Philippe Coutinho

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bleedred said:
They are not going to say anything other than that, EVEN IF they are willing to sell. What else do you expect them to say?

If he is leaving, PR will be run as he put in transfer request in the next couple of days and such..., and will be sold.

Like people say, No smoke without fire, so its pretty sure there is some sort of negotiation going on.
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I take your points.

All I am saying is I go off what the more trusted and reliable sources quote rather than ESPN = who I have never ever come across reports or confirmation ever as yet of any LFC player incoming or outgoing.

The likes of James Pearce and Melissa Reddy are more likely to have a more realistic assessment of what is happening (in my opinion).

If the player is sold then that's what will happen, but for me as it stands these reports of a deal agreed are not from what I would regard as reliable sources.

Given the season starts this weekend, and we haven't been able to acquire our main 2 targets I would be surprised if we agree a deal to sell him. That's not saying it won't happen (either this window or the next), but I haven't seen anything official today that says it's been agreed.
 
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johnny boy said:
I take your points.

All I am saying is I go off what the more trusted and reliable sources quote rather than ESPN = who I have never ever come across reports or confirmation ever as yet of any LFC player incoming or outgoing.

The likes of James Pearce and Melissa Reddy are more likely to have a more realistic assessment of what is happening (in my opinion).

If the player is sold then that's what will happen, but for me as it stands these reports of a deal agreed are not from what I would regard as reliable sources.
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So basically you chose to believe the sources who is expressing your viewpoint.

Again, Like I said, people close to the club would be lynched by you lot, if they said anything other than what they are saying now.
 
Yeah, people still believing there isn't a possibility of him leaving have their heads in the sand. It's clear, given the multiple sources reporting it, that there is some sort of deal being hashed out.
 
bleedred said:
So basically you chose to believe the sources who is expressing your viewpoint.

Again, Like I said, people close to the club would be lynched by you lot, if they said anything other than what they are saying now.
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No, I am trusting sources I follow regularly through the season.

My viewpoint is irrelevant, I don't know what is going on, only that Klopp says he isn't for sale and reliable journalists echo that is the current situation still.
 
Subho611 said:
Yeah, people still believing there isn't a possibility of him leaving have their heads in the sand. It's clear, given the multiple sources reporting it, that there is some sort of deal being hashed out.
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Okay can you quote these multiple sources please?

Subho611 said:
Can you post a link? The only one I could see is locked.
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Check the annual transfer section.
 
Subho611 said:
Sure. Here you go -

http://metro.co.uk/2017/08/08/barce...ing-philippe-coutinho-from-liverpool-6836704/

http://www.espn.in/football/soccer-...o-sell-philippe-coutinho-to-barcelona-sources

http://www.news18.com/news/sports/c...england-to-finalise-deal-reports-1486309.html
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news18.com?
Metro aren't the most trusted source either, and I have never checked espn for any footie news.

If it happens, then it does, as it stands I am not sure it will based upon these sources. but guess we will find out at some point.
 
johnny boy said:
news18.com?
Metro aren't the most trusted source either, and I have never checked espn for any footie news.

If it happens, then it does, as it stands I am not sure it will based upon these sources. but guess we will find out at some point.
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news18 is a subsidiary of CNN in India. I am also taking these with a pinch of salt but definitely there is some fire here.

For your sake I hope the deal falls through.
 
The British media say it isn't happening. I'll go with them.

We've seen this shit with Garay, Sneidjer and numerous others with us. Foreign press convinced that something is about to happen.

Majority of the time it comes to nothing.
 
Subho611 said:
news18 is a subsidiary of CNN in India. I am also taking these with a pinch of salt but definitely there is some fire here.

For your sake I hope the deal falls through.
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Sorry as much as I like India, I have several friends there :) that isn't a source I would necessarily concern myself with.

As it stands I haven't seen anything to indicate a deal is about to happen.
Obviously that could change I guess but we have as far as I know clearly said he is not for sale, let's see what happens now I suppose.
 
SirScholes said:
How do you know he didn't get near?
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Because I watched him and he played of a standard of someone who wouldn't get near it.
And didn't, rightly.

