Mikel Arteta | Lego Pep watch

I’ve always wondered this. Not only do clubs count Super Cups, but players do too. All ‘most decorated player’ lists include Super Cups in the totals.

I’m with Klopp, if it doesn’t matter, why play it? Time with the squad ahead of the league campaign is precious.
and arteta’s really used that to his advantage.
 
You’re right, there. Although, last I checked, you don’t have to have won anything in the previous season to win the League Cup, FA Cup, Premier League or Champions League.

I also agree that Arteta was probably joking.

No issues with anything you’ve said, but it didn’t really have much relevance to the my post that you replied to.

To answer your question then, why play it if it doesn’t matter, because the FA have put it on the calendar as a season curtain raiser. Don’t think there’s more to it than that. Thats the extent to which it matters.
 
First team to score the most 5 or more away goals in a year away from home, pretty impressed considering how being bullied away from home was our trademark for 20 years. Only if we hadn't been dropping unacceptable points at home so many times.
 
First team to score the most 5 or more away goals in a year away from home, pretty impressed considering how being bullied away from home was our trademark for 20 years. Only if we hadn't been dropping unacceptable points at home so many times.

Another fine trophy to stick in the cabinet.
 
Arsenal good at beating teams when the pressure is off them.
You're right, especially last year when we won something like 18/20 last games and lost the title by 2 points. 2 points was an insurmountable amount and an impossible hurdle to cross, so we took it easy. With Liverpool having to play all of the top teams away from home (unlike us), you're completely right, no pressure in any way.
 
You're right, especially last year when we won something like 18/20 last games and lost the title by 2 points. 2 points was an insurmountable amount and an impossible hurdle to cross, so we took it easy. With Liverpool having to play all of the top teams away from home (unlike us), you're completely right, no pressure in any way.
This mentality is why you’re the second most successful club in London
 
First team to score the most 5 or more away goals in a year away from home, pretty impressed considering how being bullied away from home was our trademark for 20 years. Only if we hadn't been dropping unacceptable points at home so many times.

Statistical champions

Just to add another one.....




I did read 78 of them were from set pieces though.
 
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"88 goals in 2024!"
 
Chelsea only got to where they due to the financial lottery of corrupt Russian oil money.

Arsenal are a proper club unlike mid table Chelsea before Roman arrived.
Yup totally agreed. I would argue they probably cost United more titles too. They were spending almost £250 million in 2005.....in 2005 under Jose, that amount is insane even today never mind those days.

Arsenal and Utd's spending those few years in comparison was less than £50 million. We tallied off those years due to Chelsea's emergence on back of gangster money and then City coming in and stripping our squad. As for Utd, United would have that entire decade from 2004 till 13 where they would have likely won a title almost every year had it not been for oligarch and then oil money.

People will point out and say but this rule and that rule wasn't in place when Chelsea came, they showed City the model to cheat away. Come in blow money and find a quick fire way to win a title.
 
Fascinating that some United fans prop up City and Chelsea who are both about as corrupt as they come. And when they win...they just say ...oh well they arr supposed to.

People were making fun of Chelsea repeatedly until this season I knew they were becoming better and had them actually finishing in the third. But that doesnt mean i give them a whole of kudos for what they are doing.

It's like starting 20 businesses, throwing a billions of dollars at it and then saying wow did we ever succeed with the last one
 
Fascinating that some United fans prop up City and Chelsea who are both about as corrupt as they come. And when they win...they just say ...oh well they arr supposed to.

People were making fun of Chelsea repeatedly until this season I knew they were becoming better and had them actually finishing in the third. But that doesnt mean i give them a whole of kudos for what they are doing.

It's like starting 20 businesses, throwing a billions of dollars at it and then saying wow did we ever succeed with the last one

I suppose if we wait 100 years we can only hope to be as legitimate as Arsenal.
 
I suppose if we wait 100 years we can only hope to be as legitimate as Arsenal.
Well the last spending spree under Boehly was ridiculous, even most Chelsea fans I suspect would agree. Chelsea was already an established club....I would make the argument that it was that already before Abramovich came to town. It did not need to do this kind of spending at either time to compete for top honours.

I am not giving Chelsea any recognition for getting there. In the end that doesn't matter, as people remember trophies and success, but as a fan of the game....just like with City... nope. Your team is playing some decent football at the moment unlike during Abramovich times, it's making a little harder to naturally dislike.
 

We need to cut this out. A lot of these have come when we only have a slender lead and we’re slowing the game down to our detriment. Plus the obvious downside of being on a booking.

And many times, like today, it’s obvious where the line is and there’s zero need to go over it.