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Quality player with amazing ability but ultimately I wouldn’t care less if he left. I hate the circus he brings. I don’t think his good enough to be the number 1 player in the team. Looks brilliant with a strong supporting cast/structure. There’s no shame in that, not every player can be that scruff of the neck difference maker.

I don’t think his the kind of a player a team in “transition” can accommodate or expect to change the team’s fortunes. Maybe similar to Ozil in that sense.
 
Renegade said:
Quality player with amazing ability but ultimately I wouldn’t care less if he left. I hate the circus he brings. I don’t think his good enough to be the number 1 player in the team. Looks brilliant with a strong supporting cast/structure. There’s no shame in that, not every player can be that scruff of the neck difference maker.

I don’t think his the kind of a player a team in “transition” can accommodate or expect to change the team’s fortunes. Maybe similar to Ozil in that sense.
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Definitely agree with this, and this is why if he moves to a really good team I think he will shine. We will be left regretting the transfer but ultimately it's right player wrong time.
 
abdo99 said:
He won't play. Most likely. therefore Jose and some of our fans that claimed we was better against Fulham without will have to find another scapegoat this time.
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Well, it's an undisputed fact that we were better against Fulham so, I've no idea what you're talking about.

That can be put down to Fulham being utter shite, not Pogba being on the bench. Just happened to be a coincidence perhaps.
 
.Rossi said:
Well, it's an undisputed fact that we were better against Fulham so, I've no idea what you're talking about.

That can be put down to Fulham being utter shite, not Pogba being on the bench. Just happened to be a coincidence perhaps.
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Or the manager setting his team out with a game plan
 
el3mel said:
This logic doesn't make sense. Pogba has already had several great games this season. If he's escalating this quickly between 9/10 to 4/10 perofrmances from game to game then it's surely his problem not anyone else, I mean if he's affected by the awful state of the team he should be shite every game, not great in some and shite in others. His inconsistency is simply his problem. He can't bring himself to focus on playing a whole season 40-50 games with same concentration and commitment, which all other top players do. It's just getting more exposed here, but he has been always like that. Great player, but doesn't show up every day.
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Then what does that say about rest of our players?
 
shamans said:
Then what does that say about rest of our players?
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Why does it have to say anything? Pogba should be able to be rightfully criticised for his performances even if he isn't surrounded by quality.
 
Mcking said:
Not suprised by how this thread have gone so far. It is so easy to pick on Pogba and scapegoat him.
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It's not scapegoating. It's seeing someone you know could be better not putting effort in all the time.
If he had the passion of Herrera and the drive of Sanchez on the pitch, he'd be some player. That's why people look at him for more.
 
Sayros said:
You would have a point if Pogba was the only one on the team being inconsistent. This is a team-wide issue, and again I go back to the fact that a lot of it has to do with the way the team is being set up week-to-week, with different line-ups, tactics, players playing out of position.

The logic doesn't make sense only when you think a player should be able to be consistently great despite all the obstacles mentioned above and a complete lack of continuity, with poor preparation on top of it. Again, if Pogba was the only one, you might have a point, but we all know better.
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Which one of our players were known to be consistent before ? Just thinking, and repeat "consistent" not " great". Can't think of anyone all honestly, bar De Gea and maybe Smalling.
 
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shamans said:
Then what does that say about rest of our players?
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The other players are getting their share of criticism in their thread. Pogba deserves criticism as much as them and anyone else in the club. I honestly don't get the "he's poor thanks to those surrounding him being poor" logic and putting it particularly to certain players. We can apply this logic to any player playing beside Pogba in midfield too. It doesn't work.

For a midfielder and especially a world class one, I expect 40-45 games a season with 7/10 performance with rising to 9/10 in some games and having few poor games. Pogba's problem is he has never brought himself to that level of concentration for a whole 12 months. He was the same at Juve, great but inconsistent. You know we have seen these kind of players many times (aka Nani except for 1 season). At this age he needs to start improving that.
 
el3mel said:
The other players are getting their share of criticism in their thread. Pogba deserves criticism as much as them and anyone else in the club. I honestly don't get the "he's poor thanks to those surrounding him being poor" logic and putting it particularly to certain players. We can apply this logic to any player playing beside Pogba in midfield too. It doesn't work.

