Oh come on you can't be serious. Play pogba in a two, we will see how well he can pass or playmake or actually influence the game against top opponents.
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Oh come on you can't be serious. Play pogba in a two, we will see how well he can pass or playmake or actually influence the game against top opponents.
He's insanely good, now that José's gone himself, Lindelof, Herrera and especially Rashford are really showing their worth
To be fair, the main reasons for not playing Pogba in a two are defensive ones, not because he doesn’t have the footballing ability. Scholes wouldn’t play in a two in the current game either. Football has changed. If every team played a flat 4-4-2, then Pogba, like Scholes, could cope. As the game started evolving Fergie had Hargreaves or Park on one side more often than not to help out.
Probably my favourite player but it really doesn’t sit right with me.
Am reading that right? 23 Goal/Assists in 29 games this season. Pretty good considering he played under Jose half the season.
If he doesn’t make team of the year this season the EPL has to have a good look at it self.
My favorite part of the clip people are using to slag lukaku is the person who passes to young is the same person who is first to the loose ball that Lukaku loses (pogba)
He's a more purposeful passer than those players too which is what I like to see more than 100 passes at 99 ℅ accuracy.
People who claim he's better passer than Scholes need to calm down a bit.
Maybe it was 2 or 3 times more than most players I remember seeing. He does it quite too often for my liking. If he can cut that out of his game he would be unplayable. And I’m talking about the easier passes to make not the Hollywood balls out wide etc
A country mile better than De Gea? really?
I'd say:
Gen: none
T: De Gea, Pogba
WC: Rashford
VG: Martial
G: Matic, Herera, Shaw, Lindelof, Bailly, Lukaku, Lingard
M: the rest
Gen: generational player
T: talisman/ballon d'or level
WC: world class
VG: very good
G: good
M: mediocre
Mr Mourinho? He was the one to critisize Paul for everything first and foremost
From what I see at least, here the vast majority of people praise Pogba for creativity and attempts to set up chances. It goes without saying that not all the passes go through, but it's no problem as long as some do. Inability to make a key pass is critical, not 100% reliability in passing.Pretty good for sure, but it's better to look at stats under Ole as those are more representative. 11 goals/assists in 9 games is quite a respectable amount for a "virus".
Official numbers (PL and UEFA) are a bit lower - only 9 assists combined. Probably don't count things like shots deflected to teammates or being fouled for penalty/free kick goals. 20 in 29 is still outstanding.
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At the very least, it's a debatable topic. Where I give the edge to Pogba is in the variety of passes he can do, especially in short range, near the box, where he can use a bit of skill or body feint to create space for a deadly pass in a way Scholes didn't. As far as long range passing, they're both incredible on their day.
I'm very happy with him at the moment. Keep producing the goods.
The way I see it is that it's impossible to expect to carry us attacking wise, to create, run with the ball and expect him to be as optimal as he can be during defensive phases. I'm sure he'd love to help out the team more when it comes to that but there is a balance to be found and I'm pretty sure it's a struggle in each game.
No chance. Pogba is a terrific creative passer but Scholes' decision making was better, his vision and map of the pitch even split seconds was vastly bette, and his passing was brilliant whether creative or otherwise. The likes of him and Xavi had that special weight and accuracy in all kinds of passes and not just the fancy ones.
Pogba is a terrific passer but a better parallel is KDB.
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The guy gets United. To think that Jose almost managed to tun the fanbase against him.
Not at 25 it wasn't.
People remember Scholes's career as though all 20 years was rolled into one. He was a totally different footballer at different stages of his career. He arguably didn't reach his peak until his early 30s.
I agree with this. In my opinion, Beckham was a better midfielder than Scholes when they were young. Scholes however, turned into a completely new player as he approached 30 which highlighted many of his qualities that were not shown in his younger days.
This is what I’ve been saying too. Retired players basically become a YouTube compilation.
The Scholes that scored loads of goals every year did not control football matches, and the one that controlled football matches didn’t score loads of goals. People want Pogba to be Zidane, Xavi and Kanté all at the same time. There would be no need for other midfielders if that was the case. A midfielder who has 23 G+A by the first week in February could never be the problem. If we are conceding too many or don’t have control, the other midfielders need to sort it out.
De Bruyne registered 12 goals and 21 assists (52 games) in his most productive season at City (last), that too, in a more functional and positive team.
Pogba has 11 goals and 12 assists in just 29 games this season in an absolute mess.
One is (was) considered the best in the league, the other never seems to get much praise.
Pogba has 11 goals and 12 assists in just 29 games this season in an absolute mess.
One is (was) considered the best in the league, the other never seems to get much praise.
His long range crossfield switches are as good as Scholes. The difference is Scholes knew how to dictate the tempo and keep the ball moving side to side whereas Pogba is better at finding the killer pass. And i would also say he's got more variety to his passing than Scholes. Crossfield pass, volley pass, through pass... he does it all
I'd say he peaked in his late 20s (he turned 30 at the start of 04/05), but not disagreeing with the overall point of your post.
I think the fact that Pogba can do it all on his left-foot too shouldn’t be underestimated.
As rozay said Pogbas passing isnt the reason he "cant" play in a two. Its because of his lack of positional discipline and defensive qualities.
Pogbas a better passer than Scholes.
And also im sure Scholes played a lot of games in a midfield three.
No, not a better passer than Scholes was. Barely anyone was.
Pogba a better passer than Scholes is a complete fiction. It's not even close.
Yeah, both great passers but very different. If you want to control a game then Scholes is your man because his selection, intelligence and overall positional sense leave him in position to keep the team ticking and gain control of the match. If you're looking for explosive moments of magic and something out of nothing then perhaps Pogba's your guy. Not that either can't do what the other specialized in but they really play a lot differently. Overall Scholes could pass the football better I'd say. Pogba might have more highlight reel assists though by Scholes delivered some gorgeous passes deeper which may not have been assists but they opened the field up so much.
Scholes really had two phases. One was when he was closer to a number 10, often arriving late in the box and then as he slowed down, he used his knowledge and vision to be an equally valuable asset playing deeper and giving us far better control. Probably why we were consistently better in Europe during his later phase.
Another great passer, though he didn't quite his mark for us, was Veron. He still had some absolutely majestic passes in his time here despite being considered a flop.
Perfection
Not as consistent but capable of more outrageous passes in my opinion
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