Arsenal fans in my WhatsApp group chats are becoming insufferable. Saliba is already the greatest CB in prem history.
Can't wait for these cnuts to crash and burn.
Can't wait for these cnuts to crash and burn.
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Which they do, every single time. Normally it happens around November/December, but the World Cup might postpone the meltdown a bit.
Playing a high line against a better team with pacy forwards is what people mean when they say "suicide line". You have to actually be able to dominate the ball or have rapid, high class CBs if you're going to do it, and most German teams aren't near good enough at it to play that tactic in Europe when it's not just another bang average Bundesliga team they're facing. In fact Frankfurt are arguably the most successful German team in Europe in recent years despite being pretty shit - seem to remember they didn't play a suicide line last year, go figure.
I actually do think he's class. Most of their team is not though. Arguably it's him, Partey and Odegaard who are looking like the actual class players and the rest of the team is just "good". Ramsdale, Zinchenko, Jesus, Martinelli, White, Gabriel...these aren't special players.
Football fans happy when football team does well. I for one am shocked Mr Salt.
There will be ups and downs, so you will get your moment, but I would suggest you cheer up son and worry about your own team.
And again.
So obsessed with trying to call English football negative you forgot the Caf was Irish
I forgot that post.
How is the Caf Irish? Isn't United an English club?
Jesus and Saka are special players.
The rest agree, but they're still very good players.
For me Gabriel is the weak link atm.
Owner is Irish as are a large majority of posters.
If you’re going to try and insult the English you’ll have to start getting your facts right!
They'll be fighting for top 4, anything else is an exaggeration. They've started well but have only faced the top 6 twice, one of which they lost.
Admittedly the top 4 battle is looking quite comfortable for them as they have gotten better and Liverpool and Chelsea to a lesser extent have weakened.
Admittedly the top 4 battle is looking quite comfortable for them as they have gotten better and Liverpool and Chelsea to a lesser extent have weakened.
I’d love to see a demographic poll actually, that would be interesting
Gabriel does seem to always have an error in him but IMO because of the way we play there's always a risk of being exposed. And players will panic sometimes. I'm not sure we can ever fully eliminate it as we play such a high line. At least our CBs are quick, mobile and physically imposing now that we can mitigate the risk much better than in the past. Gabriel is only 24yrs old himself so there's still plenty of room for improvement. It just shows you how composed Saliba is at 21 and new to the league, that he looks the more accomplished defender (so far this season).
Artetas Partey quotes are embarrassing, would be cringing if i was an Arsenal fan
It's not an insult to say the English have an interesting view on 'pragmatic" tactics compared to the rest of football!
What exactly do you expect him to say? Do we just pretend he doesn't exist and isn't arguably our most important player? And that the goal he scored today wasn't top drawer?
Nah, arse fans are a special breed. Which will make it all the sweeter when the bubble burstsFootball fans happy when football team does well. I for one am shocked Mr Salt.
There will be ups and downs, so you will get your moment, but I would suggest you cheer up son and worry about your own team.
I would go so far as saying Saka and Jesus are very good players but special, not for me. There's a reason Pep never trusted Jesus and Saka isn't even a top 5 winger in the league, never mind special. To me special is players like Salah, Hazard, Mané, Ronaldo, De Bruyne.
And to call Ramsdale and White very good I can't really agree with. White is so good he's been forced out of his position by Gabriel...himself only really a decent player. I wouldn't say you have any bad players but there's still a lot who are just "good" and nobody would be particularly excited if they were on the market.
I think you're completely overlooking the fact that Saka is only 21yrs old. At 21 Hazard just arrived at Chelsea and Salah was at Basel. Ronaldo, yes, was a prodigy and joined you guys at 18. Not too different from Saka who broke into our team at about the same age. Saka has been one of our few beacons of light in the past 2-3 seasons and has been incredibly consistent for a young player.
And White was forced out of his position by Saliba, not Gabriel. But he has been very very good at RB. Last season Tomiyasu looked our RB for years to come but things have changed. White deserves to stay in the team which shows how good he's been. I'm loving the competition in our fullback positions - Tierney/Zinchenko and White/Tomi are very good options.
Irrelevent about Jesus at City. It's been quite clear so far he is a special player, he's MOTM in most our games. But fair enough I agree in a way, let's see at the end of the season if he can maintain.
Saka is a special player, he impacts every game. But by special to be fair I mean partly for his age. He isn't world class yet, but for his age he's in the right direction for it.
Na rubbish about White. Ask any Arsenal fan they'll tell you he's been our best defender for 2 seasons, although Saliba this year is competing. He's been class all season. He never got pushed anywhere, Tomiyasu was injured so White had to play RB because he's done it before, and why would Mikel change anything when it's currently working very well, it would be daft.
Gabriel only plays over White because he is left footed and Arteta has an obession with left footed CB playing left side, it's as simple as that really.
Ramsdale, fair maybe he's just good but he can go up another level. He's 1vs1 stopping is poor though.
