Allegedly stropping in training now. Lfc getting a taste of how Southampton feel
Philippe Coutinho
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Yeah I don't see your board waiting around a year. It's obvious they want signings now to save face over Neymar. The fallout of PSG's splurging is going to be an entire chain of transfers which will upset many clubs plans, I reckon.
In the long run coutinho would be the iniesta replacement and there few who could potentially fill that spot. So all the talk about "now-or-never" makes little sense. Who is Barca going to sign (in this transfer window) who has a similar profile and would make him redundant?
Source mate?
Quite certain that's false news since he's apparently been doing his best to get back to fitness after his back injury.
Some random tweet. That's why I said allegedly
Liverpool fans so salty. He wants to move and keeping him against his will won't end well.
Liverpool won't have the same threat level with Coutinho gone. But they still have decent options up top.
Sturridge/Solanke
Mane - - - - Firminho - - - - Salah
Can/Wijnaldum---Henderson
Mane - - - - Firminho - - - - Salah
Can/Wijnaldum---Henderson
interestingly its their strikers that look dodgy, could they get someone in? What about Benzema if Mbappe goes to Real
I wouldn't be surprised if Liverpool do try and hold him hostage as a slave. That's who they are as a club. But he will be leaving and they should have the good grace to accept it now and save everyone all the drama.
I'm usually against Brazilian players moving the World Cup year unless they are in desperate need of playing time so I hope he stays this season then he can move after the World Cup.
You mean like Soton are doing with Van Dijk? Like Leipzig did with Keita? Like United did with Ronaldo? Feck sake
You'd think a club trying to do everything they can to keep their best player is a bad thing if you read your post.Not sure if you're serious...
He freely signed a new contract this year which made him club's highest wage earner on 150k per week until 2022 and without a release clause. He has obligation to honor that contract also if Liverpool doesn't breach it in any way, and also they have every right to keep the player considering that.
I'm all for him leaving at the end because it weakens Liverpool but this kind of arguments don't make any sense.
Will he be a definite starter at Barca? If not, then probably doesn't make sense to move in a WC year.
Anyway, if not this season, he will get his move next year.
Anyway, if not this season, he will get his move next year.
Are you for real? Hold him hostage as a slave....? Jeez
The same player who recently signed a long term contract?
Quite laughable comments, Barca have bid and we turned it down, that's where we are at.
Oh my.
Christ. He is their best player, of course theyre going to put up a fight.
Sturridge is unfit 9 times out of 10, and Solanke has done nothing in his career yet to make Liverpool want to be reliant on him.
I'm guessing it'd mean Lallana in behind Firmino, but obviously you'd imagine Liverpool will have to sign someone.
The most difficult thing to gauge with this transfer is how intent Coutinho is on moving. It doesn't have to be that either he wants to stay or go, he could be conflicted or perhaps he is happy at either club. If Coutinho is not actively pressing the issue, then it makes it much easier for Liverpool to maintain their stance.
I think he wants to go but understandably has developed a degree of loyalty to Liverpool and knows he's likely to leave them in the shit if he does leave. He's also probably wondering exactly how much football he's going to play at Barcelona and how he's going to fit in there when arguably better players have flopped and been shipped back out within a couple of seasons, whereas he's fairly comfortably one of Liverpool's best players.
You mean like Soton are doing with Van Dijk? Like Leipzig did with Keita? Like United did with Ronaldo? Feck sake
To be honest it´s overall pretty annoying that these guys will gladly sign five year extensions for the financiall security in case they bust their knee tomorrow. But when a better offer comes they automatically assume the club is obligated to release them immediately. I´d like to see the outcry, if a club said well you have been shite for the last year, how about we cut your salary in half on an existing contract.
Well if Barca invest 100m in him, I'm sure he will be a first team regular. He's no Neymar but he's still a very good player and Barca don't really a type of player in the same mould as him. He gives them more attacking options and variety. Good point about the risk of playing for Barca, but if he's ambitious then he's taking a risk by staying at Liverpool because Barca are more likely to win major trophies.