For a midfielder and especially a world class one, I expect 40-45 games a season with 7/10 performance with rising to 9/10 in some games and having few poor games. Pogba's problem is he has never brought himself to that level of concentration for a whole 12 months. He was the same at Juve, great but inconsistent. You know we have seen these kind of players many times (aka Nani except for 1 season). At this age he needs to start improving that.
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Then I think you don't value the quality and class of Pogba because if you did then that logic makes a ton of sense and is applied all over world football. Yes Pogba deserves criticism but people are quick to forget he has been consistently one of our better players for a long time now. Check the stats with assists and goals. It only makes sense to make our best and consistent performer better not to mention the sheer quality he has.

And "any player" is not Paul Pogba. This guy is a dynamite ready to explode. We saw it in Juve, we saw it in France. He is not Modric or Scholes and can't dictate a team on his own. He needs quality around him to shine but it's not like he's been crap without quality.

I'm just tired of these lazy critics of Paul Pogba. He's going to make all of you eat your words. Hopefully he does it at Man United.
 
Dec9003 said:
Why does it have to say anything? Pogba should be able to be rightfully criticised for his performances even if he isn't surrounded by quality.
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Criticized yes. He's been trash as of late and before for periods too but to the extent that people are saying we should sell him and we don't need him is ridiculous. Also, to the extent his quality is being questioned.
 
shamans said:
Criticized yes. He's been trash as of late and before for periods too but to the extent that people are saying we should sell him and we don't need him is ridiculous. Also, to the extent his quality is being questioned.
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Apparently, Pogba is underperforming because he doesn't give a feck. What of the players that look like they do give a feck but are still underperforming?
 
shamans said:
Then I think you don't value the quality and class of Pogba because if you did then that logic makes a ton of sense and is applied all over world football. Yes Pogba deserves criticism but people are quick to forget he has been consistently one of our better players for a long time now. Check the stats with assists and goals. It only makes sense to make our best and consistent performer better not to mention the sheer quality he has.

And "any player" is not Paul Pogba. This guy is a dynamite ready to explode. We saw it in Juve, we saw it in France. He is not Modric or Scholes and can't dictate a team on his own. He needs quality around him to shine but it's not like he's been crap without quality.

I'm just tired of these lazy critics of Paul Pogba. He's going to make all of you eat your words. Hopefully he does it at Man United.
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No one questions his quality or that he's our best player on his day. We're talking about showing it 2 games a week for 12 months, which Pogba has struggling for ever since his Juve days. When he shows up he's unplayable, the problem is you never approach any game knowing which side of Pogba is going to show up. This is normal for young players but he's in his peak yeas now. He needs to force himself to level of concentration over the whole course of the season.
 
Jeppers7 said:
Or the manager setting his team out with a game plan
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Meh.. Possibly. Could be right.. I honestly don't know

I'm off to sleep, to try wake up and not try and have thoughts about ending it... United not playing is an added bonus tbf. Party time if we're all honest with ourselves.

Mourinho? Pogba? F**k them
 
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.Rossi said:
Meh.. Possibly. Could be right.. I honestly don't know

I'm off to sleep, to try wake up and not try and not have thoughts about ending it... United not playing is an added bonus tbf. Party time if we're all honest with ourselves.

Mourinho? Pogba? F**k them
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I'd agree there....neither has done anything worthy of the time wasted talking about them.
 
Jeppers7 said:
I'd agree there....neither has done anything worthy of the time wasted talking about them.
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No, they haven't!

So far, we can honestly say we have a washed up manager and either a vastly overrated mercenary or a world class mercenary and a board who really doesn't care.

I just hope De Gea is in form...
 
.Rossi said:
No, they haven't!

So far, we can honestly say we have a washed up manager and either a vastly overrated mercenary or a world class mercenary and a board who really doesn't care.

I just hope De Gea is in form...
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Pogba is the least of our problems.....let that sink in :wenger::lol:
 
.Rossi said:
No, they haven't!

So far, we can honestly say we have a washed up manager and either a vastly overrated mercenary or a world class mercenary and a board who really doesn't care.

I just hope De Gea is in form...
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:lol:
 
Coxy said:
Glazers stinginess?? You realise we’ve spent a fortune lately right?
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We’ve spent a normal amount for a club of our stature in this market. City have noticeably spent more... also people don’t factor in most of our top signing day being flops and many offloaded
 
RAVred said:
We’ve spent a normal amount for a club of our stature in this market. City have noticeably spent more... also people don’t factor in most of our top signing day being flops and many offloaded
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What people don’t understand is that it’s not just about the amount. It’s about the timing of those investments. What we’ve spent on is a lot but it’s a little late, so, it’s while player value has inflated and a little too late. Too much to fix.
 