And I watch him tonight against Real and he just continues to prove my point. Such a stocking.
 
johnny boy said:
The thread is open and they are discussing those things mate.
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So it's been re-opened after at least two threads were either locked or had "no Countinho" discussion in the thread title. And how long will it stay open for?

Edit: I just looked and the Coutinho thread is locked and has been since nearly 5am this morning.

And in the Transfer section, there is no Coutinho thread, just a "General Transfers" thread which includes "No Coutinho, Cowardice" in the thread title.
 
Wow, this can very possibly be happening.

Looked like it would be nearly impossible with the season about to start and there being very little time for Liverpool to find any sort of replacement. But seems Barca and co are really trying to force the situation. Curious to see what comes of this...
 
giorno said:
It's a world cup year, and Coutinho is brazilian. If he has a bad season, his spot on the team would be in jeopardy. Liverpool can refuse to even meet barcelona, player's not going to go on strike over it
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A bad season wouldn't hurt his World Cup chances if his international form is unaffected. Even then I doubt Tite would drop him as he has been excellent for us.
 
DiceRoller said:
Because I watched him and he played of a standard of someone who wouldn't get near it.
And didn't, rightly.

And I watch him tonight against Real and he just continues to prove my point. Such a stocking.
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so that means you know how the team of the year was picked? Nice, didn't realise they asked for your info
 
johnny boy said:
Sorry as much as I like India, I have several friends there :) that isn't a source I would necessarily concern myself with.

As it stands I haven't seen anything to indicate a deal is about to happen.
Obviously that could change I guess but we have as far as I know clearly said he is not for sale, let's see what happens now I suppose.
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It's on like donkey Kong, Barcelona are loaded, coutinho wants to leave, its time to scramble and look for an equally over priced attacking mid.
Teams will know you're loaded with 100mil and desperate, welcome to our world
 
GlastonSpur said:
So it's been re-opened after at least two threads were either locked or had "no Countinho" discussion in the thread title. And how long will it stay open for?

Edit: I just looked and the Coutinho thread is locked and has been since nearly 5am this morning.

And in the Transfer section, there is no Coutinho thread, just a "General Transfers" thread which includes "No Coutinho, Cowardice" in the thread title.
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Re: Liverpool Reject Barca bid of £72m for Coutinho. No further Updates: NO FSG
 
Buchan said:
Called it here a while back. Like-for-like replacement for him. Coutinho 13/14 eerily similar to Lanzini 16/17. I think he'd do very well under Klopp.
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Lanzini is clearly inferior to Coutinho tbh. Would be a downgrade.
 
Ban said:
Still about 3 weeks till the end of the window. Not so late.
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Yeah but he's their star player. I find it hard to believe he couldn't wait 1 more season and leave in June/July next season and allow Liverpool to get a proper replacement.
 
VorZakone said:
Lanzini is clearly inferior to Coutinho tbh. Would be a downgrade.
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He is now, but Liverpool aren't going to get a Coutinho-esque talent to replace the Brazilian, and certainly not for a reasonable fee. Players with potential, and no little quality as it is, like Lanzini, should be targets for them. Lanzini would flourish under Klopp and in 1-2 seasons' time, people could start their Coutinho comparisons.
 
Buchan said:
He is now, but Liverpool aren't going to get a Coutinho-esque talent, and certainly not for a reasonable fee. Players with potential, and no little quality as it is, like Lanzini, should be targets for them. Lanzini would flourish under Klopp and in 1-2 seasons' time, people could start their Coutinho comparisons.
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And this is why I think Liverpool won't sell him this summer. The PL has almost began and it would just disrupt their start of the season.
 
Buchan said:
He is now, but Liverpool aren't going to get a Coutinho-esque talent to replace the Brazilian, and certainly not for a reasonable fee. Players with potential, and no little quality as it is, like Lanzini, should be targets for them. Lanzini would flourish under Klopp and in 1-2 seasons' time, people could start their Coutinho comparisons.
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While I don't disagree with you, we need top quality now and not in two years time. Which is why I still think it would be absolute madness to let him go. All the more trusted sources close to the club are still reporting our stance hasn't changed though, so at least that's good to hear for us.
 