I expect him to not waffle on about everything Parteys "been through",
What did he say?
Shocking stance if you are indeed female
if you consider Odegaard special, then surely Jesus is special too? unless you haven’t watched any arsenal game this season then fair enough
This thread is providing some top tier content. Be sure to stay this active throughout the season, quite a flood of Arsenal newbies, I’m a little puzzled as to why now? Front runners.
I think Odegaard is showing signs of becoming special, I don't think he's there yet. Jesus is still Jesus, talented but streaky. He's just flying right now and at a club of the right level for him.
Yeah top of the table seems to be his level.
I will enjoy the implosion, I'm suspecting post-world cup.
There are a bunch of things to say, since you've gone down the inexplicably idiotic and wrong route of playing him, you just pretend like nothing is going on. Saying "what he's been through, as if he's the victim when he's in all likelihood a rapist, is a fecking joke and washing the incident away because he scored a goal
It took you 3 years to get to a point where you are playing a high line consistently. As teams begin to figure out how to play against Arteta's current system, he will likely need to adapt on occasion.
As will I.
'Been through' could be referencing his injuries as well / instead of what you think the comment meant. Plus the fact his shooting for Arsenal was becoming Meme worthy.
I'm not sure it was waffle, he was asked a direct question about Partey and gave an couple of lines back. Hardly a massive waffle about him.
I'm not going to get into the "likelihood" of the truth of the allegations because we don't know enough about the facts.
I have to trust that the club have decided to back him under the guidance of the police. I believe Arsenal know more about the details of the case than we do. At this stage, no charges have been laid. If that changes and he is charged, then may he rot in hell. And I agree, it is appalling if Arsenal have backed him knowing that. But at this stage the police have advised business as usual. I'm not sure how else we as fans are supposed to treat the matter.
And all Arteta said was he's "been through a lot", hardly painting him as a victim. He also spoke about his injuries - Partey has played a bit over 50% of games in his time with us. He has been out injured a lot.
Nothing to see here yet. Too early to draw any conclusions. They’ve only had two fixtures against teams that could rightly test them properly. The rest of their fixtures have been against midtable or relegation fodder. A very kind start to the season. In their two tough games they’ve been comprehensively beaten in one and been the beneficiaries of a red card in another. I’d wager they’ll fold like a cheap deck of cards as the fixture list gets tougher.
You must not have watched Arsenal much the last few seasons. We have often done poorly against midtable or relegation teams. This Arsenal, where we're actually beating teams we should be beating and losing/dropping points in games we're expected to (ie United at OT), is in stark contrast to what we've seen in the past few seasons.
I agree it is far too early to draw any real conclusions about top 4 or otherwise, as the season is just going to get harder with WC and Europe. Our squad looks bit thin IMO.
But at this stage, what Mikel has achieved is very positive. He has recruited players that suit his style of play, and has been able to sufficiently motivate and organise them. In short, we actually look like we have a plan/process and I have been "Arteta out" in the past. I am delighted that I look to be wrong about him. I never would have dreamed that we'd be top of the table in October and playing some of the best football we've played in years. I know it can all change quickly (another injury to Partey, for instance) but I'm going to enjoy it for now as it's been a long time coming. So we're going to be insufferable for a little bit longer
Most of the games are against middle and lower half table teams. There are 38 games in a season, only 10 are played against opposition 'big 6'.
If you beat Brighton and Brentford and lost to Liverpool and Arsenal you would still have the same points total.
That's a silly take, in my opinion. Most teams can provide a challenge to the top clubs, even if they are midtable. Arsenal have beaten quite respectable Brentford, Crystal Palace and Fulham sides, that have provided stern tests for other of the supposed top six teams. I do agree that the likes of Bournemouth, Leicester, and Aston Villa don't provide much insight, but after 8 games all teams have played a mix bag of opposition, and Arsenal are on top for a reason.
Obviously, I don't think they will stay there, but they have great momentum right now. Will be interesting to see how they cope with a few difficult results or injuries, but I don't see indication that they are going to fold.
Something about being happy for Partey after what he's been through, and a lot of people are suggesting he's referencing the allegations, which would be, I mean wow if that is true, but I actually think he was just referencing Partey's injury problems last season.
The reason I think they will run City closest is that they have clearly got confidence and belief going and are beating the teams you'd expect them to beat 9 times out of 10. I think they will compete against the likes of City and Pool but probably lose. So I expect a mixed record in the big games but that's enough for top 3.
They certainly wouldn't have been 4-0 to City yesterday like us, in my opinion.
They certainly wouldn't have been 4-0 to City yesterday like us, in my opinion.
I'm sure he was talking about his past injuries and his most recent issue while on international duty. The club must have spent weeks being briefed about what to say and how to avoid the other topic. So he'd have to be pretty dumb to drop that in a post game interview.
I still have that 1% hope that there is a lot more to it that the public does not know but in the meantime the situation is a disgusting mess.