Who to? If he doesn't go this year Barca are going to have to go out and buy a new player, they won't want to just hobble along especially as this time next year player prices could increase again meaning the 110m is worth sod all. Barca will go and find a midfielder. That leaves Coutinho in the situation of wanting to leave and having no club to go to other than a handful, Madrid won't want him, so it would end up as City or PSG which may not interest him. That is what he will be thinking, do I move now or take the risk that I can't move there next year and I have to move elsewhere a big problem if you have dreamt of playing for Barca
I just feel that it will be more of a board decision than that of Klopp. Whether they prefer the business side or the football side. Given the talk of the board not having much money to spend
on players and knowing the fact that Barca are coming to England loaded with tons of bags of cash, it might be difficult for them to turn down. I am sure that they would probably squeeze the max they can from them.
on players and knowing the fact that Barca are coming to England loaded with tons of bags of cash, it might be difficult for them to turn down. I am sure that they would probably squeeze the max they can from them.
It´s funny that people still underestimate Lallana. If he is fit, he plays. Of course that he´ll miss two months only makes it worse for Liverpool should they lose Coutinho. I´d try to sign Lemar and Christensen (once VVD goes to Chelsea) for €120M
Lemar Firmino Mane
Lallana Henderson Wijnaldum
Milner Matip Christensen TAA
Mignolet
2nd team
Solanke Origi
Moreno Grujic Can Salah
Richardson Lovren Klavan Clyne
Karius
It´s not the end of the world. It´s just the message behind letting Coutinho go.
@johnny boy You going to be ok when Cout is sold mate? I'm worried about you.
Liverpool's lineup looks considerably better when you completely overlook the goalkeeper and defence.
There's also virtually no backup with Lallana injured, Lucas sold, Sturridge (as good as) injured and Coutinho potentially on his way out.
Henderson, Can, Wijnaldum as your main midfielders isn't going to win Liverpool the league.
Been saying that Henderson and Can are nowhere near good enough for three years now.
If I were the scousers I'd use the Coutinho money, if it comes, to buy a CB and a CM.
Been saying that Henderson and Can are nowhere near good enough for three years now.
If I were the scousers I'd use the Coutinho money, if it comes, to buy a CB and a CM.
Good call about Christensen. He's been silently brilliant for Gladbach and is only like 21 or something.
I'd like to see a team that looks like this:
---------------New striker----------------
Coutinho-------Firmino-------------Mane
-------Henderson------Wijnaldum-------
Robertson--Matip---New CB/Christ--Clyne
----------------Mignolet---------------------
And then have Milner, Lallana, Lovren, Salah, Can etc for rotation and when the inevitable injuries come.
It'll probably be Firmino spearheading the attack, though.
That´s why they tried to buy Keita and will do again next summer. But you don´t want to buy for the sake buying somebody that will most likely be at the same level as Henderson, Wijnaldum or Can. Grujic will probably get to their level, too. I think Liverpool´s plan was to occasionally drop Coutinho back, sign Keita for €80M, sell Can to Juve for €30M and line-up this way
Mane Firmino Salah
Coutinho Keita Lallana
which does look pretty awesome. Now it looks like they´ll not only not have Keita, Coutinho will leave and Lallana will be out till Oct./Nov.
Coutinho has no release clause. They won't sell for anything like the reported £73m bid knowing Barca have £222m and need a marquee signing. They've tried to buy Keita for that kind of money and been rejected, so they aren't desperate for cash either. Unless the player pushes for a move or it's upwards of £150m on the table I can't see him going anywhere.
I think it would have to be a £130m bid, with all addons included, maybe 105m upfront.
if Coutinho goes, Klopp will walk and given the way the summer has panned out after all the bluster about then finally being ready to put the money down.( money we've been saving and earned for a couple years) FSG are going to have an open rebellion. Although many reds will stop giving much of a feck about football under them.
Don't kid yourself, Klopp wouldn't resign over something like that and I seriously doubt there would be anything even remotely close to a rebellion. Some angry fans for sure, but since when do foreign owners really care about that.
Solanke is nowhere near ready for the first team or even their bench IMO.
FWIW, news18 is a Indian general news channel/website, which most times doesn't even know sh*t about Indian politics
I don't think the plan was to ever sell Can. Klopp seems too fond of him, and he is our only backup in the holding CM role. Keita is no DM. If we got him, i think the front 6 without injuries would be:
Mane Firmino Salah
Coutinho Keita
Henderson
Yea, none of them would get into your first 11, yada yada yada.
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