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Considering he answered a post where I was saying that Pogba has shown lack of interest on the pitch for us I read that as " It's not Pogbas fault, No attacking player would show interest on the pitch for us. My bad if I misread that.
He isn't going to find anyone saying a bad thing about Pogba. Everyone will tell you that he is very professional and that he always creates a good atmosphere and bring his teammates together.
It seems unlikely that Pogba has an attitude problem at all, and if he does, it's very mild.
What he is, however, is a tactical problem for some of his managers. Especially when they are not particularly flexible with how they like to play or what is wanted from the players. Mourinho isn't the only manager that has been frustrated with him on the field, but Deschamps made it work somewhat in the end
What he is, however, is a tactical problem for some of his managers. Especially when they are not particularly flexible with how they like to play or what is wanted from the players. Mourinho isn't the only manager that has been frustrated with him on the field, but Deschamps made it work somewhat in the end
I don't remember anyone complaining about his attitude off the pitch or his quality. I don't get it why these topics are brought in when some criticize Pogba. He's criticized for his inconsistency and mentality on pitch, which are completely different from off it or his quality.
Even in his last game he create a fantastic chance for Mata.
He lost more possession than any other player and missed a sitter in the same game. But you're right he can do the exceptional at times but his "bads" overshadow his "goods" lately.
Just the other day he was criticised for posting a video before the Liverpool game.
He is criticised plenty this season for talking to the press
Criticised plenty for his haircuts.
Criticised for posting a video when we were playing Derby in the league cup.
What are you talking about? He is criticised plenty for things off the pitch.
Isnt it weird that jose is the only manager pogba hasn't performed for?
Strongly believe he will look a lot better when the new manager comes in.
For all we know, he’s going to Jose saying this is not how we played when I was here as a youth or how the seniors played under Sir Alex, and hence why he’s being made an example of.
He has the extrovert personality to speak out and no doubt Sir Alex liked him because he had a bit of fight to him and a desire to win.
For all we know, he’s going to Jose saying this is not how we played when I was here as a youth or how the seniors played under Sir Alex, and hence why he’s being made an example of.
He has the extrovert personality to speak out and no doubt Sir Alex liked him because he had a bit of fight to him and a desire to win.
The on field part is nonsense, he currently is one of the most creative players in the PL, he covers has much distance as Liverpool's midfielders in CL too and he has been alongside Martial our best performer this season. People have accused him of being toxic, willingly under performing, being unprofessional and leading a mutiny. So don't tell me that it's about on field performances.
The toxic line came after his second game coming back from an injury that saw him miss almost the entirety of November, Pogba is currently one of the most creative and prolific midfielders in the league statistically but since Castle wrote his piece some have completely forgot it.
I mean I don't know the guy personally but a glance at him and he doesn't come across like someone who would be toxic in the dressing room. In fact I see a fun guy who is always happy and joking around.
From videos and such I've seen of Pogba he is a chill, fun guy and very friendly to people around him which is why these talks about him being a virus and poison to other struck me as odd.
He's a Muslim and muslims generally are grateful people. Every new day is a blessing from God
All these things are about his quality or off the pitch attitude, which is completely away from what people criticize him for, and what you and most are struggling to get. On his day everyone know he's our best player by a long margin. Problem is he's inconsistent and has several games when he's not in the mood to play which is ridiculous for a player of such profile. Pogba's problem is he can't get himself to play 50 games a season with same level of focus and concentration. On his day he's unplayable, but he struggles to maintain this a whole 12 months straight of 2 games a week, and escalates between 9/10 and 4/10. That's what he's criticized for, which the replay on is, like your post, again talking about how great his quality is and how great a person is, both aren't questioned.
Bring me anyone here who said he's a dogshite footballer, or that he alienate the squad and his teammates, I bet you'll struggle to find more than 1 or 2 posts if any, because these aren't anyone's problem with him. His problem is inconsistency and how he turns for some matches in no mood to play. Of course his stats and youtube videos will be great, because that's not the problem with him, because he's a great player, but he's inconsistent as hell and struggle to keep a consistent 7/10 performance for a whole season. He was the same with Juve too, great but inconsistent.
He's not perfect by any means but its funny how Deschamps and past Juve managers didn't have a problem with him isn't it? Does Antonio Conte seem the type to tolerate a lazy fool in midfield if that's what he really is? No, me neither. If he was offered around for £50m tomorrow you'd have every good side on the planet in for him. He'll thrive under a proper manager, a manager that works on attacking patterns and a manager that doesn't despise flair players and fall out with every one. There is going to be a lot of humble pie eaten. I just hope we don't hang on to Mourinho for so long that it means we lose this lad.
Pogba would have been eaten alive if he started that game today.
However, chasing the game, he should have been the first one on
However, chasing the game, he should have been the first one on
Exactly.
You have to wonder wether Jose decision not to bring Pogba on was in the best interests of United or Mourinho
Honestly, I wouldn’t blame him if he left would almost be worth it, just to see some of our fans to be exposed as not very clever when he lights up somewhere else under a proper manager surrounded by quality.
