rebuild, there is no need to build it around an aging Bruno. He’s been part of the worst team I’ve seen at this club putting in mostly poor performances in the last couple of years.

 

[Nas-JR]

Flat-footed, caught on their heels, snatching at chances (garnacho), rushing everything (bruno), zero composure (that last 10 minutes was disgraceful! BRUNO!!). There is just a general and very serious lack of football intelligence. You are playing with wingbacks and one in particular willing runner in Dorgu, F***ing, use him!! Even if your main MO is to cut in and shoot (garnacho), use the wingback once or twice to keep the defender guessing. Why is garnacho so bloody braindead?!

 

[Salus Populi Suprema Lex]

When does the R-word thread get made?

We need to be grateful that the bottom three are so bad this season, otherwise we would be in the thick of the relegation battle.

 

[Ollie Derbyshire]

No one should have been rated higher than 5, with most being 3.

I thought defence was good enough given they had zero midfield protection.

Wonder how the anti Ugarte fans felt about it today.

 

[pratyush_utd]

40? So one of the teams that have managed 17 points in the first 25 games is going to get 23 points in the last 13? Loool

40 is considered safe. Thats why i mentioned 40

 

[DomesticTadpole]

How many goals have we scored compared to City?

They have scored 52 in a bad season for them, we have scored 28. Spurs have scored 49.

 

[Red4ever27]

We are very lucky Southampton, Leicester, Ipswich and Wolves are having a really terrible season. I can't see us beating Everton away and a loss to Ipswich the following Wednesday will have me truly worried.

It's hard to see where the goals are coming from, especially with Amad now out. Hojlund needs to be sold ASAP, he adds nothing to the team, why Obi wasn't given a proper chance baffles me. Casemiro staying on when his legs were clearly gone and he was on a yellow is another weird one.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

40 is considered safe. Thats why i mentioned 40

Think it has been lower than that for a while. Some really bad sides promoted.

 

[engie92]

Another "six-pointer" lost. Terrible performance by some players especially our captain. Serious questions needs to be asked about Amorim also.
We are currently in relegation battle.

 

[Wing Attack Plan R]

I can accept losing if we go down swinging. If the manager used every tool available and every trick up his sleeve. Sometimes you get beaten even when playing well.

Today we did not play well. And the manager just watched it unfold like a 90 minute train wreck. We took no risks and lost anyway, timidly, like a bunch of scared rabbits.

We didn’t even get the joy of our “fetch that, cnut” (@T00lsh3d ) hopeful punts into channels. Slow, inaccurate, poor decisions, terrible finishing, rookie mistakes, manager refusing to influence the game.

Wow. Proper shit.

 

[Ultimate Grib]

We are the "3 Points for Everybody" team

 

[UTD_Since_1978]

Dreadful again!

 

[moodyred]

Onana - 6, should have done better with the goal, but saved everything else
Mazraoui - 6, solid
Maguire - 6, solid
De Ligt - 6, solid
Dorgu - 6, decent
Dalot - 5, usual crapness
Casemiro - 3, shocking player now
Bruno - 3, gave the ball away every time
Garnacho - 5, should have done better with the chances he got
Zirkzee - 5, some nice control in tight places but makes frustrating choices at the times that matter
Hojlund - 3, lost nearly every duel

Hojlund not just lost every duel, but either fouls the players or get caught offside when the ball is passed upfront. His positioning is also terrible. Never there to receive a cross.

 

[lex talionis]

Four letter words come to mind.

 

[Cantonagotmehere]

I'm the biggest optimist around when it comes to sports, but this getting very hard to deal with.

 

[THEJAMFAN]

We are the only team to make Spurs look good :-(

 

[Lash]

Really? He lost the ball nearly every time he tried to pass it.

He was awful,playing in a 2 man midfield and decided to have no positional awareness at all,still trying to close down the keeper??? and tried his luck out wide on the right in the second half.

Oh? Which of his crap crosses/long balls did you like?

I thought he was the only one who knew how to thread a proper pass through to the strikers. They were just dross. I agree he's never going to be a 2 man midfield player, but that's hardly his fault.

There were loads of balls he player where our dunce players were on their heels or offside. Even Zirkzee for all his great hold up play, twisting and turning, held onto the ball for too long when passes were on.

 

[Cathy Ferguson]

That Garnacho miss proved to be very costly. We don't create much so we must be more clinical.

 

[The Constant Gardener]

Onana - 6, should have done better with the goal, but saved everything else
Mazraoui - 6, solid
Maguire - 6, solid
De Ligt - 6, solid
Dorgu - 6, decent
Dalot - 5, usual crapness
Casemiro - 3, shocking player now
Bruno - 3, gave the ball away every time
Garnacho - 5, should have done better with the chances he got
Zirkzee - 5, some nice control in tight places but makes frustrating choices at the times that matter
Hojlund - 3, lost nearly every duel

Onana probably 6 too high mate.

