I think we should be looking for better quality than Milner and Clyne. Firminho is a gamble at that price and not in a position we're crying out for.
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I think we should be looking for better quality than Milner and Clyne. Firminho is a gamble at that price and not in a position we're crying out for.
Why go for Firmino when we have already Di Maria + Mata + Depay in our squad ? 30M for a bench warmer ? No need
Firmino is not a striker, nor a winger or even less a number 10. So where does he play ? We already bought an exciting talent in Depay, no need to have a competitor.
Maybe he'll be their Suarez, but from what I saw he's not good enough
There aren't any really top class right backs around/available. Clyne wouldn't give us anything that we don't already have in Valencia/Rafael/Varela.
Spot on. We've got umpteen players who play in and around the front line. Signing him just gives Van Gaal another player to try and crow bar into the line up somewhere - rather than buying players who actually play in the positions we need to address. We need more round pegs in round holes.
And while I won't say he isn't any good, the times I've seen him playing for Brazil he hasn't looked anything special.
Exactly what people say about Thomas Muller - funny how Bayern and Germany always seem to find space for him.
Don't compare Muller with Firmino. one world class player and a little player playing for a small club
For the price, I'd say he's a good signing, though he wouldn't have been a massive improvement on what we have. Generally speaking though, I'm quite glad we're not taking the scattergun approach yet again this summer - didn't work very well for either us or Liverpool last time around, they seem to be keeping the same approach whilst we target quality instead.
Must say that Liverpool looks to be doing some good business. They probably overpaid for Firmino but are getting decent value for the other signings. Not only do most of them fit their needs, but they've done it relatively quickly, allowing them to integrate into the squad sooner than later. Granted, most squads aren't really getting up to speed yet, but it seems the big signings are taking longer than others, with the bigger clubs haggling and seeing who has the biggest dick. Of course, this really has been the course of things in the past, but sometimes I wish clubs/agents/players would just be more transparent/honest/upfront with their intentions & deal above board. I know everyone has competing interests which keeps these things more protracted than not, but it really behooves all to get things settled sooner than later. I'm sure no club wants to start a season without proper training and not knowing whether a player is coming or going.
and a tiny country?
To Liverpool at 17.5 million, if we wanted to sign him the price would have been 30 million
He is Liverpool material, not for us because he is not, and will never be, better than Rafael or Valencia, he is more or less the same thing.
He's so average its untrue.
I'd probably cry if we signed him as our first choice right back.
I'd probably cry if we signed him as our first choice right back.
We can't sign everyone and other clubs have always and will always sign players, even good ones.
Milner is not a miss for us. Clyne obviously we did not rate. Firmino it seems was never a target for us. So of course they were going to someone else.
I think last summer there was a time when some got worried about all the business Liverpool was doing.
Muller is one of the best players in the world. Firmino is not.
Too true. He might turn out very well for them but the truth is we have no room for him right now.
If we'd signed Milner and Clyne, this place would have imploded. And not in a good way.
Clyne is a good player and definitely a better right back than Valencia. He's not average. The price for him is also very reasonable. Perhaps we've missed a trick here because if our starting right back next year is still Valencia, I'll gouge my eyes out. I just hope we can bring someone in before the window closes.
I think 12.5m for him is a great deal. Even if we bought him at that price as back up it wouldn't be too bad, its not a great deal of money in all honesty and would still get a decent amount resale wise. Id rather have clyne then valencia and rafael, but I don't think he's a world class player or ever will be one. He's just another glen johnson type player but good business still i think.
Don't care about him moving to Liverpool.
IMO clyne isn't better than Valencia, especially defensively. He can probably cross better than Valencia but he's not worth paying 15m for. I would rather keep rafael than sign him.
It's simple, he's an attacking midfielder, either he will play as a 10 or as an inside winger like any other attacking midfielder would. I don't know how Muller wouldn't be described as a 10
Onto Coleman the caf goes.
