Mikel Arteta | Lego Pep watch

A completely new team compared to the one he inherited. He’s still learning on the job, I’ll give you that - but he’s implemented a good play style mixed in with likeable characters in the squad.

he’s also facilitated the improvements within the stadium and the crowd to great effect. The fans are more vocal than ever.

however I don’t think he’s great at squad rotation. The queen hitting par for the course has helped massively and was a much needed break as it felt like part of the squad was overplayed. he doesn’t utilise 5 subs either.
 
I'm sure they'd have been satisfied with top four this season and they're already 8 points ahead of fourth and playing well.

A lot of the thing ETH will need to do to improve us, Arteta has done for Arsenal.
 
With all the bullying fans give Maguire - it’s quite crazy how many things fans get wrong as well.

Arteta was ridiculed here for ages and is now proving a lot of us wrong.

do you expect Maguire to prove everyone wrong?
 
Marco Silva has got Fulham flying in 5th place, lookse like people here got that wrong as well as he's a pretty good manager after all.
 
He's getting by and winning, I think he can at least get top 4 which was probably the goal all along.

I foresee them going off the boil but they may be able to ride this good form train until the world cup which should be enough to secure top 4 barring a big 2023 collapse.
 
A game every three / four days until part of November
Really interested to see how he manages through that period

He's defo suited to one game a week and think that has helped the starting line up so far.

They can get through europa league just playing their B team so can't see the issue. Man. City game also been re-arranged which was due to be middle of October so it's not that bad a run of games, think they'll get something off Liverpool and end their really poor recent run v them.
 
They have a very good first XI now with few weaknesses. Barring injuries I'd be surprised if they don't finish top 3.
 
People don’t give him credit, cause they backed Ole hard over him. He is a good manager. Was clear from the start that he had a plan.

It took him 3 years to get to this point with a lack of pressure almost no other manager in the world at a top club would have had. It would also be a lie to say almost anybody outside the club thought he'd be a success after so many dips in form and patchy performances

Yes, it's great what he is doing now but it was never 'obvious' even before this season started
 
A completely new team compared to the one he inherited. He’s still learning on the job, I’ll give you that - but he’s implemented a good play style mixed in with likeable characters in the squad.

he’s also facilitated the improvements within the stadium and the crowd to great effect. The fans are more vocal than ever.

however I don’t think he’s great at squad rotation. The queen hitting par for the course has helped massively and was a much needed break as it felt like part of the squad was overplayed. he doesn’t utilise 5 subs either.

Well he did today, didn’t he? I think the squad depth isn’t quite there yet, I don’t think you would have gotten the same results whilst heavily rotating.

It has to be said the squad is extremely young, Xhaka the only player over 29 out there and everyone else bar Thomas being 25 or younger.

Bodes well for the future. If Arsenal can keep their star players and they age together they should form a great understanding. Already starting to show now and should be expected to get better.

As they don’t need any big changes they can buy some few luxury signings to add experience at the back and in midfield. They seem on a good path.

Now for it to all come crumbling down after Christmas with injuries exposing the bench and Saka letting Lego-Pep know he wants a play for the real Pep after the summer.
 
A game every three / four days until part of November
Really interested to see how he manages through that period

He's defo suited to one game a week and think that has helped the starting line up so far.

That's a good point. One or two injuries to key players and they would suffer.

Credit where it's due though, he has done a great and did well in getting rid of Ozil etc.
 
Good win, fully expect us to be 4th by the end of the month though. Still too brittle and the best teams will make us pay (Tottenham are a woeful team but their attack being the only thing keeping them afloat nearly did catch us out a few times)

That said, we're playing some really good football and I'm enjoying watching us after years, so can't really complain.

This start should make 4th spot increasingly a non-negotiable.
 
Happy to beat Spurs, happy with how we're performing, but hopefully there's not too many getting carried away.

We're still prone to rashness and brain farts in defence mainly from Gabriel, we need to cut those out. Still think we are short in a couple if vital areas. Liverpool next league game will be a big test as well, let's see if we've got past our inferiority complex of them, thats another hurdle we need to show we can overcome.
 
Good win, fully expect us to be 4th by the end of the month though. Still too brittle and the best teams will make us pay (Tottenham are a woeful team but their attack being the only thing keeping them afloat nearly did catch us out a few times)

That said, we're playing some really good football and I'm enjoying watching us after years, so can't really complain.

This start should make 4th spot increasingly a non-negotiable.

