Mo Salah

Salah works his ass off when they are not is possession and he's clever with his CONSTANT movement when they are attacking.

He gives opposition defenders decisions to make.

None of our players do that.
Tbf ALL of liverpool's players do that. That's down as much to the manager
 
Yeah anyone who watched him in Serie A first with Fiorentina then Roma will not be particularly surprised at what he's doing this season.
I did and i am. Dunno if it's down to liverpool being perfect for him or if he actually went up a notch individually. Either way, i expected him to be great for them, but not this.

Although, he looked like an UFO in the first months at fiorentina too, before falling back to earth and turning into "merely" a very good player. That might also be the case here
 
Don't think it's fine tuning. Maybe he simply wasn't at the level he is playing now that he was 3-4 years ago.

Great player and you can be happy to have him.

Of course he wasnt. Just like Rashford and Martial arent at the level we want them to be at eventually. But we believe enough in them to play them in the team. Thats what these former Chelsea players needed. It could have been at Chelsea, they did play some young attacking players in Hazard, Oscar and Willian but some of their picks were better than others. Hazard? Without a doubt. The rest? Not so much
 
Although, he looked like an UFO in the first months at fiorentina too, before falling back to earth and turning into "merely" a very good player. That might also be the case here

I wouldn't be surprised with that to be honest. Teams are all focusing on Coutinho and Mane so much that they haven't given real thought to a Chelsea reject yet. When they start studying his patterns in detail his performances may plateau.
 
I wouldn't be surprised with that to be honest. Teams are all focusing on Coutinho and Mane so much that they haven't given real thought to a Chelsea reject yet. When they start studying his patterns in detail his performances may plateau.
Yeah I think they will. Which is totally normal. No winger sustains a 1:1 goal/assist ratio unless they’re named Cristiano Ronaldo or Lionel Messi. He could - and probably will - put up Alexis Sanchez type of numbers like last year. Salah is currently 10 goals and 2 assists, Alexis Sanchez ended last year on 24 goals and 10 assists. Something around that ballpark will be an excellent season for Salah.
 
Yeah I think they will. Which is totally normal. No winger sustains a 1:1 goal/assist ratio unless they’re named Cristiano Ronaldo or Lionel Messi. He could - and probably will - put up Alexis Sanchez type of numbers like last year. Salah is currently 10 goals and 2 assists, Alexis Sanchez ended last year on 24 goals and 10 assists. Something around that ballpark will be an excellent season for Salah.

Figures like that will be excellent for our top four hopes let alone his own personal landmarks. However, what I should have continued to mention about special attention being paid on him is that Coutinho and Mane will then be released from their extra scrutiny. Thus their goals/assists tallies will go up second part of this season. That's my hope/prediction anyway. After all you can't give every player extreme special attention, something has to give.
 
I didn't expect Salah to be this influential tbh. His off the ball movement is top notch.
 
We are better than Liverpool, but with a few decent signings they would be better on paper. I always try to deny it, but it is what it is. Keita, Coutinho, Salah, Mane.... imagine them getting Aubameyang up top instead of no-goal Firmino. Could be scary, let’s just hope Klopp fails to get any good players and that they miss out on top 4 and have to play Europa League.
 
We are better than Liverpool, but with a few decent signings they would be better on paper. I always try to deny it, but it is what it is. Keita, Coutinho, Salah, Mane.... imagine them getting Aubameyang up top instead of no-goal Firmino. Could be scary, let’s just hope Klopp fails to get any good players and that they miss out on top 4 and have to play Europa League.


Firmino makes Mane, Salah, Coutinho and co play better.

If they improve their defence, they could be serious title challengers with the attack they have.
 
We are better than Liverpool, but with a few decent signings they would be better on paper. I always try to deny it, but it is what it is. Keita, Coutinho, Salah, Mane.... imagine them getting Aubameyang up top instead of no-goal Firmino. Could be scary, let’s just hope Klopp fails to get any good players and that they miss out on top 4 and have to play Europa League.
Liverpool's only current weakness is their defense. If they get a Van Dijk IMO they'd be complete.
 
Ken Early: Mohamed Salah is not a truly great winger
He’s not a winger at all – football terminology needs to catch up with changes in the game

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/so...d-salah-is-not-a-truly-great-winger-1.3306153

Totally agree with the assessment, I think Salah is overrated by many here.
Great read indeed.
If the coaches were more audacious many could swift to 3 at back, using wingers as wing backs plus players like Salah in the front three.
 