As far as I'm concerned, they're getting their fair share of criticism.
A travesty that our best outfield player was left out against our most heated rivals over some petty bullshit
Let's criticise all our players for being inconsistent? Seems the problem is elsewhere ?
Are you on all the other player threads criticising their inconsistency?
Doesn't seem to me that the manager is escaping criticism either is he ?
I slaughter my share of players and the manager as well. The fact that some don't accept criticism of certain players in their threads, not just Pogba but some other players, that's not really my problem imo if you ask me. I treat everyone of the players and managers the same way. You do your job you get praise, you do shite you get the slack, players or managers. I didn't come to this thread after the match because he didn't play today, but I replied on certain point JPRouve made that seems he's misunderstanding the reason of criticism Pogba is getting, nothing more, nothing less.
We were badly in need of someone to come on and pass the ball with some accuracy but the cnut wouldn't allow it. Bringing him on, was for the good of the team but Mourinho's personal feud with the player took precedence.
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The worst start to a prem since it started....absolutely nothing to do with Pogba.
Agree whether people don't think he's world class or not, he's still our best midfielder so should have played.
Yes, he has done next to nothing on many occasions.
You don't need to wonder mate. Jose had no intention of ever playing him. His intention by having him on the bench was a calculated decision to embarrass him by not even playing him in a game we were losing.
Though if I was Paul I wouldn't give two shits. I would wait out the season and if Jose stays leave but if Jose is fired come out and say well what can you do with a virus at the helm
Jose doesn't care about United in fact I reckon he hates us. He insults the fans weekly by saying shit like Lukaku had a good game knowing full well that Lukaku has had about 20 worse games than Pogbas worst. Same goes for Matic.
Him and Utd are the perfect fit then....
Obviously he is inconsistent, but i think your reasoning is wrong. Even in his worst games he does try. He's never going to be a player that busts a lung to get back and defend but he's not that on his best day either, and if we bought him thinking he would be then its our own fault.
He's a confidence player. His way of trying is to take the ball and get us playing but he can only do that if he has movement around him, and if he doesn't he starts to get frustrated and lose his head. I don't know whether its because hes grown up in a bubble or what, but he doesn't seem to be able to cope with things not going his way. If Ferguson was managing him it would be a case of an arm around the shoulder, make him feel better and watch him improve, but Mourinho is dropping him as soon as he makes a mistake and hanging him out to dry in the press. It's killing his natural ability and he's not the only one, you can see so many of the players go out there scared to take risks. We just focus on him because he's the big money player.
I'll bet money that when he leaves us he will absolutely dominate under a manager that knows something other than the stick approach.
No, we need a new manager to buy players that will actually commit to the team.
You don't need to wonder mate. Jose had no intention of ever playing him. His intention by having him on the bench was a calculated decision to embarrass him by not even playing him in a game we were losing.
Though if I was Paul I wouldn't give two shits. I would wait out the season and if Jose stays leave but if Jose is fired come out and say well what can you do with a virus at the helm
Jose doesn't care about United in fact I reckon he hates us. He insults the fans weekly by saying shit like Lukaku had a good game knowing full well that Lukaku has had about 20 worse games than Pogbas worst. Same goes for Matic.
He doesn't give two shits, that's why he is on the bench.
You don't need to wonder mate. Jose had no intention of ever playing him. His intention by having him on the bench was a calculated decision to embarrass him by not even playing him in a game we were losing.
Though if I was Paul I wouldn't give two shits. I would wait out the season and if Jose stays leave but if Jose is fired come out and say well what can you do with a virus at the helm
Jose doesn't care about United in fact I reckon he hates us. He insults the fans weekly by saying shit like Lukaku had a good game knowing full well that Lukaku has had about 20 worse games than Pogbas worst. Same goes for Matic.
Agree, even if someone thinks Pogba needs to be sold, what Jose is doing is lowering the price by not playing him. Im sure someone will come up with a daft 5 year plan of paying in instalments to take him off our hands....
My idea about Pogba is he's the cherry on the cake, someone you invest in when you have quality all around and want to inject more of it into your team, not someone you buy to build the team around. I'm pretty sure he's going to be great about in PSG, Madrid or Barca as he'll provide them with exactly what they need, which is more quality. That's how Juve and France used him, but we bought him basing on making him the leading icon of the team and build everything around his form, so I agree with one of your points that it was our own fault. We bought the cherry on the cake and expected it to be the cake itself. I don't think we'll ever get the best of Pogba till we have everything in the team perfect, but that's a problem, you can't pay 90m to expect to pay even 250-300m money to get him to be consistent. It's our own fault yeah.
He's on the bench because Mourinho doesn't know how to use him properly. Same as other players like Fred, Mata, Periera
So the new manager going to get rid of 90% of the other players too then...
Our best player wants our manager sacked so he plays bad on purpose, so we don't have him playing when we really need him. To me that is unacceptable.
Mourinho out!
Pogba out!
Mourinho out!
Pogba out!
In the short term He may have to give them some time to try and redeem themselves.
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