Saying he's not better than Eriksen is ridiculous. I know Eriksen links well with Kane and Alli but Coutinho is a level above him. He'd also get into Chelsea's team on the right of Morata in a 3 with Hazard. He's inconsistent but he's very good.
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It's all a bit daft saying he will or won't get in other teams, players don't necessarily fit in with some teams style of play.
When Tite was appointed as manager of Brazil, one of the first things he did was make Coutinho the playmaker of the team and a regular starter. Ever since then, Brazil haven't lost a single qualifier game and have been the most in-form national team of the past year.
That should tell you something.
I'd take Coutinho here in a heartbeat. He'd be the ideal replacement for Iniesta.
That should tell you something.
I'd take Coutinho here in a heartbeat. He'd be the ideal replacement for Iniesta.
Would you sell Pogba for £140m if an offer came in? No you wouldn't, cos he's irreplaceable and it wouldn't make sense even if the offer is way more than he's actually worth.
That's different because we don't have 4 players of similar ability to Pogba
Better at what?
He gets less goals and assists and all round effects less games
Why not just drop Hueng Min-Son instead
Being a better player. Goals and assists aren't everything, the only place they're really comparable between players is when looking at pure centre forwards. All players offer different things. Iniesta has never had great stats where that's concerned but affects the game in other ways.
The best players can fit in any team, Ronaldo, Messi, Suarez, Neymar, Hazard, Bale, Lewandoswki, Pogba, Sanchez there's not a team in the world these players couldn't play for (and there's many others I could list as well Modric, Kroos, Thiago etc etc)
Coutinho is a good player but I just don't get the hype for him. Scores the odd rocket and then disappears for a few matches.
I agree stats aren't everything but Coutinho and Eriksen are very comparable players, they're both number 10's who can play from a wider area generally the left however Eriksen (and another plus point in his favour) has shown he was play from the right also
Coutinho is a little bit inconsistent and can be frustrating at times but when on form he is a superior player than Eriksen and definitely more capable of producing something out of nothing.
It kinda depends on what do you want/prefer? A more consistent player who will get you regular good performances or a more talented player who can be frustrating sometimes but then again, when he hits the form, can give you a lot of almost world-class performances.
From Barcelona point of view, can see why would they go after Coutinho as it's logical that his inconsistency would improve in a much better side. This is also a strange one, as Liverpool have their best players behind the striker and can even compensate for his leaving. It almost makes sense for them to sell for big money and then improve other areas of the pitch.
It kinda depends on what do you want/prefer? A more consistent player who will get you regular good performances or a more talented player who can be frustrating sometimes but then again, when he hits the form, can give you a lot of almost world-class performances.
From Barcelona point of view, can see why would they go after Coutinho as it's logical that his inconsistency would improve in a much better side. This is also a strange one, as Liverpool have their best players behind the striker and can even compensate for his leaving. It almost makes sense for them to sell for big money and then improve other areas of the pitch.
Even if you accept they are comparable, Coutinho still has better stats anyway. 14 goals in 36 games last season compared to Eriksen's 12 in 48.
Salah and Mane are very different players to Coutinho and cannot play the role Coutinho does for Brazil.
Very few was better than Nani at his absolute best, and Queresma was arguably better still. Sterling is pretty awesome when he is at his best. Lennon was a handful for the elite fullbacks at his best. Key here is consistency. Throughout a season, you would want someone to perform to high levels throughout the majority of the season, not someone who gives you a 10/10 performance one day followed up by a 3/10 and then a 4/10, which Coutinho most likely will give you. The very best players are extremely consistent, whereas Coutinho is not. Currently, Eriksen is the better player even if Coutinho can be more flashy and arguably has a higher ceiling.
Agreed - there's the whole passport ordeal to fight for that role for Brazil!
Coutinho wasn't even inconsistent last season. He was consistently good to very good up until his injury in November (I think?), needed a few games to regain form once he returned which is only normal imo and was our best player again during the run in for top 4 at the end of the season. If he kicks on from there he'll be, or could be, consistently decisive for us next year. Anyway this isn't really a discussion for a transfer thread...
This is my problem with Coutinho also but the transfer can go two ways if it does happen. For £80m Liverpool would surely get a better player. If I was Klopp and I sold Coutinho then I'd try and get Nasri for cheap (I think City would practically give him away) and look to strengthen elsewhere.
Nani in his best years is a good example when talking about Coutinho, although Quaresma is a bad comparison. Quaresma was never a better player than Nani and especially not when Nani was at his absolute best which was for a season or a two when he was just below world class level. Sterling is also a good shout although Coutinho is a better player (passing, vision, shooting) than him.
That's why I said that it depends on what you prefer? More consistent player or higher ceiling (more talented) player capable of moments of brilliance. When talking about two of them and who is a better player, Eriksen currently IMO operates in much more functional Spurs side which also helps him. Coutinho doesn't have any problems with consistency in Brazil national team. For me, Eriksen is a little more consistent but not a better player looking at them purely individually and what they could bring to another team.
Samir Nasri - the 30 year-old, bad-attitude has-been who only managed 2 goals in 20+ appearances for Sevilla last season- as a Coutinho replacement?!
I would love it if Klopp did this but I don't think he is quite that deranged yet... you on the other hand?
There's nobody they could buy who's better. They could get £200m for him and still be worse off.
I think Coutinho will be off and Klopp will use that money to buy Keita.
Keita is going nowhere and as it stands neither is Coutinho. We don't need the money from sales to buy him, but clearly Leipzig aren't selling.
He is not for sale. They can try with 100m, who knows, but he is gettable next summer for half that price
At that stage, if he really is great, there will be far better clubs in for him. He won't be joining Liverpool.
Leipzig will tie him down to a new contract this year. So next year it is going to be much more difficult.
He'd get into every side, bar maybe City -- assuming Bernardo Silva hits the ground running. Coutinho is a very good player.
He is a great player and it would hurt Liverpool a lot. Hopefully it happens
In place of who at each of those clubs?
Coutinho is a great little player. Reminds a bit of Iniesta. Although, not as good obviously, but also much more of a goal threat.
Didn't rate him at Inter as he had injury problems but he overcame them and how.
Will be glad to be rid of the little scouse bastard.
He's going cause an opportunity like that - to go Barca - won't come every season and he knows that.
Didn't rate him at Inter as he had injury problems but he overcame them and how.
Will be glad to be rid of the little scouse bastard.
He's going cause an opportunity like that - to go Barca - won't come every season and he knows that.
Eriksen is definitely the better player but it's a moot point because regardless of how much pool sell Coutinho for, they're not getting anyone as good, let alone an improvement. They should hang on regardless of the amount.
Coutinho is a very good player. The caf has been, unsurprisingly, always been very harsh on him. He's easily better than Eriksen. Not quite up there with Nani yet however but on his way.
Also Quaresma should never be in this discussion. Overrated show pony.
Also Quaresma should never be in this discussion. Overrated show pony.
this should be good (rubs hands)
Liv should sink their teeth in. Force Barcelona to go for dybala instead.
And Barca would be the better for it
Maybe Liverpool could do the PSG tactic and bid 200m for Umtiti.
Coutinho is no better than Rakitic was at Sevilla - he's the clearest example of how big a step up it is at Barca. Undoubtedly very gifted but Liverpool can surely improve on him for £90m.
Nani? Is that a joke?
Why is that a joke? Please do elaborate.
No but they can demand 140 m euros for coutinho to scare off barcelona Because he signed a fresh contract and barcelona will pretty much look elsewhere for better value for money.
Besides klopp is a better manager than valverde so coutinho could ignore the bandwagon.
No he's not.
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