Liverpool's only current weakness is their defense. If they get a Van Dijk IMO they'd be complete.

I disagree. One player in their defence might make a difference, but their problem is actually tactical. They seem to just keep attacking all the time. Merson said that at half time against Seville, he said they would draw 3-3 because they wont defend. They will just keep attacking. They will just keep throwing their full backs forward at every opportunity. There whole system is flawed, not just their defenders. They need to change 1-11 not just their back four. So buying one defender, wont be enough. Still better than Lovren though.
 
I disagree. One player in their defence might make a difference, but their problem is actually tactical. They seem to just keep attacking all the time. Merson said that at half time against Seville, he said they would draw 3-3 because they wont defend. They will just keep attacking. They will just keep throwing their full backs forward at every opportunity. There whole system is flawed, not just their defenders. They need to change 1-11 not just their back four. So buying one defender, wont be enough. Still better than Lovren though.
Its simple. When you have a tactical set up based on attacking all the time, you sign a center half who can organize his defence and who can also hold fort almost alone as his fullbacks always bomb forward, ala Stam. Van Dijk fits the bill. The other half of the equation is signing a player of Naby Keita's qualities. They already have that down.....
 
Its simple. When you have a tactical set up based on attacking all the time, you sign a center half who can organize his defence and who can also hold fort almost alone as his fullbacks always bomb forward, ala Stam. Van Dijk fits the bill. The other half of the equation is signing a player of Naby Keita's qualities. They already have that down.....
Also a top Goalkeeper is needed imo then the team is complete
 
I don't think he gets much extra credit for being a winger. His play and output is excellent regardless of what category you put him in.
True, he's producing numbers not seen for a player that's not a primary striker since Bale in this league. Nothing new about that article, even Best wasn't a winger.
 
Good for Liverpool , but none of top clubs would take him as a first team to be honest.

How long will he keep his form remains to be seen.
 
We are better than Liverpool, but with a few decent signings they would be better on paper. I always try to deny it, but it is what it is. Keita, Coutinho, Salah, Mane.... imagine them getting Aubameyang up top instead of no-goal Firmino. Could be scary, let’s just hope Klopp fails to get any good players and that they miss out on top 4 and have to play Europa League.
Man, I'm not looking forward to all the whining when AFCON comes around and Keita, Mané and Salah all bugger off for a month (if they're all still there come 2019).
 
Man, I'm not looking forward to all the whining when AFCON comes around and Keita, Mané and Salah all bugger off for a month (if they're all still there come 2019).

AFCON will no longer be played in Jan/Feb.
 
Funny, I bet these people heralding Salah as the incredible are the same folk that wanted us to sign Vardy because he had a good half a season or so!!
If you want to talk stats, Martial has a goal in the league every 89 minutes, imagine if Jose actually trusted him to play a full game every now and then!!
The fact is Salah is playing well and has slotted right in to an attacking team, the tactics suit his play currently, but he's never scored more than 20 goals in a season (so far).
Is he better than what we have? Nope, on current form yes, but he's no better than Martial/Rashford.

Haha he is comfortably better than those two, United fans like you are living in la la land by failing to give credit to other players with talent just so you can keep your mind assured that we have the best players in the league.
 
Good for Liverpool , but none of top clubs would take him as a first team to be honest.

How long will he keep his form remains to be seen.

Yeah, nobody wants the top goalscorer in the league. This isn't really a fluke season, he was a prolific goalscorer in Italy too. In Italy he wasn't the main man, at Liverpool he is.
 
Yeah, nobody wants the top goalscorer in the league. This isn't really a fluke season, he was a prolific goalscorer in Italy too. In Italy he wasn't the main man, at Liverpool he is.

Riyad maharez situation.
 
Riyad maharez situation.

Riyad Mahrez had one great season in one league. Salah has had 2 great seasons in Italy and is now continuing that form in the UK, all the while being younger than Mahrez. More like a Harry Kane situation (people for whatever reason doubting him).
 
Riyad Mahrez had one great season in one league. Salah has had 2 great seasons in Italy and is now continuing that form in the UK, all the while being younger than Mahrez. More like a Harry Kane situation (people for whatever reason doubting him).

Mahrez is still a top quality player, put Martial in Leicesters team see what stats he puts up.
 
Mahrez is still a top quality player, put Martial in Leicesters team see what stats he puts up.

I think he's pretty good, not top quality though. Hasn't got the right mentality at the moment to be one I think.
 