I think it's possible for you to be first by the start of November. No matter what the best way to build is from a foundation, Arsenal have that in their performances. For me performances wise you've been the best team in the league this season. All that's required is consistency.
 
Game management is still a big issue that needs to be resolved. Time and time again they allowed 2v2 & 3v3 possibilities when they were in front. A better team, or even this Spurs team on a day when they dont screw up EVERY final ball, will expose that in the same way that United did.

Having said that the positives far outweighs the negatives. It was clear last season that something was developing and they've stepped forward again. Absolutely nailed on top four, but for me they'll be exposed by a wily European team, or United, in the Europa.
 
Much as it pains me to admit they look the best in the league consistency wise since 2008
 
We're still prone to rashness and brain farts in defence mainly from Gabriel, we need to cut those out. Still think we are short in a couple if vital areas. Liverpool next league game will be a big test as well, let's see if we've got past our inferiority complex of them, thats another hurdle we need to show we can overcome.
Its probably in many ways your biggest test so far for that reason.

I remember when we had a similar hold on you (before ironically Conte fecked it up) that I was so confident of a result in the head to heads even in the Mou meltdown season.

Liverpool aren't that bad but similar to then it's a question of will it go to form or will the recent history of the fixture play a part once more?
 
Its probably in many ways your biggest test so far for that reason.

I remember when we had a similar hold on you (before ironically Conte fecked it up) that I was so confident of a result in the head to heads even in the Mou meltdown season.

Liverpool aren't that bad but similar to then it's a question of will it go to form or will the recent history of the fixture play a part once more?

Liverpool look weak (by their standards) all over to me, I think Arsenal's pace will create countless chances so key for them is to be clinical. Jota being out would be a boost as he's the sort that seems to have scored a decent amount v Arsenal down the years for Liverpool and Wolves.
 
If the league wasn't bought and paid for by a state backed club, I'd start to believe that we're in a title race.
 
If the league wasn't bought and paid for by a state backed club, I'd start to believe that we're in a title race.
I think you’ll turn us over next week. Martinelli vs Trent is going to be painful to watch for Liverpool fans.
 
I think you’ll turn us over next week. Martinelli vs Trent is going to be painful to watch for Liverpool fans.

You forget, you're playing Charity FC, we kickstarted Ten Hag's season. I I imagine we'll do the same for Klopp.
 
It took him 3 years to get to this point with a lack of pressure almost no other manager in the world at a top club would have had. It would also be a lie to say almost anybody outside the club thought he'd be a success after so many dips in form and patchy performances

Yes, it's great what he is doing now but it was never 'obvious' even before this season started

Whatever you need to tell yourself
 
This is why we play a highline. Because its how we get results. Tell me how its better to have 35% of the ball and be waiting to attack, rather than owning the ball and dictating the game at your own terms?

People will point to the United game, but Partey didn't play that game, and fact is not every game will break in your favour. We did enough to get a result at Old Trafford, but the final execution just wasnt there. Plus you also need to acknowledge other teams have their own qualities and sometimes you will concede goals for this reason. But we dusted ourselves off following the 3-1 loss to United, kept playing our highline and since then have gone 3-0 away to Brentford and 3-1 home to Spurs.

This is why I fully support the aggressive highline, because it's expansive and bullies the opposition when executed right. We have the players to play this brand of football, so I couldnt understand 'dropping deeper'. Thats what Gary Neville would do if he was our manager. Its what Southgate does for England.

Everytime the team card is shown it has Xhaka next to Partey, but in reality Partey is the sole pivot and Xhaka occupies the same forward space on the left side as Odegaard does on the right. In simple terms its 4-1-2-3. In possession is 2-5-3.

I can understand fans watching us get forward and seeing all that vacant pace with so many of our players forward & getting excited. But before that counter attack can happen, you need to deal with the fact we have the ball and all these players in your opposition third. Spurs won that penalty from a counter attack, no doubt Gary Neville calls this naive. But do you know what also naive, Spurs Sitting so deep. Allowing Partey to pick his spot with no pressure, or allowing Saka one of many runs at Perisic & Lenglet one of these runs which lead to Lloris fumble. Simple law of averages, the more time Martinelli and Saka get to run at the opposition fullback, the greater our chances are of the next goal.

Were playing Liverpool this week. And guess what, were playing the highline.
 
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This is why we play a highline. Because its how we get results. Tell me how its better to have 35% of the ball and be waiting to attack, rather than owning the ball and dictating the game at your own terms?