Absolutely shocking keeper, can't save a shot without parrying to an opposition player. Throws our players into trouble.

Needs to be moved on sharpish and Bayinder given a chance.

 

[Hammondo]

I thought he was the only one who knew how to thread a proper pass through to the strikers. They were just dross. I agree he's never going to be a 2 man midfield player, but that's hardly his fault.

There were loads of balls he player where our dunce players were on their heels or offside. Even Zirkzee for all his great hold up play, twisting and turning, held onto the ball for too long when passes were on.

I'm not sure if it's because you haven't watched other teams, but his creative passer were crap.

 

[dinostar77]

As long as the current bottom 4 in PL drop more points than us, it's fine.

 

[Hammondo]

Onana probably 6 too high mate.

Absolutely shocking keeper, can't save a shot without parrying to an opposition player. Throws our players into trouble.

Needs to be moved on sharpish and Bayinder given a chance.

He made a lot of saves.

 

[Salford_Red83]

See you in the Championship boys

 

[johndurham49]

Flat-footed, caught on their heels, snatching at chances (garnacho), rushing everything (bruno), zero composure (that last 10 minutes was disgraceful! BRUNO!!). There is just a general and very serious lack of football intelligence. You are playing with wingbacks and one in particular willing runner in Dorgu, F***ing, use him!! Even if your main MO is to cut in and shoot (garnacho), use the wingback once or twice to keep the defender guessing. Why is garnacho so bloody braindead?!

Spot on with Dorgu mate. Thought he put in a shift but for some reason others didn't read into his runs

 

[Moriarty]

Two poor teams on display today. Draw would have been a fair result but, as it was in 1974, we just can't score. I don't know what Ruben was thinking during the last quarter of the game but he had nothing to lose by putting on one or two subs. They would have been an unknown quantity to Spurs and might have salvaged a point. Instead, he kept on hoping that Rasmus would finally turn into a centre-forward and hit the net. We might fall even further down the table but thank goodness Ipswich, Southampton, and Leicester don't look like escaping.

 

[Daengophile]

It wasn't great to start with but our passing got worse the more tired the players got.

Regardless of their age he has to try fresh legs in the last 20 minutes.

Remember the booing that Zirkzee got?

 

[VictoriaRed]

...sigh.

 

[stevoc]

Yes, and apparently we are going to get a lot of better players for no money while selling our castoffs for a king’s ransom.

Yeah and I'm sure there's a load of World Class players willing to a club that won't even be in Europe next season, their clubs will let them go for modest fees and they won't even want big wages to help us out with PSR.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

He made a lot of saves.

All of them totally routine... And he still managed to feck up one routine one.

 

[Widow]

We created enough changes to win today but we've put too much pressure on kids! We need experience in that front line.

 

[Offside]

It’s another game where we could’ve won but we don’t because of shocking finishing and defensive boo boos. That won’t change until we get rid of the morons. I’m starting to think the Goalie should be first out the door.

 

[Hammondo]

All of them totally routine... And he still managed to feck up one routine one.

Fair enough.

 

[sparx99]

40 is considered safe. Thats why i mentioned 40

40 was some arbitrary number people came up with. It’s virtually impossible for the bottom three to catch us given how little they win.

 

[djd]

Today we did not play well. And the manager just watched it unfold like a 90 minute train wreck.

Except for that weird camera shot where he preferred to stare at the ground instead of watching a spurs corner

 

[Ole'sgunnarwin]

Obviously not getting relegated this season but next season is a possibility as things just seen to get worse and worse

 

[sparx99]

It’s another game where we could’ve won but we don’t because of shocking finishing and defensive boo boos. That won’t change until we get rid of the morons. I’m starting to think the Goalie should be first out the door.

You can see why the club might have sold Garnacho. He has some talent of course but until he improves his finishing and almost as importantly his chance creation & decision making then he isn’t a PL level winger. Dan James was no worse really.

 

[Hugh Jass]

We created enough changes to win today but we've put too much pressure on kids! We need experience in that front line.

Yea i agree. Should certainly have got a draw with the chances we had. We need a top top striker.

 

[Red Ten]

Think it has been lower than that for a while. Some really bad sides promoted.

35pts has been good enough in the last 6 seasons.
We need 6pts from 13 games.

However, if we lose to Everton next weekend (very likely) and Ipswich beat Spurs (very possible) at home then the gap will be 9pts.

Next game after them? Ipswich at home.