I think he's pretty good, not top quality though. Hasn't got the right mentality at the moment to be one I think.

How many goals and assists he gets in big games this season? Against city , Chelsea , arsenal , Tottenham? Sevilla? United?
 
I wouldn't be surprised with that to be honest. Teams are all focusing on Coutinho and Mane so much that they haven't given real thought to a Chelsea reject yet. When they start studying his patterns in detail his performances may plateau.
Seriously ? You think any manager worth his salt doesn't already ? It's not like he's done nothing all season and then hit back to back hat tricks, he's been top notch from the word go. No manager is going to neglect 'studying his patterns', stopping im in a system like ours, where he has a licence to rove, is something else.
 
Seriously ? You think any manager worth his salt doesn't already ? It's not like he's done nothing all season and then hit back to back hat tricks, he's been top notch from the word go. No manager is going to neglect 'studying his patterns', stopping im in a system like ours, where he has a licence to rove, is something else.

This is premier league managers you're talking about. You're giving them faaaar too much credit. Until a majority of them haven't read what a player can do on the back pages of a tabloid or watched it in detail on Monday Night Football then no, they won't be adjusting as fast you think. They know Salah is a threat but its not priority number one for them in their video sessions or training. Pattern finding and then adjusting your players/tactics takes time and requires all your attention. Most managers don't have one let alone both straight away. It will be far easier for them to hope the player is just going through a purple patch so they can absolve themselves.
 
He seems a winger striker. The term got more emphasis since the days of ronaldo and messi. It appears the players play two roles in one and score a lot of goals.
But for example Players like Giggs cannot be called winger striker but just a winger.
 
Its simple. When you have a tactical set up based on attacking all the time, you sign a center half who can organize his defence and who can also hold fort almost alone as his fullbacks always bomb forward, ala Stam. Van Dijk fits the bill. The other half of the equation is signing a player of Naby Keita's qualities. They already have that down.....

Since when did Van Dijk become a one-man defence? He's not even one of the top defenders in the PL, let alone capable of holding together Liverpool's mess of a defence all by himself.

Keita is a great signing however. A truly rounded MF who should be able to press all day and can provide quick pinpoint forward passes on the counter to Salah and co.

I agree with the initial poster that they have a problem tactically, the Sevilla game highlighted that. They should have dropped deeper, become more compact and retained possession and taken the pace out of the game, instead they carried on trying to play direct counter acting football and continually lost the ball and invited pressure.

No 1 or 2 signings will make up for Klopp's lack of tactical adaptability.
 
Haha he is comfortably better than those two, United fans like you are living in la la land by failing to give credit to other players with talent just so you can keep your mind assured that we have the best players in the league.
Feel vindicated now, and it feels good.
 
This is premier league managers you're talking about. You're giving them faaaar too much credit. Until a majority of them haven't read what a player can do on the back pages of a tabloid or watched it in detail on Monday Night Football then no, they won't be adjusting as fast you think. They know Salah is a threat but its not priority number one for them in their video sessions or training. Pattern finding and then adjusting your players/tactics takes time and requires all your attention. Most managers don't have one let alone both straight away. It will be far easier for them to hope the player is just going through a purple patch so they can absolve themselves.
Hahaha that's a really low opinion of them - though maybe it's easy to see why
 
Feel vindicated now, and it feels good.

Ahahahaha:lol::lol:by what??? I always said Martial is a good young player just not as good as Salah yet IMO! A goal against here and there doesnt change that. I suppose Lingard is the next Messi now for you lot:wenger:
 
This is premier league managers you're talking about. You're giving them faaaar too much credit. Until a majority of them haven't read what a player can do on the back pages of a tabloid or watched it in detail on Monday Night Football then no, they won't be adjusting as fast you think. They know Salah is a threat but its not priority number one for them in their video sessions or training. Pattern finding and then adjusting your players/tactics takes time and requires all your attention. Most managers don't have one let alone both straight away. It will be far easier for them to hope the player is just going through a purple patch so they can absolve themselves.
:lol: your post made me laugh but I agree with it completely.
 
Liverpool's only current weakness is their defense. If they get a Van Dijk IMO they'd be complete.


In order for Jürgen Klopp's high pressing system to work you need a defensive midfielder that can cover a lot of ground and erases the mistakes in the build-up if they occur. The reason it worked at Dortmund is because of Sebastian Kehl and Sven Bender. Both Can and Henderson are downgrades to what he had at Dortmund.

Keita might remedy that tho