RobinLFC said:
While I don't disagree with you, we need top quality now and not in two years time. Which is why I still think it would be absolute madness to let him go. All the more trusted sources close to the club are still reporting our stance hasn't changed though, so at least that's good to hear for us.
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The club sources are bound to brief that, though. When Coutinho does leave (which I think is inevitable at this stage), they can always claim they did everything they could to keep him but his will to leave, along with the great offer from Barcelona, changed things.

This is only a face-saving exercise from Liverpool, nothing else.
 
Buchan said:
The club sources are bound to brief that, though. When Coutinho does leave (which I think is inevitable at this stage), they can always claim they did everything they could to keep him but his will to leave, along with the great offer from Barcelona, changed things.

This is only a face-saving exercise from Liverpool, nothing else.
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Some people thought the same about Leipzig's stance regarding the sale of Keita and look how that turned out. If they intend to sell him, I don't want to hear them saying sweet nothings to their fans as that would only make it worse and make it feel more like a farce. Don't say one thing to save face and do the other thing the next day.

I've got no idea whether he will stay or go at this point, but I'd be very disappointed with FSG if so, not with Coutinho.
 
There's been leaks that certain board members are willing to accept the Barcelona offer. There's been mysterious injuries which ruled Coutinho out of the Bilbao friendly. There's been relentless Spain and Brazil-based reports that Coutinho wants the move and has agreed terms.

We've all read this story before and we all know the ending.
 
Buchan said:
There's been leaks that certain board members are willing to accept the Barcelona offer. There's been mysterious injuries which ruled Coutinho out of the Bilbao friendly. There's been relentless Spain and Brazil-based reports that Coutinho wants the move and has agreed terms.

We've all read this story before and we all know the ending.
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Yep, this is happening. Can't blame Coutinho but also, Liverpool fans don't need to stress too much. Losing Mane would hurt more. Maybe.
 
Peanut Butter said:
Lanzini to replace Coutinho, apparently.
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Source? Why do people keep posting things and not backing it up?

If you are going to keep coming out with "this is happening" also at least post a link that backs it up. Jeez.
 
Coutinho will never show the same drive at Liverpool if he is hold against his will. If you can't convince him to stay with the sporting project, he should be let go. You get a lot of money in return and nobody is fooling anyone in this deal.
 
serghei said:
Coutinho will never show the same drive at Liverpool if he is hold against his will. If you can't convince him to stay with the sporting project, he should be let go. You get a lot of money in return and nobody is fooling anyone in this deal.
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Staying another year would benefit Liverpool regardless as he's that important of a player in my opinion.

It's like with Suarez staying that extra year. He led them to their best league campaign in donkeys, and Ronaldo with us in 08/09, leading us to another PL title (one Liverpool could have well won if he had left) and a CL final.
 
Yagami said:
Staying another year would benefit Liverpool regardless as he's that important of a player in my opinion.

It's like with Suarez staying that extra year. He led them to their best league campaign in donkeys, and Ronaldo with us in 08/09, leading us to another PL title (one Liverpool could have well won if he had left) and a CL final.
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Staying another year would benefit Liverpool but not Coutinho imo. The chance is now for him. Who knows what happens in a year. As a player, when an opportunity like that presents itself you take it right then and there.
 
Yagami said:
Staying another year would benefit Liverpool regardless as he's that important of a player in my opinion.

It's like with Suarez staying that extra year. He led them to their best league campaign in donkeys, and Ronaldo with us in 08/09, leading us to another PL title (one Liverpool could have well won if he had left) and a CL final.
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The question arises that will Barca be willing to wait a year? They ideally need to strengthen now. Madrid winning La Liga again would be disastrous from their point of view.

Next summer you could argue better options will be available such as Griezmann. It's a risk if Coutinho stays.
 
If Coutinho doesn't go this year it's a gamble with his career. I can't see Barca coming in for him next year, they need to buy now to stave off supporter revolt over Neymar. If he stays this year it is going to be a good chance that Barca move onto other targets or just wait for Griezmann. After this year I can't see anyone but PSG/City then signing him. Madrid won't need him, Liverpool would never sell to us or Chelsea, so his only options would be City or PSG.
 
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