Thats debatable as I think potentially he'll prob improve how much we'll just have to wait and see. Don't see Valencia improving just carry on as is. For Liverpool who dont have our right back options its great business. They Sell Sterling for 50m and get Ings, Firmino, Clyne, Milner so far and still some change..I'd swap Sterling for that group I reckon too.
Good signing this for liverpool good price developed player looked good last year. In a position they need filling.
Classic liverpool signings so far, reasonable players all could do really well all could fail. I think Clyne has best chance of being the player they want him to be.
Classic liverpool signings so far, reasonable players all could do really well all could fail. I think Clyne has best chance of being the player they want him to be.
They're having a class transfer window so far. Clyne has been very good and is worth a chance to make the step up and even if he doesn't there is no world class right backs who are available at the moment. If he doesn't reach the level they want he makes a top rotational option anyhow.
Hard to go wrong with that signing for that price.
Hard to go wrong with that signing for that price.
I won't lose sleep over their signings. Clyne is a good signing but Milner is average and Firminho is a big gamble as others have said. Liverpool will be Liverpool next season. Bottlers and laughing stock.
Shaw has been very good when he's played, just his injuries which have been disappointing. He's miles better than fecking Clyne, only a Liverpool fan would argue otherwise. Clyne is bang average, hence the reason you'll get him unopposed for a bang average price.
I think many have said of how Clyne had been exposed during various parts of the season, probably not the signing we need for LVG. He's good but I trust that we'll find someone better (has that ever happened?).
Shaw has been average when I have seen him, and given you lot paid £30m plus hardly value for money!
Clyne is one of the best young prospects in the league - and given we are into 42 pages on here, it's odd everyone suddenly thinks he is crap.
He isn't tied to a long term contract hence the price.
Shaw has been fantastic every time he's played this season. He'll prove value for money over time, of that I have no doubt. He's genuinely miles better then Clyne.
Good signing for that price, the word is 'good' not great. I really think he's over hyped, I have wanted Seamus Coleman for ages. Maybe I'm biased because he lives in the same county as me but he's quality(supports united too). He had an average season by his standards but he's been class the last few years. Man united have had some quality Irish players in the past, maybe he's the next
. I think Clyne is an exciting prospect but it's a big step up expectation wise, look how Shaw dealt with the step up and he's a far better footballer. Seamus Coleman is the perfect age to come in to our team. To be fair to Liverpool they are having a good transfer window so far.
. I think Clyne is an exciting prospect but it's a big step up expectation wise, look how Shaw dealt with the step up and he's a far better footballer. Seamus Coleman is the perfect age to come in to our team. To be fair to Liverpool they are having a good transfer window so far.Clyne is like Glen Johnson. Good going forward but against good opposition can be found out defensively.
If you felt Shaw was average...well you'll have a lot of fun watching Clyne.
He's already 24 while Shaw is still a teenager.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...niel-clyne-i-want-to-play-in-champions-league
Looks like another player craving for Champions League but not interesting enough for bigger firms.
Looks like another player craving for Champions League but not interesting enough for bigger firms.
Good signing for liverpool, I did think we might be in for him given the price. I thought he would be our backup for Alves but hopefully we have someone else in mind.
Not a bad player but not one I'm unhappy to see go to Liverpool.
In keeping with their summer business really. Not terrible but not something that worries me either. I'm judging it this way, if we'd have done the business they've done this summer, I'd have been disappointed with our work.
In keeping with their summer business really. Not terrible but not something that worries me either. I'm judging it this way, if we'd have done the business they've done this summer, I'd have been disappointed with our work.
Weren't we being linked with him for much higher fees?
Not fussed. He looks decent but we should be looking to do better. He looks nowhere near as good as what we hoped Rafael would become, or how good he was when he was fit and firing. That's the sort of right back we need, at least.
Not fussed. He looks decent but we should be looking to do better. He looks nowhere near as good as what we hoped Rafael would become, or how good he was when he was fit and firing. That's the sort of right back we need, at least.
Ouch.
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