.Rossi said:
No, they haven't!

So far, we can honestly say we have a washed up manager and either a vastly overrated mercenary or a world class mercenary and a board who really doesn't care.

I just hope De Gea is in form...
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Footballers are mercernaries by definition, they don't play for free
 
Posh Red said:
Definitely agree with this, and this is why if he moves to a really good team I think he will shine. We will be left regretting the transfer but ultimately it's right player wrong time.
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Pogba will never shine anywhere, because he is not a great player but just another good player with not enough effort or desire or maybe not just the right attitude.
 
Renegade said:
Quality player with amazing ability but ultimately I wouldn’t care less if he left. I hate the circus he brings. I don’t think his good enough to be the number 1 player in the team. Looks brilliant with a strong supporting cast/structure. There’s no shame in that, not every player can be that scruff of the neck difference maker.

I don’t think his the kind of a player a team in “transition” can accommodate or expect to change the team’s fortunes. Maybe similar to Ozil in that sense.
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Oh yeah. Because all the greats were constantly surrounded by shit. They had terrible managers and were the only star who had to single handedly dragged their teams to glory. That's usually how it works isn't it? That's why Messi, arguably the GOAT, has won everything with Argentina.

Great players play in great teams and win great trophies. You cannot expect one man to drag this absolute shit show to glory. The agenda posting on here is crazy.
 
Was playing FIFA 19, he's OP af in the game. It's just such a treat playing as him for United. His first touch, control, passing, shooting, strength, momentum, turns, skill moves. Just fecking class.

Went down the rabbit hole and started watching his Juventus videos (and his Zlatan link up in the first season). What a player he is and can be. It's so sad that we forget that while dealing with his and Mou's current drama. Under the right manager, he can be a Bugatti Veyron purring the side to victory with individual brilliance.

I'd love to see him flourish again, even if it's at another team. Players like him, on their day, make football a beautiful game.
 
If he could work on his performance that he's paid for, and not his social media or working on handshakes.... 89 million well spent here.
 
Howson says in his Liverpool preview that Pogba is the player trying to unite the squad and get people to play for the badge.
 
Renegade said:
Quality player with amazing ability but ultimately I wouldn’t care less if he left. I hate the circus he brings. I don’t think his good enough to be the number 1 player in the team. Looks brilliant with a strong supporting cast/structure. There’s no shame in that, not every player can be that scruff of the neck difference maker.

I don’t think his the kind of a player a team in “transition” can accommodate or expect to change the team’s fortunes. Maybe similar to Ozil in that sense.
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Only problem with that whole comparison is that Arsenal did have that difference maker in Sanchez - Top player in the league. The problem for them, and the one that remains for us is that the rest of the squad is just bad.
 
Did anyone expect him to start? Hopefully he gets on the pitch and will provide one or two moments of magic because the team could use some magic....
 
Gandalf Greyhame said:
Was playing FIFA 19, he's OP af in the game. It's just such a treat playing as him for United. His first touch, control, passing, shooting, strength, momentum, turns, skill moves. Just fecking class.

Went down the rabbit hole and started watching his Juventus videos (and his Zlatan link up in the first season). What a player he is and can be. It's so sad that we forget that while dealing with his and Mou's current drama. Under the right manager, he can be a Bugatti Veyron purring the side to victory with individual brilliance.

I'd love to see him flourish again, even if it's at another team. Players like him, on their day, make football a beautiful game.
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If only he could play with his existing set of teammates -- you know, pass the ball to them instead of to the other team.
 
Plenty good to start Euro, World Cup and Champions League finals on teams loaded with quality at every position. Somehow not good enough here. Absolutely. Baffling.
 
ForestRGoinUp said:
Plenty good to start Euro, World Cup and Champions League finals on teams loaded with quality at every position. Somehow not good enough here. Absolutely. Baffling.
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He doesn't fit into Jose park the bus tactics. It's that simple. We are here today to not get beat therefore there's no need to play creative midfielder like Pogba .
 
I wonder if less people buy into Mourinho’s nonsense that somehow we’re a better team without him after that. We could barely pass the ball.
 
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