Mo Salah

B20 said:
I imagine something similar. He'll get less headlines, but it might be for the betterment of the team. We really need to spread out our goals. Once you move past our front 3, the goals in the team drops like a cliff.
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But its how Klopp has set up the team to be fair. With a center midfield of box to box battlers. IMO he should build a back up three upfront that is just almost as potent as the starting three in terms of scoring.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
But its how Klopp has set up the team to be fair. With a center midfield of box to box battlers. IMO he should build a back up three upfront that is just almost as potent as the starting three in terms of scoring.
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I think we are aiming for the front four positions to be taken up by something like Salah/Firmino/Mane, and someone like Fekir(?) in the advanced midfield. And then have Chamberlain and Lallana as first rotators in for the front four. With Ings and youngsters taking up spots 7 and 8 for those four positions. Maybe Origi will make a return, though I'd be surprised. He's better than the likes of Ings and Solanke though. But we need to find a balance between making sure we have enough quality up front to keep going and also having slots open so that youngsters like Woodburn, Brewster and Wilson don't get squeezed out. If we're serious about youth, these guys need the space.

Hopefully someone like Keita will add more goals than we've seen from Wijnaldum and Hendo. Can was the only midfielder who really chipped in with goals at a ok rate from midfield.

Might be asking a lot for a kid, but someone like TAA should also be looking to add more goals. He's got 3 so far which isn't bad for a fullback, but he could be doing more with his right foot.
 
Did Liverpool win the League and I didnt realise it? How does a team get to 100 points and all the papers are talking about Liverpool?
 
I imagine, should Liverpool win the CL, Salah will be regarded as the best Liverpool player ever. Whilst they've had some fabulous players in their history, no single player has ever elevated them to a CL win (Gerrard may have been the catalyst for Istanbul) and considering it's his debut season, that would be legendary.

Now they just have to win the CL, which is easier said than done.
 
B20 said:
I think we are aiming for the front four positions to be taken up by something like Salah/Firmino/Mane, and someone like Fekir(?) in the advanced midfield. And then have Chamberlain and Lallana as first rotators in for the front four. With Ings and youngsters taking up spots 7 and 8 for those four positions. Maybe Origi will make a return, though I'd be surprised. He's better than the likes of Ings and Solanke though. But we need to find a balance between making sure we have enough quality up front to keep going and also having slots open so that youngsters like Woodburn, Brewster and Wilson don't get squeezed out. If we're serious about youth, these guys need the space.

Hopefully someone like Keita will add more goals than we've seen from Wijnaldum and Hendo. Can was the only midfielder who really chipped in with goals at a ok rate from midfield.

Might be asking a lot for a kid, but someone like TAA should also be looking to add more goals. He's got 3 so far which isn't bad for a fullback, but he could be doing more with his right foot.
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The Ings story is sad. If it wasnt for them injuries, I believe he would have become as effective as a Vardy under Klopp's tutelage

As for TAA, as long as he is used at fullback, goals really shouldn't be asked of him. Wijnauldum is the one guy who more goals should be demanded. He has been way too conservative in a Liverpool shirt.
 
giorno said:
Because they spent that money to sign darmian, blind, mhkitaryan, schneiderlin, fellaini, broken and finished schweinsteiger, do i have to keep going? Having more money to spend is no guarantee of a better team. Atletico Madrid and Juventus have had better teams than anyone in England for years while working on a fraction of the budget
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I understand and agree with your view point but my question was in relation to his argument " Premier league is weaker now than it was during Ronaldo days." It's easier to win a weak ( one or two horse leagues) because if you ensure you don't lose against the main contender and match their performance against other teams you have a strong chance of winning the league whereas if there are 5-6 strong teams in the league, even if you ensure you don't lose to 5 contenders you will end up very short of the points needed to win the title even if you win all your games against other teams in the league. Dortmund, athletico and all of the Jose's teams are perfect example of this approach.

crossy1686 said:
Because City's fan base isn't big enough to sell papers. Write a headline about United or Liverpool though and you're laughing.
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If you don't have news, make one. Like "Sadio Mane out of champions league due an injury." We had few days back. Sometimes on slow days they can come up with gems like "Felliani to Liverpool."
 