People will point to the United game, but Partey didn't play that game, and fact is not every game will break in your favour. We did enough to get a result at Old Trafford, but the final execution just wasnt there. Plus you also need to acknowledge other teams have their own qualities and sometimes you will concede goals for this reason. But we dusted ourselves off following the 3-1 loss to United, kept playing our highline and since then have gone 3-0 away to Brentford and 3-1 home to Spurs.

This is why I fully support the aggressive highline, because it's expansive and bullies the opposition when executed right. We have the players to play this brand of football, so I couldnt understand 'dropping deeper'. Thats what Gary Neville would do if he was our manager. Its what Southgate does for England.

Everytime the team card is shown it has Xhaka next to Partey, but in reality Partey is the sole pivot and Xhaka occupies the same forward space on the left side as Odegaard does on the right. In simple terms its 4-1-2-3. In possession is 2-5-3.

I can understand fans watching us get forward and seeing all that vacant pace with so many of our players forward & getting excited. But before that counter attack can happen, you need to deal with the fact we have the ball and all these players in your opposition third. Spurs won that penalty from a counter attack, no doubt Gary Neville calls this naive. But do you know what also naive, Spurs Sitting so deep. Allowing Partey to pick his spot with no pressure, or allowing Saka one of many runs at Perisic & Lenglet one of these runs which lead to Lloris fumble. Simple law of averages, the more time Martinelli and Saka get to run at the opposition fullback, the greater our chances are of the next goal.

Were playing Liverpool this week. And guess what, were playing the highline.
Agreed 100%. This is our brand of football. To expect a team like Spurs who have so much in attack to not create any chances over 90min is just unrealistic. We will probably always have a brain fart in us, but we seem to have more steel now to overcome it. Our CBs are much more mobile and quick now to play the high line, but yes sometimes we will get caught out.

Partey is so unbelievably good, it's such a shame he probably won't stay fit. I have not been a Xhaka fan for most of his time here, but Partey has unleashed him. In the last season or two, we finally see what Wenger saw in him. He was never a DM or last midfielder as his strengths do not lie in tackling and positional awareness. 2-3 years ago most fans would have been happy to see the back of him and apparently he was very close to joining Roma for about £17mil. Thank God that didn't go through. He has turned his career around here spectacularly and I'm so happy for him.
 
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Xhaka has been magisterial really this season. Hardly a foot wrong for someone who made at least three silly errors per game. Helps that he's technically up there with the best in the league, was always about his mentality and being played in a position he wasn't best suited to.
 
If the league wasn't bought and paid for by a state backed club, I'd start to believe that we're in a title race.

Title Race? Im still Arsenal scarred, I'm still struggling to trust us to get top 4 if we're 8 points clear with 3 games to play!
 
Everytime the team card is shown it has Xhaka next to Partey, but in reality Partey is the sole pivot and Xhaka occupies the same forward space on the left side as Odegaard does on the right.
Yep, this is a pet peeve of mine. Xhaka’s average position was actually higher up the pitch than Odegaard against Spurs. We play 4-3-3.
Spurs won that penalty from a counter attack, no doubt Gary Neville calls this naive. But do you know what also naive, Spurs Sitting so deep. Allowing Partey to pick his spot with no pressure, or allowing Saka one of many runs at Perisic & Lenglet one of these runs which lead to Lloris fumble. Simple law of averages, the more time Martinelli and Saka get to run at the opposition fullback, the greater our chances are of the next goal.
Pundits often conflate “tactics” with dropping deep, something I deeply disagree with. Firstly, that is not always the most effective way of defending. And secondly, negating the opposition is only half of achieving tactical superiority. The other half is figuring out how you will pose the opposition problems.

Conte just seem to be relying on a combination of individual brilliance from his front three and lapses in concentration from us.

To be fair to him, it worked for the penalty and they had a few other moments where their final ball let them down. And they’ve picked up quite a few points this season. But I doubt Spurs will win anything playing the way they do.
 
Pundits often conflate “tactics” with dropping deep, something I deeply disagree with.
Is it possible that this is a very English thing? I haven't noticed this in Germany and it fits well with the (in this forum) often raised criticism of Bundesliga teams playing "without defence", "a suicidal high line" etc.
 
Is it possible that this is a very English thing? I haven't noticed this in Germany and it fits well with the (in this forum) often raised criticism of Bundesliga teams playing "without defence", "a suicidal high line" etc.

It is absolutely a very English thing. See the wretched word "pragmatic" and it's usage?