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RedMane said:
I understand and agree with your view point but my question was in relation to his argument " Premier league is weaker now than it was during Ronaldo days." It's easier to win a weak ( one or two horse leagues) because if you ensure you don't lose against the main contender and match their performance against other teams you have a strong chance of winning the league whereas if there are 5-6 strong teams in the league, even if you ensure you don't lose to 5 contenders you will end up very short of the points needed to win the title even if you win all your games against other teams in the league. Dortmund, athletico and all of the Jose's teams are perfect example of this approach.
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There were 4 great teams in the league in 2007/08 though, it wasn't a two horse race at all. 3 english teams made the CL semis and it could have been 4 if Liverpool and Arsenal hadn't drawn eachother in the quarters.

Back then the Premier League had the best teams in the world and it was stronger from top to bottom even if they didn't spend as much money.
 
City winning the league was obvious during the Winter , so now the more interesting is the CL final .

If Real wins it , it would be devastating for Liverpool and I would make an offer for Firmino .
 
Injured in Champions League final
Was it even the ramos challenge that inured him?

Edit- my apologies yes it was
 
hope he makes it to the world cup.

Rio said he would be out if its a dislocated shoulder, but I always thought those things tend to heal pretty quickly? You should be able to play on it after a couple weeks rest?
 
Admist all the hilarity I really feel for the guy. He so much deserves to play in the World Cup after the season he's had. Hope he can somehow make it.
 
DevilRed said:
hope he makes it to the world cup.

Rio said he would be out if its a dislocated shoulder, but I always thought those things tend to heal pretty quickly? You should be able to play on it after a couple weeks rest?
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I think he will. And think Egypt will face Spain in last 16. Tasty
 
DevilRed said:
hope he makes it to the world cup.

Rio said he would be out if its a dislocated shoulder, but I always thought those things tend to heal pretty quickly? You should be able to play on it after a couple weeks rest?
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I am certainly not a doctor, but I think it depends on the ligament damage. Marcelo had a shoulder injury, the physios popped it back in, and he was back to his usual self. This looks serious though
 
Hope he recovers for the sake of not just himself but the whole of Egypt, would really be a shame if he didn’t get to play after the season he’s had
 
Hope he recover for the WC. Great players missing WC is a bitch. Not really positive though if the dislocated shoulder suspect is true. Even with the top medical treatment, the cases we know it took months to heal.
 
Will be annoying if he misses out. There's been some great Egyptian players over the years like Ahmed Hassan, Aboutreika, Abd-Rabo etc. who did great for Egypt in the Nations Cup but never got the chance to show their ability on the biggest stage. Hopefully Salah isn't another one of those.
 
All of Egypt must hate Ramos right now...
 
I would be very surprised if he makes the World Cup. He was crying because that was his concern, not this final.
 
Aboutreika18 said:
Will be annoying if he misses out. There's been some great Egyptian players over the years like Ahmed Hassan, Aboutreika, Abd-Rabo etc. who did great for Egypt in the Nations Cup but never got the chance to show their ability on the biggest stage. Hopefully Salah isn't another one of those.
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True. It's a huge shame when he's in this sweet spot of his career as well.
 
Hope he makes the WC. Glad he sat out the CL final for Liverpool but he seems like a genuinely nice bloke and it would be sad for him to miss that.
 
Egypt NT doctor is saying now the injury will be only for 3 weeks max and he has a chance to play in WC. Finger crossed it turns out to be right.
 
Really hope he can recover for the WC.
 
No expert, but the angle his arm was underneath Ramos would make a break quite possible.
 
el3mel said:
Egypt NT doctor is saying now the injury will be only for 3 weeks max and he has a chance to play in WC. Finger crossed it turns out to be right.
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Sounds like wishful thinking to me. Any other doctor would not make such claims immediately without some scans first but obviously the Egyptian NT doctor has to qualm some fears now.

We've been hearing the same thing about Gylfi and Aron Einar for weeks now but I don't know anyone that thinks that they'll be ready in a few weeks.

We can only hope that the examination that he's probably going to right turns out well. Was really hoping to see Egypt win that group.
 
Snow said:
Sounds like wishful thinking to me. Any other doctor would not make such claims immediately without some scans first but obviously the Egyptian NT doctor has to qualm some fears now.

We've been hearing the same thing about Gylfi and Aron Einar for weeks now but I don't know anyone that thinks that they'll be ready in a few weeks.

We can only hope that the examination that he's probably going to right turns out well. Was really hoping to see Egypt win that group.
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He said that he's in contact with Liverpool medical stuff not that he made it from the scene. They should have already done some X-ray at least by now and are starting to determine the extent of injury so it seems logical the NT doctor will contact them and ask for the X-ray results.
 
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